Reversal process of return excise document

Dear all,
My user has created and posted a return excise invoice.
On posting it has created an excise invoice number and an accounting number.
Now it is noticed that while processing the return excise he had manually inputed some wrong values manually.
So he cancelled the internal document number through J1IS.
But the return excise invoice is not reversed.
So can anyone let me know in details how to reverse the return excise so that he can create another return excise invoice???
Its urgent so please help.
Regards,
Indranil

Hi,
in ECC6.0 Excise Invoice created in j1is is reversed / cancelled in J1IS only ( Shift+f6) , ask your FI consultant to check the Acc Document entry once is canceled / reversed thru J1IS.
Rgds,
Vikas

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One PO (Original -for Receipt of Material)-Created in name of company A
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Dear Rams,
I hope it is possible
To do that follow this, I collected from this forum
Follow the same process like return sales, once u get the billing doc, go to J1IH, create with ref to the billing doc.
the excise valuess will be reversed.
Note:
To give customer credit, choose Additional excise so that you will have the option of Modvat Account Selection at the bottom screen. Choose whichever account you want to be adjusted and proceed.
Similarly, for debiting cenvat entries, choose Other Adjustment and here again, you have the option as to which book account the amounts should be debited. Choose the appropriate one from Modvat Account Selection tab and proceed.
If you are not sure and clear on the above explanation, please sit with FI consultants and proceed.
I hope this will help you,
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Murali.
Edited by: Murali Mohan.Tallapaneni on Nov 4, 2008 9:20 AM

Excise Documents in case of Return Process

Hello All,
I am following the below process for Return to Depot from customer, please correct me if I am wrong;
1) Create Return Order (RE)
2) Create Return Delivery and PGI
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4) Excise Invoice at Depot (J1IG - for the material document generated)
5) Create Billing Document
Now for Plant to Depot Returns (Return STO), I am following this process;
A) Create STO with Return Indicator (ME21N)
B) Create outbound Delivery document (VL10B)
C) Create Goods Receipt (MIGO - Mvt Type 161)
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The following questions arise;
1) Is the above process that I am following correct?
2) When and how should I create excise documents for the Plant to Depot Return
3) In the first case, I have only updated RG23D with J1IG, Should I also do a J1IJ? if so is it for which delivery documnet, created during case 2) or for the one in case B)?
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The Option widely used is as under:
Incase of Return Sales Order:
T.Code for copy control: VTAF
Source Document: F2
Target Document: RE
Item category REN
Considering the above settings are done:
Create return sales order RE (with Reference to Billing Document) & the data will be copied as it is in Return Sales Order - RE. For Eg: here you require to change to quantity from 10 to 2, as you want to take back into Inventory of only 2.
Incase of Return Delivery:
T.Code for copy control: VTLA
Source Document: RE
Target Document: LR
Item category REN
Considering the above settings are done:
Create Return Delivery through T.Code VL01N & do PGR (Post Goods Receipt). This will add the stock to blocked stock. This will take care of Inventory.
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T.Code for copy control: VTFA
Source Document: RE
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First in VA02, remove the Billing Block in Return Sales Order - RE & save the document. Now in T.Code: VF01, enter Return Sales Order Number & select the appropriate Billing Type (Credit Memo) & Enter& Save. This will create Credit Memo.
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Sales return - Excise invoice from depot

Dear all,
We are having a sales return scenario in depot which we are executing in following way.
1) Return sales order 2) Delivery against sales order 3) PGR 4) Credit memo 5) Capture of excise invoice in J1IG against the material document posted in PGR with reference to original excise invoice.
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Excise is captured at diffrent stage and vat at diffrent stage
U need to creat Returnes PO (note returns PO should have tax code of bed ecc and hecc and vat
do GR MIGO
J1IS hear only Excise partwill be returned and ther is no chance to reverce ur vat or cst
then u need to pass credit memo MIRO agaist returns PO at this stage ur vat amount will be revirsed.
Very imp , In PO ur excise value should be same as u are going to reverse in J1IS.
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Am not much familiar with CIN process hence am asking the clarification of Why J1IS is not and Why j1IH is for customer returns Excise invoice creation kindly clarify and also have read in some threads which suggested that J1IH is for customer returns.
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Cenvat Suspense Account Dr.
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In J1IH "Additional Excise" is for incoming Excise Invoice(Returns from customer) and "Other adj." is for Outgoing Excise Invoice.
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Dear Rams,
I hope it is possible
To do that follow this, I collected from this forum
Follow the same process like return sales, once u get the billing doc, go to J1IH, create with ref to the billing doc.
the excise valuess will be reversed.
Note:
To give customer credit, choose Additional excise so that you will have the option of Modvat Account Selection at the bottom screen. Choose whichever account you want to be adjusted and proceed.
Similarly, for debiting cenvat entries, choose Other Adjustment and here again, you have the option as to which book account the amounts should be debited. Choose the appropriate one from Modvat Account Selection tab and proceed.
If you are not sure and clear on the above explanation, please sit with FI consultants and proceed.
I hope this will help you,
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Murali.
Edited by: Murali Mohan.Tallapaneni on Nov 4, 2008 9:20 AM

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User has created a normal invoice with certain finished goods. Due to some reasons he cancelled this invoice with T code VF11. And then he tried to create a returns order wrt original invoice and created returns sales document without any error.
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> My original billing document is already cancelled and when copying from F2 to RE, want an error message to be poped up saying billing document already cancelled, you cannot create a returns sales order.
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In other words, you will create return order when there is problem with material. So, for that you have to cancel the billing doc. which you already have done.
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Process for Returns the goods to vendor

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Can any body please guide me in the below Returns process:
1) Goods returned from the customer and placed in to returns storage loaction, then to perform the returns process to vendor for the goods which are at returns S Loc.
2) Goods recieved from vendor and performed Quality check and found goods are in damage condition then posted to blocked stock to take the decession about the stock.Decession has been made to return ths stock to vendor then the Stock from Blocked Stock has to be returned to vendor.
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Point No 1 -
You can post the delivery with reference to PO in MIGO transaction using Mvt type - 122
OR can create PO with return tick with Mvt type - 161.
If you choose to post W.R.T PO,You can post substitute delivery W.R.T. return delivery document by using reverse posting with Mvt type - 123.
Point No 2 -
Here now you have posted the stock into block stock.
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you can reverse the rweturn delivery doc to post the substitute delivery again into block stock.Finally move the stock to unrestricted using 105.
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Question: How to assign number ranges to the Official Excise Document Numbe

Question: How to assign number ranges to the Official Excise Document Number
Field name is: EXNUM, table name: J_1IEXCHDR
SAP CIN
Dear expert,
I will briefly explain the scenario:
I have created return po.
Process MIGO w.r.t. return PO- Material document generated.
Process: J1IS - excise invoice other movement create.
--> Now I want to print the document --> I m trying with T-code J1IP --> entered all the required data --. Used out put type - J1I0
But I am not getting the list of document for printing and even print is not coming.
There is no print document getting for a printing.
When I checked in an above said table (mentioned in question), I found that for transaction type OTHR, there is no number ranges defined for official document no.
And because of this reason I m not getting any document in the print.
Can you Pl extend Ur help and Pl suggest me where (path or transaction) the number ranges can be maintained for the official excise document No.
Thanking you all n advance and expecting your earliest response.
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om

Dear Friend,
J_1IEXCHDR this table stores the all the excise documents created while excise transactions are done ,
for that Goto j1i9 or SNRO in these transaction you maintiane the number ranges for the
J_1IPLA2     PLA part II number range object
J_1IRG1     RG1 Number range object
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