Reverse Telecine error

Does any one know what an "Error-43" means in the reverse telecine log? I am not able to batch reverse or single clip reverse any of my clips. The process stops 3/4 of the way through, I have tried many different clips and settings but keep getting error -43 in the log....?

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Reverse Telecine NTSC error

I'm tring to reverse telecine video files with a 29.97 fps and am getting an error that reads "this movie file does not have an NTSC frame rate."
they are NTSC, so I don't understand what I need to do.

Probably too late but...
Did you try opening the files in QuickTime and check the properties (Cmd-I) to ensure they are in fact NTSC files w/correct frame rate? Just a shot in the dark.
Ric

Reverse Telecine 24fps Error?!?

Hi,
We've troubleshot this all ways possible, it seems, so here goes:
Our show is downconverting HD to 29.97; we're editing in 23.98 sequences. The other assistant has been able to successfully Reverse Telecine the footage (which we've batch-captured from a DVCam deck) from 29.97 to 23.98. On my system, however, when I choose the Reverse Telecine option in FCP 5.1.1, the footage ends up as 24 fps. IE, in the Video Rate column, it shows up as 24 fps.
It doesn't matter which system the footage has been captured on; on his system, if he's done the RT, then it shows up correctly as 23.98. If I RT on my system, it shows up as 24. (And any footage which he has RTed on his system correctly imports onto my system at 23.98.)
Any ideas?
We've played around with (seemingly) all the sequence/capture presets and nothing affects the above result. Otherwise, all our settings - including Cinema Tools - are set the same.
Any advice would be most helpful.
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Hi,
Thanks for your replies. We just discovered it today - there's a hidden preference in Cinema Tools where you can choose to conform to 24 or 23.98 fps; this preference is not available in Final Cut.
What you have to do is: in Cinema Tools, go to File > Open Clip, which will bring up a clip and options for Reverse-Telecine and Conform. Then, if you click on the Conform option, the next window will give you the ability to change the fps for conforming. Change to 23.98. Even if you Cancel without RTing the clip, the option will remain as whichever you selected. Then close and reopen Cinema Tools and you can Batch RT from Cinema Tools or FCP correctly.
Note that if you change the fps in the Rev Telecine option previous, the changed fps will not remain as default. Also note that you have to capture a clip (or have a movie file somewhere on the drive) in order to be able to access these preferences.
Much grief from some lousy program design.
Thanks for the help.
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Reverse Telecine and Temporal Compression

I'm currently editing on a FCP (5.1.4) 23.97fps timeline and have some secondary footage from a canon HV20 that I'd like to use as well. It's already captured, and I want to use a reverse telecine transfer so I can import it to my timeline conformed at the proper rate.
I tried using cinema tools (3) to perform this; first by importing just one clip, but the "rev telecine..." button couldn't be selected, so I tried to batch reverse telecine the clip but was given the error message 'temporal compression'.
I am sure that the footage captured on the HV20 was with the 24 option, so I'm not sure why I'm having and issue. Any advice would be appreciated. The more step-by-step the better.
Thanks!

With Final Cut 5 you need to use Cinema tools after converting every clip to Apple Intermediate Codec (AIC). This is a manual process that you must repeat for each clip. Each time you start and stop the HV20 recording you get a separate clip so if you did a lot of starting and stopping you'll be busy for a while. I did this process as an exercise more than a year ago and was successful but I don't recall the details. I did a Google search for "reverse telecine HV20" and found this article http://www.hdforindies.com/2007/07/working-with-24p-from-canon-hv20.html
I think I found my method on the Canon HV20 forum http://dvinfo.net/conf/canon-vixia-hv40-hv30-hv20-hv10/ back then.
I'm not sure but I think you may need to recapture your footage using the 60i setting in Final Cut. I don't know what Final Cut does to 60i footage captured using the 23.98 setting. You might just be able to change the setting to 29.97 on the captured clips. Worth a try maybe.
Good luck.

Reverse telecine problems with 24pA setting

Just bought a sony v1u and shot with the 24pA setting. i brought it into FCP with the 1080i60 Easy Setup. Dragged the source file into cinematools to get the reverse telecine and it is grayed out. When i tried a batch reverse telecine, it said something about temporal compression and error. any ideas?

