Scene thumbnails incorrect

I am using Premiere Elements 9. I use the auto-analyzer to analyze my footage. It detects all of the scenes, and in the Media panel I am able to expand the source to see each individual scene which I can then add to the timeline if I wish. This is great stuff, but the trouble is that the thumbnail picture on each scene bears no resemblance to what is actually in the scene. The thumbnail is actually a frame from several scenes earlier. This is most annoying and I am wondering if there is any way of getting the thumbnails correct. Once I have dragged all thumbnails scenes to the timeline I can find the one I want by right clicking the scene in the timeline and selecting "Reveal in Media". However, the thumbnail should be correct in the first place. Another thing that seems wrong in the media panel are the mark in and mark out times.

I spent quite a while on the phone to Adobe support about this issue. It seems to be some sort of corruption with my user account to do with the Adobe files in the AppData\Roaming folder. Creating a new user account fixed the problem for one project and partly fixed it for another. Back in the original user account I am now re-running the auto-analyzer on the clips still showing the wrong scene thumbnails. If that does not work I will uninstall and re-install Premiere Elements. Anyway, it does NOT seem to be a bug in PE9 directly.

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forbemag
I do not think that I am completely focused into this completely, so let us see if the following is going to help.
You are going to need a base for your button. When you mention "image" button, I am assuming that you are using that term to differentiate between a text button and a thumbnail type button.
The menus (main and scene) take their origin in .psd files on the hard drive and strict nomenclature and structure for Layers Palatte. And, the buttons on the menus trace back to the menu markers on the Timeline, main menu marker and order of placement of scene markers. The scene thumbnail will only appear when there is a scene marker on the Timeline to which it.
In view of all that
Where have you already inserted this "image (button)"...into the Layers Palette of a Photoshop document or other? Is this "image (button)" in a structured Layer Group in the Layers Palette with sublayer groups, text layers, graphic/background layer"?
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ATR
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Most Main Menu pages come with Play All button, Scene Selection button, and some with Main Menu or Bonus Movie button. Most are text type buttons, fewer are thumbnail type buttons for this Main Menu. You see the thumbnail type buttons in the Scene Selection Page, and typically the maximum number there is about 6, may goes to 8 in some rare instances.
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Are your photos sized properly for a NTSC or PAL DV Standard or Widescreen project? Are you heading for NTSC or PAL DVD-VIDEO Standard or Widescreen? Are you considering Blu-ray disc format on Blu-ray disc in this regard for your Premiere Elements project.
How many albums do you envision in each of your planned DVD discs. I suspect the number is going to be in excess of 6 or 8. Here some of the considerations might be:
…switch the names of the .psd files for the main and scene menu (just the names) so that you can take advantage of the larger number of scene buttons on an already designed Scene Menu. The Timeline markers are Main Menu Markers in this instance, no Scene Markers. Result: One page Main Menu with thumbnails there displaying the first photo in each album.
…editing the .psd file for a DVD Template to add more buttons to the design. That requires strict adherence to requirements for doing that, including editing with Photoshop CS and later or a version of Photoshop Elements that will open the Layer Groups of the .psd so that you can get at the Folders and Files that you need to modify/duplicate and the like.
If you wanted text buttons instead of thumbnail buttons, you could look at a DVD Menu such as Faux Widescreen Main Menu Page and customizing that.
Not sure if long trip descriptions (text) would be feasible. I can offer a how to for creating a page for information before the main menu (like those FBI notices) if you thought that might be appropriate for any overview trip descriptions per disk. Lots of details, Lots of choices, but often with limitations and special considerations if you are restricted to what comes as is with the program.
Please review the above and then we could fine tune with more specifics.
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Rick
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a. main menu markers on the Timeline to place main menu buttons
b. scene menu markers on the Timeline to place scene menu buttons.
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Let us try this. Go back to my blog posts and see if the introduction in any of them describes what you want to do.
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Based on all that I will see if I can customize something beyond which I have already written about.
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ATR
Note: If all your scene markers appear to have similar scenes, make sure you have put a few frames distance between menu makers.
Also, in the Marker's dialog, use the Offset to move the view a little. This will not affect the position of the marker on the Timeline, just the
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We can get rid of thumbnails but it will take us into the theme's psd editing in Photoshop CS or higher or depending on the circumstances
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Je suis sous W8.1 avec un PC récent de moins d'un an (64 bits) ; Core 2,4 GHz Intel Core i7 - NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M
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In view of all that
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Let me give you an example
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If I am getting closer to what you seek, then please further clarify the DVD navigational envisioned scheme.
Thanks.
ATR
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Hey, I was struggling with the same thing too. In case you haven't figured it out yet and for others who come across this post with the same question, here some steps I figured out that worked for me.
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http://www.thebootleggersband.com/temp/before.jpg
http://www.thebootleggersband.com/temp/after.jpg

I guess sometimes you simply have to figure it out for yourself. If anyone else is interested in the answer, apparently size does matter.
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