REM Product cost collectors and Production version

Hi All,
Can some one pls let me know
What are the product cost collectors in REM and how to create the product cost collectors ?
What is the production version and the difference between production version and controlling version?
Thanks & Regards,
Bujji

Dear Bujji,
A product cost collector is a cost object in Product Cost by Period that collects the periodic actual costs incurred in the production of a material. It can be created in txn KKF6N.
[Product Cosr Collector|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/EN/08/77ba810a1611d3a6b900104b55d538/frameset.htm]
[Product Cost Collectors: Collective Entry for Repetitive Manufacturing |http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/EN/08/77ba810a1611d3a6b900104b55d538/frameset.htm]
A production version determines the various production techniques that can be used to produce a material. It defines the following information:
Alternative BOM for a BOM explosion
Task list type, task list group, and group counter for assignment to task lists
Lot-size restrictions and period of validity
A material can have one or more production versions.
It can be defined in the Material Master (txn MM02) in one of the following views:
MRP 4
Work Scheduling
Costing 1
The costing version is a different issue. It is a costing parameter and is used to save several cost estimates for the same material, with the same costing variant and the same costing date (e.g. in oder to cost the material several times with minor changes without creating new costing variants).
BR,
Antje

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Abolish product cost collector for production order

Dear Experts,
we use for some production order types the product cost collector. Now we plan to abolish them and change the settlement for production order. Which things do we have to pay attention? Do we have to finish our running production orders first or is it possible to change customizing during running production process. Thanks for your hepl!
Best regards
Steffen

Hi Ajay,
thank you for your answer.
We have tested two variants:
1. new order type, so we can process two separate settlements, for orders with PCC and the new orders without PCC. After archiving of all prodorders with pcc, archiving of pcc it should be possible to switch back to old order type.
2. change customizing without finishing existing orders, settlement for existing orders, all orders which already have been processed will be settled by pcc (status pcc usage in order header) We have not be seen any strange system behavior.
We use the pcc collector for different order types in different plants and want to abolish plant by plant. In this time the pcc will still be customized/exists.
Best regards
Steffen

Product cost collector problem

Dear all PP gurus,
Can you please help me in this issue
After creating new cost collectors with the correct production version, how can I delete the present ones from the hierarchy?
Thanks in advance,
narayan

Hi
Check the following thread
Re: Repetative Manufcturing - Product Cost Collector and Production Version
Thanks
Edited by: K Saravana Kumar on Jan 21, 2009 7:55 PM

Rem product cost collector

Hai gurus,
I have one doubt in REM product cost calculation.
1) when I am running PCC for REM I met with following error as - Routing does not match with selection
ID 01.
How to correct the error.
Regards,
sekar chand.

Dear Sekar,
1.While creating product cost collector,use Production version as the controlling level.
2.Check RM01 is the order type and ensure your production version is without any errors.
3.Ensure you have selected rate routing in the task list type in the production version.
4.Check what routing selection id is assigned in MRP parameters in OPPQ and also in the scheduling
parameters in OPU5 for the order type PE.
5,Your routing selection id should be a one which gives the first priority to the rate routing R.
Now check and come back with your further queries.
Regards
Mangalraj.S

Question in Product Cost Collectors

Hi All,
I have one question in Product Cost Collectors.
We are using REM and we have multiple products with same BOM routing. Is it possible to assign several materials to to one Product Cost Collector inorder to reduce number of cost collectors.
For example, for routing we can create a Group and assign serveral materials to a group.
Thanks and Regards
Purushothaman

Hi Purushottam,
In REM, it is required to create it for every material.
Even if material has more than one production version, need to create separate Product Cost Collector.
Some more explanation on Product Cost Collector -
u2022 Object in cost accounting used in Repetitive Manufacturing.
u2022 A separate product cost collector can be created for each production version or material. The collected costs are settled to inventory at the end of the period.
u2022 The functions performed for product cost collector during the period end closing process include :
u2022     Work in process (WIP) caculation
u2022     Variance calculation
u2022     Settlement
u2022 In Repetitive Manufacturing, all costs attributed to the production of a material are collected on a product cost collector and settled periodically (period-based Controlling).
u2022 The product cost collector is settled periodically according to the posting period (for example monthly) .
u2022 For a material , product cost collector is made for each version
u2022 The actual cost collected can be viewed through product cost collector.
Hope it is clear now.
Srini

Product Cost Collectors

Hi,
Can anyone tell me what is exactly product cost collectors and what is the impact on the production orders and cost?
If there is a BOM change, we will just create new production version and new product cost collector. We will not update the standard cost. Is it that the new production orders will pick up the new cost based on the product cost collector? even though the standard cost was not up to date? What will be the impact to the accounting?
Kindly please advise. Thank you.