I don't believe you can use Cinema Tools to Reverse Telecine HDV material...
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Bizarre Reverse Telecine issue is driving me insane

OK, so I've got this 200G movie in uncompressed 10-bit 4:2:2 to reverse telecine using Compressor 2.3 (my copy of FCS2 isn't here yet, so that isn't the issue). No cadence breaks or other issues AFAICT. This is an actual telecine I'm reverse telecine'ing, btw.
Since the file doesn't have timecode burn and starts with a black leader, it's hard to get the precise reverse telecine settings by inspection. So I did what I've done in the past - export the first couple of minutes, starting from frame 1, and trial-and-error to get the right settings for the file (in this case, F1-F2, DD).
After doing that, I apply those settings to the big file, go away for 8 hours (since compressor hogs all the ram, the machine is useless for anything else), and return to find that...
...the file didn't reverse telecine properly - some of the frames are interlaced, and not only that, but it's wrong right from the start. Using the exact same settings, the short clip reverses fine, the long clip has interlace, even on the early frames that are the same as the short clip!
At which point, I'm shaking my head in wonder and then banging it against the wall... it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I've repeated the whole process twice, with the same results.
Any words of wisdom. It goes without saying this was dumped on me with a ridiculously tight deadline.
MacBook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.9)

An update on my progress (hopefully this will help the next person in my situation).
I have found that dividing the job into smaller chunks (about 10 minutes long, 15-16GB) prevents this bizarre problem from happening; it seems to be a bug that only affects larger reverse telecine jobs.
With the smaller chunks, I've found that starting the export from FCP with the first of the two interlaced frames in each group of 5 is the easiest way to go, since it's easy to visually identify, and means that for F1-F2 interlaced telecines, the BC setting will always be the one you need to use. I've also been exporting a short (20 sec) clip with the same start point as each chunk as a sanity check, and so far it's all worked well.
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Hvx200 1080i 24p Footage not Properly Reverse Telecining

So I've got a bunch of footage that we shot using the 1080i 24p setting on the hvx200 which yielded 24-in-60 footage, which normally isn't a problem and the other 2 cameras we were shooting (an hv20 and hg10, both in 24p mode) produce the same kind of files. after batching everything out to compressor to remove the telecine, and convert to 1920x1080 prores, i just discovered that all the HVX footage is true 24p, but didn't remove the pulldown correctly, and most every frame is now interlaced.
I'm trying to figure out if it's a compressor issue, a dvchdpro issue, or a computer/install issue. I've had some QT plug-ins that break the reverse telecine function, but considering the hv20 and hg10 footage converted just fine i don't think it's that.
also, after trying to convert to directly to prores and run through cinema tools to do a manual RT, i don't get the option to RT. and lastly using JES Deinterlacer when i set it up and submit i get a "cadence not found" error. it's also is reading the file as progressive when i first put it in JES.
I've also tried running the RT through final cut directly as some of those old pany cams have RT flags and FCP can handle the RT process internally.
Any thoughts anyone? has anyone ever run 1080i 24p footage through compressor and achieved a true 24p framerate, or do i have an isolated instance here?

so after sleeping on the problem, i took the footage and ran compressed it out to prores422, this time making sure to select a frame rate of 29.97 AND checking the "interlaced" button on the codec page. after batching the footage to make it true 60i, i then ran it through compressor again to remove the pulldown, and everything worked as it should. I think the problem arose from the footage reporting itself as DVCHD PRO 30P instead of 60i, and compressor wasn't seeing any fields and therefor not seeing any cadence

FCS2 Reverse Telecine problem with HG10

I have been using the three fingered salute version (Log and Transfer, followed by Compressor's "reverse telecine") of getting 24P files from my HG10 into FCS2. It's worked well with smaller files (a few GB), but I just tried the technique with two very large video files. The Log and Transfer operation works fine. They're approximately 1 hour each, and are around 50GB in size each. But when I try the reverse telecine approach, Compressor seems to just flat-out die out from under me on both files. No error messages. I looked in Console, but nothing there either. It just stops processing, deletes the partially encoded file, and just sits there.
There was a discussion here about this problem prior to the 6.0.1 update, but nothing since.
Again, this works fine for me on little files (a minute or two in duration).
Is there an alternate way of doing the reverse telecine on these large files? Maybe Cinema Tools?

I have never used Compressor for this as Cinema Tools has been rock solid for me every time.

