Running classic environment

Sorry I posted this incorrectly on the bottom of someone else's thread.
I have been given a Powerbook G4 running OX 10.4 I have no discs with it. I would like to be able to run some of my son's games which require classic. Classic was never set up on the computer so I need a classic system folder. I bought OS 9 from ebay thinking that this would solve my problems. I am unable to boot from this cd and can't load it as it requires classic to do that. So I'm back to square one - does anyone know what my options are?
Thanks

The processor is a 1.5GHz Power PC G4 with memory 512.
I use our desktop (which is a PC) and I was over my son playing his games on it (as they always seem to stuff it up). This Mac was given to us by my brother inlaw as he didn't want it anymore (he's a researcher and has upgraded a while ago). He thought it would be good for the kids to watch movies on and play a few games (they are only 3 & 5)as they are fairly indestructable and I have to admit it is nice to use.
The problem is that I sort of feel like a Beta video owner from the 90's with only one row of movies to pick from - some of the games I already had are good for Mac too but require the classic environment. I have ordered a few others that are OS X specific but generally it seems to be only the more expensive ones and a limited selection - I'm new to Mac so I could be wrong.
So back to my problem, I did buy a OS 9 install disc off ebay but it won't boot etc so it is no use to me. If someone could tell me what would work I'd happily look for it but I already paid $50 for the OS 9 with not much luck.

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With the amount of information you've provided it's impossible to offer a potential solution. We can't see your computer so we need to know some details of your problem and setup, i.e.:
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what system version are you running?
what fixes have you tried?
where is you library located?
did you apply any updates or upgrades just prior to the problem occurring?
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