Hi,
Following link will be useful:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/5f/1faba54aee11d189740000e8322d00/frameset.htm
A few points for reference:
- Product Cost by Period, Product is the main cost object.
- Actual costs can be collected on the PCC
- No settlement rule for a mfg order linked to a PCC
- In PCC, the components in the BOM picks up the price from the material master
- If Std Cost Est is not upto date, then matls in PCC will take existing / old price
- So the FG Preliminary cost estimate will not match with its Std Cost
- Moreover inventory valuation may vary if std cost est is not up to date
- The Valuatin variant specified in the Costing variant actual of the PCC is used to valuate the data confirmed for the mfg order.
- This costing variant results in a temporary prelim cost est for the mfg order. This preliminary cost estimate cannot be saved.
Integration with Mfg Order:-
If you have specified in the order type of your mfg orders that the costs should be collected on a PCC rather than on the mfg order, the system creates a link to the PCC when you create a mfg order for the corresponding combination of characteristics (such as material / plant / production version). The mfg order receives the status PCC (product cost collector). This status prevents costs from being allocated to the manufacturing order.
The above might give you some lead.
Raj

Product Cost Collector

Dear All,
I have four different prod. version of a single material and i am using product cost collector as Repetitive manufacturing is there.
so i make 4 product cost collectors and run preliminary cost estimates for all these versions. and also i have run standard cost estimates for one version (001)to settle standard cost on material. So whenever i run kkbc_pko report for planned vs actual cost analysis then if in actual i am using version 004 for PRODUCTION, THEN TARGET COST COMES FROM VERSION 001 (FROM STANDARD COSTING RUN ) AND ACTUAL FROM VERSION 004. which arises so many variances.
actually i want to have target cost from same version and also actual cost from same version so that i can see actual variance.
How is it possible.

Dear Shoaib,
Plz Refer the below link
[Standard cost estimate run with more than one PV;
Hope the above helps you
Regards
kumar

Transfer of Costs in Product Cost Collector to COPA

Dear Experts,
Please can you advise me on this current issue I'm having. Below is a description of problem:
Customer is currently using report designed in COPA (KE30) to derive P&L report for using Plant as a characteristic.
This was being done at a time when Product Costing functionality was not being used
All costs (administrative, sales and production costs) were being collected in cost centers
At end of month assessment of cost center values to COPA is executed (KEU5)
Customer is then able to derive P&L report per Plant characteristic
However with implementation of Product Costing, all Production related costs are captured in Product Cost Collectors and not Cost Center
Hence we have no way of assessing or transferring total production costs from Product Cost Collector to CO-PA
We have tried to configure FI/MM PA transfer structure (KEI1) and default account assignment (OKB9) for automatic transfer of costs on goods receipt/issue, however this is not working because the product cost collector is used as the default account assignment for the transactions
So far only material cost valuation of sales/billed materials are possible (which does not address concern)
As a result we have a gap and customer is unable to derive P&L by Plant from CO-PA.
Can you advise if there is a way out, in order to have all Production Cost transferred to CO-PA.
Thanks,
Ola.

Hi Ola
Your Cost centers would be categorized as below
1. MFG Cost Centers (In Plant)
2. Service Cost Centers (In Plant)
3. Few Cost centers (outside plant) Eg: Sales, Marketing, Sales offices etc
At period end
1. Allocate the Costs from SER CC to MFG CC using Distribution / Assessment cycle.
This will make SER CC as zero
2. Calculate actual activity price in MFG CC (KSS2 / KSII)
3. After this, do revaluation of PCC using CON2.. This will make balance in MFG CC as zero
4. Allow the Variances to be updated to COPA by ticking the "Variances to Costing based COPA" in your settlement profile
5. In short, what remains for you to allocate to COPA is the 3rd category of CC.. i.e. you should allocate those CC to COPA whose cost is not included in the cost of product using COPC module
Br. Ajay M

Target costs for product cost collector

hi,
can anyone tell me when are the target costs updated for product cost collector. it is after we post actual costs or after we calculate variance.
Thanks

Hi Elaine,
Thankyou very much for the Information. In our case when we create new product cost collector and cost it and post actual costs to it, system is showing target costs on the product cost collector even before variance calculation but for product cost collectors which are existing from long time system is not showing target costs after we post actual costs. we have created new cost component structure recently and its active from april 1. does this have any impact on the target costs. Please let me know if you have any idea on this.
Thanks,