Reverse telecine but footage too fast

Ola,
Here's my problem:
Captured 24p footage, reverse telecined it to 23.98. looks great, but 30% faster than before. Is there a way to change the speed to the original, either in Cinema Tools or FCP?
A.

I recall reading on here that Cinema Tools does not like reversing any clips larger than 5GBs. Since your 30 minute clip (6GBs DV) went through fine, it may not be the case, however it still could be. 40 minutes is 8GBs and might be too much. I had this same problem and had to perform a work around.
I exported smaller chunks of the big clips via Final Cut Pro as full quality DV movies, brought those into Cinema Tools, reversed them and then brought them back into Final Cut for editing.
That "not enough memory" error has been the bane of my existence and I still haven't figured out what exactly causes it or what the perfect solution is.

Reverse Telecine affecting identical clips different ways

I haven't a clue on how to begin searching for this.
I recently had a problem trying to get my Sony HZ5U 24p footage to true 24p instead of 30. It was causing big confusion in Color, blending frames together. Even though I placed the footage in a 24p sequence, it would just frames in unnecessary spots. And Reverse Telecine wouldn't work on footage imported by HDV - 720p24.
I was able to import to HDV-Apple ProRes 422 1080p24, Reverse Telecine, and add the clips into a HDV- 720p24 sequence to get the resolution I need...
Except there's a problem.
Something isn't working when I reverse telecine.
The clips I imported were all 2:3, two frames of the same then three others that were individual.
I "reversed" two clips which came out to 1:1 (I guess), no frames are duplicated. But a few of the clips I reversed came out to 2:2! There are two frames of the same then two others that are individual.
I'm not sure what is wrong. I didn't import with a different setting, I didn't change anything in Final Cut, I didn't adjust anything in Cinema Tools. I never filmed in a separate format...
I have a consistent segment I have to make each week for a program, and it's done this for the past three weeks. And on one of the clips (either the one with 1:1 or 2:2) after I send back from Color the audio is shifted off a few frames.
Why would Reverse Telecine give me different results in the same operation of the same format of video??

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Reverse telecine and final cut

hi. hope the gurus can help.
we shot a short with dvx 100a. we shot on 24p (NORMAL). I am trying to create a 23.98 workflow for the video. all the footage was captured in DV NTSC, and used cinema tools to Reverse Telecine. here come the issues: how do I know which "capture mode" the DVX uses? also which "Style." I tried different settings, and the strange part is that some settings work for some clips while others work for other clips, even though all clips were captured the same way. when i say worked, i mean some showed obvious "flicker" or "ghosting" and some were fantastic. all this on a 23.98 timeline in FCP.
please help,
thanks
liron

when i look at the counter on the original tape, how
would i be able to tell if it was shot in 24p or any
other settings?
yep, it's not in the manual and i found this one day long ago when i got my dvx just after they were first released: open the lcd and on the bottom towards the lens there is the counter button. with the camera in vtr mode and playing the tape, toggle that counter button and you'll get a wealth of info including what framerate the video was shot with.
as for the reverse telecine, how can one determine
what "capture mode" was used? apple suggests a burned
tc, but i do not have that off the dvx.
dude, as far as a reverse telecine, that is determined by which mode was used to photograph with the camera. with fcp 4 you only use cinema tools for 24p standard video but i understand with the latest version of cinema tools you can use for 24P and 24PA, but i've not tried this.
i'd advise you to do a little research. the fcp production studio has a great appendix on 24p material and also go here http://www.adamwilt.com/24p/index.html and here http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/24p_in_FCPnattress.html
good luck.

Reverse Telecine in Cinema Tools

My 24p fcp project is finished and I need to reverse telecine it to get rid of the ugly interlacing. How do I do this?
I've tried importing the movie into Cinema Tools and it keeps crashing. When I import the whole thing as a single clip (QT Movie), the Reverse Telecine button isn't available.
Also, why can't I import an mpeg-2 clip?
I'm using Cinema Tools 2.2, in case this has something to do with it.
Thanks in advance.

