Roaming between two extreme

with an IPad 1..How to roam between two Apple expreme without loosing connection?
Thanks

See the second message of this thread for instructions on creating a "roaming network":
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2273124?threadID=2273124

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Are you doing L3 mobility?
If so, would configure the voice ssid for the same VLAN on both controllers to see if that works or not.
Of course for mobility group setup, need the mac and IP configured on each contoller in that mobility group.
Ensure that 3.02 is loaded on the 7920 phones.
Would recommend 4.0.217.0 or later for the controller version.
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Hi...
I just bought a Hawking WiFi range extender...a device that acts like a second wireless access point for rooms that are far from your wireless router. It's also known as a repeater. It has the same SSID (network name) as the one set up by the router.
You are supposed to be able to move about the house and you will connect to whichever device has the higher signal strength, transparently, with no hiccups, like moving your cell phone from one cell antenna to another.
The setup works fine with my Dell laptop, but not with my MacBook Pro or my iPad. When I change "zones", the Network locks up. This is repeatable and consistent.
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I've been using a roaming setup in my home for years. The company I work for has building wide WiFi roaming setup with multiple WiFi access points on each floor. At home and at work, I frequently move my MacBook between access points without loosing things like my VPN, Screen Sharing, File Sharing, ssh terminal sessions, etc....
But 3rd party networking hardware has not always been well tested against Apple products. Many times 3rd party networking vendors test against some version of Windows and then ship it. Sometimes the 3rd party vendor offers a firmware update that corrects issues with Apple products.
At home I have Apple Airport Extreme base stations for my roaming setup. At work, the company is using Cisco commercial WiFi access points.
A roaming setup needs to have all WiFi devices on the same network "Subnet". That means a 2nd WiFi base station cannot act as a router, but must be just a bridge on the existing router's subnet (generally that means it cannot be offering DHCP services nor NAT services).
The 2nd WiFi base station must have the same SSID (as you said you setup).
And it must have the same security password using the same encryption algorithm (WPA2 preferred from a security stand point). You did not mention this, but I'll assume you did this as well.

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- Put each base station in bridge mode (unless you need 1 of them to distribute ip addresses).
- Each base station needs to be on a different channel - and make sure they spread apart, like 3 and 11, as opposed to 3 and 4.
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Couple of additional questions. Under your suggestion, what should the settings be under "wireless mode?" Assuming it would be:
802.11n (non-dual)= "create a wireless network"
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The only reason to choose "Extend a wireless network" would be if the two routers were NOT connected by wire.
Also, what about the checkboxes asking "Allow this network to be extended?" for each base station. Should they be checked or unchecked?
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The Linksys router I’ve got in my office room at home is providing poor coverage in my living room. Thus I’ve purchased a WAP300N and connected it by wire to the build-in 4 port switch of my Router (E3000). The set-up is providing a significant improvement in the living room, but… it seems as if the two wireless access points are “competing” over the “clients”.
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Multiple access point configuration: Distinguish transmission signals;
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