Profit center in Product cost collector

Hi,
We need to change the profit center in the product cost collector after the actual postings were made. SAP does not allow to change the profit center. So any other work around solution for this issue? Can somebody help me with this?
Thanks & Regards,
Raghava

Hi Bhuvaneswari,
We are having a situation,
The issue is to change the profit center for the product collector after the actual postings were made. Now the big problem is there is no PA transfer structure defined to execute the settlement for these product cost collectors and then change the profit center. Can you give some work around solution for this? And also what about the postings made previously.
To give more insight,
In the order type, Settlement profile is maintained
In the Settlement profile, Allocation structure is maintained
How do you link the settlement profile / allocation structure to the PA transfer structure?
I can not settle the order (Product cost collector) as there is no PA transfer structure
Thanks & Regards,
Raghava

Error while creating product cost collector in REM ?

HI, all SAP expert,
I have to run repetitive manufacturing .
I create work center of category production line and use in rate routing of semifinished material.
In mm02 -- mrp 4 view of semifinished material , i select rem profile , production version.
Now I create product cost collector ( t-code kkf6n) for semi. material by giving order type (yrem), production version after enter it shows error
Error in number management (notify your system administrator)
in help it shows
Error in number management (notify your system administrator)
Message no. KO162
Diagnosis
A system error occurred in the number management.
Procedure
Please contact your systems analyst or the SAP hotline.
Edited by: Nitin Nerkar on Sep 30, 2009 12:16 PM

Dear Nitin,
Check whether is the number range maintained properly for the order type RM01,check the config setting in T Code
KOT2_PKOSA.
This is related to CO Module.
Check and revert back.
Regards
Mangalraj.S

Use of Product cost collector in REM

Hi All,
I am new to PP module, I got some doubts when working on costing of the product.
1. In REM scenario why do we need an extra step of creating product cost collector ??
2. when a product is produced will the prod cost collector is used for both debiting(raw and semi) and crediting(finished prod) ?

Dear Reddy,
1.Product cost collector is the cost collecting object for a period based production or in a REM - repetitive manufacturing
scenario.
2.Without having any product cost collector you cannot carryout production confirmation(assembly backflush) for a product.
3.So for all the products for which production confirmation will be declared requires a individual product cost collector.
4.Prior to this you require a production version for the material.
5.Production version and a product cost collector is also the master data for a REM scenario.
Now check and revert back.
Regards
Mangalraj.S

Automatic product cost collector in REM

Hi,
Could someone please let me know if there exists any functional module / BAPI to create product cost collector auomatically in background ?
Many thanks
Regards
Seshu

Hi Satish,
Thanks for the response,
I have come across a functional module KK_F_PKOSA_CREATE which creates product cost collector.
Have you / someone in the forum come across this functional module ?
Also please let me know if we can schedule KKF6M in background for all REM materials and plants to create product cost collector ?
Look forward for the response
Thanks
Regards
Seshu

How to maintain One product cost collector for multiple materials and configuration setting

Hi experts,
my requirement is that i want to maintain one product cost collector for multiple materials ans also i want to know the configuration setting for the same.
I have used KKF6N but it is not working in my case. I went through KKF6M also but there i found multiple cost collectors.
please guide me in the same.
Thanks in advance.

Hi Shripad,
you cannot assign same Product cost collector to different material.
Because you creating cost collector for material combination of material /production version,material /Bom Routing.
so please create individual cost collector for every material.
if you have any query kindly revert back.
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Thanks & Regards
Sandeep Kumar Praharaj

Standar cost and product cost collector not updating the new price

Hi,
Created Standard cost estimate for one FG product and runned the product cost collector. Based on that consumption delivery everthing is made. Later on the work center and activity type changed in routing. Now i am trying to run the standard cost with new activity price (due to work center change) for the current period, system is showing only the previous rate(previous period) and it is not updating the new price becuase of already we have created the product cost collector.
Can any one give the suggestion for how to update the new price in standard cost as well as new price updation in product cost collector.
govind.

Hi
1. If the original cost estimate was run in the current month - Then you cant re-release cost estimate unless you reverse it from CKR1
If the cost estimate was of previous months - then you can definetely release it again
2. In cost collector, you need to manually cost it again using the Preliminary costing feature... Your cost coll will then show 2 cost estimates i.e. One from Original date to current date-1, and 2nd from Current date to 31.12.9999
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