Oh, and Mr. Gilman was saying that there will be interlacing no matter what if it's on DVD or Beta? Why is this?
It's what I was trying to tell you when I said If tape, you need the pulldown anyway. If DVD, the pulldown would be added by the player.
You have to understand where the interlacing is coming from. It is coming from the pulldown inserted to bring the fps from 24 to 30...
Google reveals these Pulldown explanation pages:
http://www.adamwilt.com/24p/#24pRecording
http://home.aol.com/ajaynejr/pulldown.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p
http://www.zerocut.com/tech/pulldown.html
http://www.denecke.com/24pinfo.htm
here's a visual representation of 24P with pulldown added to be recorded on a 29.97 tape (this is how all feature films are broadcast on NTSC)
You can see from this image that two frames BC and CD are interlaced - that is, they are made up of two fields taken from different frames. When a DVD has 24fps material on it, the DVD player automatically inserts this pulldown to bring it up to 30 fps so it can be shown on a regular TV.
Now. I believe your problem may stem from an incorrect field order, but first I want to ask - When you created your export of your movie that you fed into DVDSP to make your DVD, did you try importing it into FCP and playing it back on your TV. Did it look okay then?
Patrick

Reverse Telecine Question (Cinema Tools)

Dear board members,
I have footage that was shot with Panasonic AG-HVX200 in 1080i60 (29.97fps), but with 24p function with a 2:3 pulldown. When I ingest it in FCP through Log and Transfer this footage (for some peculiar reason) shows up as 1080p30. I also need to remove pulldown to make it 24 (23,98) FPS.
My workaround is as follows:
1) I export these files from FCP as DVCPRO HD 1080i60 QT files.
2) then I send these new "masters" to Cinema Tools, where I do Reverse Telecine process.
The results looks fine, but I just want to double-check my settings in Cinema Tools, because the batch for this job contains thousands of clips and there is no room for mistake.
Reverse Telecine in Cinema Tools settings:
Capture Mode:
Field 1 - Field 2
Fields:
AA
File:
New (smaller)
Frames:
Conform to: 23.98 FPS
Standard Upper/Lower: Checked
Thank you very much for your time and (hopefully) helpful comments.
Regards,
Tim

I just did a test yesterday with MXFX software and there is a visible recompression in the resulting file. I compared the same frame (from different clips) processed through Cinema Tools and MXFX and also compared it to the original frame and MXFX clearly does something to the image (recompression or noise reduction, whatever you want to call it). Contacted them about it, they said they will look at it. Anyhow, the result is pretty visible at 200% zoom. Anyhow, that made me decide against MXFX.
Thanks for a suggestion though.

Adding flags to a Panasonic 1200 deck for reverse telecine in post?

I am doing a telecine of some 16mm film. We are dumping it as 720p DVCPRO HD with a rented Panasonic 1200 deck. I did this last time and everything looks great except I had major issues turning my 59.94 source material to 23.98 material [reverse telecine] in post. Is there a settingt on the 1200 deck to tell it to flag the frames as they do with the varicam so I can do a really easy frame excraction within Final Cut Pro or Cinema Tools? Hit me back with any info if you got it ... thanks!!!

Thanks for the clip. That helps a lot.
This confirmed what I thought. You cannot Reverse Telecine something at 59.94. Cinema Tools is designed for footage telecined at 29.97...NTSC. It doesn't recognize 59.94 as NTSC because that is an HD frame rate, not an SD one. Cinema Tools was designed for SD.
For 59.94 footage, what I have beed doing is either just dropping it into a 23.98 timeline and rendering, or using the Nattress Film Converter to get it from 59.94 to 23.98. Both look great...but require timeline rendering.
So what you CAN do is drop all this footage into a 23.98 timeline, render or apply the filter...render and export as a self contained QT Movie. But then you lose valuable TC. Best bet would be to drop it into the timeline and just render.
I put it here for you to see and download if need be:
http://homepage.mac.com/comeback/.Movies/16mmTestCONV.mov
Shane

Reverse Telecine On Finished Edit, Or Only Original Clips?

Can a reverse telecine be performed on a finished edit? (By this, I mean an uncompressed export from FCP). Or can this only be done on the original clips?
I am editing a short shot on S16mm. The negative was telecined, output to miniDV, then captured in FCP using a Panasonic DVX-100.

hello john,
if you work with the material as is (ie 29.97) and create a timeline, then export that and attempt a reverse telecine on it, you will find that cinema tools can't handle it. the cadence of the 3:2 field rhythms will change from clip to clip (unless you are crazy lucky). so you'll end up with some shots looking fine and others incorrectly converted.
best to do all material up front to edit in 23.98 timelines (or stay in 29.97, though this is a less favoured option for me).
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