Reorganizing Keywords in Bridge

My list of keywords has has become rather lengthy.  I carried out an extensive reorganization using an improved hierarchical structure.
When I now open an image whose keywords were added before my reorganzation, the orginal structure is shown italicised and the new structure, although displayed, shows no ticked boxes.
Above is an example showing the keywords "bracken" and "sream" with the italicised old versions ticked, whereas the newly structured keywords and not ticked.
Is there a way around this issue as I imagine I may carry out further reorganizations to cater for future eventualities?

Something strange is going one because when you make an italic keyword persistent it should show in the list and all other files with the same keyword should show with this keyword selected in the persistent list like Curt already stated.
Try a restart of Bridge and maybe even a reset of preferences, maybe this will clear things up.
And maybe a screenshot of a part of your keywords list with some persistent and italic may also help?

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    You asked....
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    While that sounds like software techno babble, a point emerges.
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    1. Create a new UNIQUE keyword. I suggest capital "AAAA" (no quotes) since this places the keyword at the very top of your keywords.
    2. Do a Find with the keyword of interest. (typically one of the italic keywords that appear but choose the keyword in your Keyword Library and Not the italic keyword)
    3. Once the files are found, check the keyword in the Filter panel ON THE LEFT side of the Bridge screen where the keyword lists appear. (your Keyword Library is the panel on the right of the screen)
    4. Select ALL in the browser window.
    5. On the right side of the screen in the Keyword Library apply "AAAA" (or unique keyword of your choice) to the selected files. (no quotes) WAIT!.... for Bridge to COMPLETELY finish writing the metadata. (thousands of files can take some time, just watch the lower left progress indicator carefully!!!! and if you have tens of thousands consider using this technique to individual folders rather than entire root directories BE WISE!.... too many files can run Bridge out of memory and create a new problem)
    6. On the left side of the screen in the Filter keyword lists panel, check AAAA.
    7. On the right side of the screen in the keywords library panel navigate to where you would prefer to have the duplicate keyword located just so you know where it is.... Do NOT apply.
    8. On the right side of the screen where the italic duplicate keyword appears (alphabetically as it works out) uncheck the duplicate italic keyword and WAIT for bridge to COMPLETELY finish erasing the italic keyword.
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    What you have done is made a unique selection based a unique find and applied the unique keyword AAAA and have instructed Bridge to show all files within the unique search that NOW have the keyword AAAA and have erased the keyword that you used to do a Find, ie, the duplicate. (you will see that the unique word you used to do the Find will now be italic and "0" in the Filter keywords lists on the left side of the screen.
    All the photos will remain selected because they are now identified by AAAA.
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    10. Check the keyword and apply the keyword from the place where you want it (step 7) and WAIT for Bridge to COMPLETELY finish writing the metadata keyword. (the keyword lists on the left will no longer be italic and will be the exact number of files you selected)
    11. IMPORTANT!!!!!...... now uncheck AAAA in the keyword library to remove AAAA from the Filter keyword lists on the left. YOU MUST DO THIS AND NOT FORGET.
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    Believe it or not, you are done!
    You have now removed the italic keyword on the right permanently.
    Oddly enough, you won't see the italic keyword on the right go away, why is that you ask?
    The italic duplicate keyword you see is in Ram and will not go away until you Quit and ReLaunch Bridge.
    Like magic, the duplicate italic keyword has vanished.
    You must repeat this technique for EVERY file that has a duplicate keyword whether you created it or not otherwise the duplicate italic keyword will once again reappear.
    I VERY STRONGLY SUGGEST.... that you repeat these steps For ONE duplicate keyword Find at a time, in fact I cannot suggest this strongly enough. One Keyword At A Time.
    While you can use this technique for more than one keyword at a time, you will only cause more work as you go through this process.
    Sound complicated?..... its not..... do this once or twice and see that it is easier done than said.
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    I have more than a million files keyworded and had to use this technique myself. (I devised this technique out of pure necessity and if followed and understood.... it works perfectly)

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    I've been doing other stuff, so I'm not sure I've been in Bridge where I'd have noticed the problem in the last week or so, which is about how long I've had all the new installs up and running... 
    So, it's a brute force "fix", but I opened Bridge and dithe "reset your preferences" thing.  Then immediately un-installed all the Photoshop stuff and re-installed all the Photoshop stuff.  When I restarted Bridge I pointed the cache at a different partition......
    I have NO idea WHICH thing fixed it, but no more phantom folders...  Curt, your idea about workflow finally got me thinking WHY was I only seeing recent folders as phantoms rather than ALL the ones I'd fiddled with...  And the ones I WAS seeing were all recent - in the last week or so.  So WHY it'd make any difference I don't know, but it appears to be happy again.  I'll try fiddling with stuff in Lightroom, make sure no new phantom folders show up, then if it's good I"ll point things back to the "cache" partition...
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  • Tags / Keywords PSE6 -- Bridge CS3 how???

    Hello,
    sorry to cause inconvenience to you but i can´t find an answer to my question here in the forum.
    I read a lot of similar threads, but no one answerd my problem BridgeCS3 <-> PSE6.
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    There was a post some time ago that I will try to recall - hopefully not too inaccurately. I have never used PSE so don't really know what you are trying to do.
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    I was using Bridge some more after my post yesterday, and I was seeing that with PSE7, both Albums and Keyword items seem more readily accessible regardless of location of the items (photo files) because there isn't an extensive file system search required since the DB provides a quick search (assuming first-searches and no pre-existing caching in Bridge).
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    What can be a little frustrating about any browser-persisted informaton (such as that for Collections) is to not find anything in the docs about how to ensure one gets a good backup of that info. PSE7 does a great job of providing a feature to do just that. Recall this is one thing I really liked about PSE7 when I was unaware of the benefits of Bridge's "minimalist db" approach (where a "db" in Bridge is anything persisted by itself such as Collections).
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