Route is not considering in delivery scheduling for Third party order proce

Hi All
Advance thanks for your inputs
We need to consider the route in the delivery scheduling for third party order processing..
Example
i have standard order (document type OR) when i have item cat TAN its considering the route for ariving the material availability date, if it has TAS(third party) then its not considering the route......
But we want to consider the route in deliver scheduling in case of third party order...
kindlly pls advice..
regards
raja

Hi Viven.,
Routes they come under normal order as we deliver the goods,but here in TAS,third party sale we are not delivering the goods,Just there is logical moment i.e MIGO,So i dont think we do routes for TAS
Thanks & Regards
Narayana

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Hi arun,
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Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and,   therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing
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      Sales org, distr chnl, div
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ME52N
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ME57
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Also understand how migo and miro are handled.
The item categories used.
How the company knows of the shipment of goods to the customer.
How returns are handled.
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We have made the necessary setting for the determination of Route and Route Schedule, but unfortunately the route schedule is not getting picked in the Third party order, but it works wonderfully with outbound delivery orders...
Is there any other setting to trigger the RS for 3rd party orders? or is it that SAP doesnt support RS for 3rd party orders as there is no actual delivery happening?
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As, in Third-Party Orders, theres is no Material-Movement (shipping) from Plant; Route Schedule will not be applicable. Customer places an order on to you and you have placed an order to your vendor, who will directly deliver the goods to your customer.
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[Route Schedule|Route schedule]

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Standard SAP third party process - Create SO - Purchase requisition - Create purchase Order.
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this is to inform you that,
this cannot be achieved with standard configuration i think so because if you keep in LOG of incompletion in sales order it will not stop creating PR.
so this is pure development
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Hey babu,
I understand ur problem. First check that you have maintained all the time durations that would be taken into consideration when the sales order will do the scheduling. E.g.
!) GR processing time
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So let me share my experience.
The answer to your question would be NO- Unless someone has really a workaround which I suspect.
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