SCSI drive recognition

I recently added drives to my G4 and moved the PCI SCSI card to a new slot. After rebooting the system now registers my 40G SCSI drive as new hardware and I cant seem to figure out how to save the info on the disk. I even moved it back to the original PCI slot, but no go! I really need to get the data off this disk, what should I do?
G4 Gigabit Ethernet Mac OS X (10.4.8)

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PLZZZZ HELP ME!!!!!!! PLZZZ HELP!!!!!

Found it set your boot order to bootable add in card first in the screen shown here courtesy of HardOCP : http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTA4MjM1MDg3NWxrOFNyWHJRcTNfMl8yNl9sLmdpZg==
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Have an Apple PowerMac 6000 series minitower at work. It runs a program called 4D, that is a database we use to catalog images. Since I've been with the company, there has been no backup of the database, as an external scsi drive had died and never been replaced.
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However, the drive was still mounted when I tried to repartition and it ended up causing an error. I tried rebooting, and the drive wasn't showing on the desktop, but it still wouldn't repartition. Not knowing was else to do, I low level formatted the drive, told it to write zeros to it, and then create the two partitions. Given I was doing all this on a Saturday and didn't know how long it would take, I left it running in the background to check on Monday.
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Hi, merkman2001 -
I would use the Apple utility Drive Setup (which comes with a normal OS 8.1 install) to initialize and partition the drive, rather than Norton or any other third-party utility.
As far as the format type goes, select Mac OS Extended when asked.
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This means that the System Folder on the internal drive can be dragged to the icon of the external drive and dropped into it. Ditto any/all additional folders, those containing the programs and documents.
You should be able to successfully do a test boot using the freshly-copied OS on the external drive; this is the best way to verify the integrity of the copied OS.
Can't recall if aliases were used in OS 8.1. If they were, it may be necessary to 'fix' any of them used, since the pathname contained in an alias is not corrected when it is copied to another drive - it continues to point to the original original.
You can also copy the entire source drive to the external one in one action - drag the iccon of the internal drive to that of the external one and drop it in.
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Quicksilver scsi drive size limit ?

Hello all.
The original 37gig SCSI drive on my Quicksilver (NOT mirror door) is beginning to sing a sad song so I am looking into replacement.
I know there is a 128gig size limit for ATA drives in this model but is there any size limit for internal SCSI ????
I have already added a 120gig ATA with my original 80gig ATA so I think I'm pretty well maxed out (heat and power wise) on internal ATA drives.
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[SOLVED]SCSI driver assumed to be missing.

$ wodim -scanbus
wodim: No such file or directory.
Cannot open SCSI driver!
For possible targets try 'wodim --devices' or 'wodim -scanbus'.
For possible transport specifiers try 'wodim dev=help'.
For IDE/ATAPI devices configuration, see the file README.ATAPI.setup from
the wodim documentation.
[vadim|VyVy|~]$ wodim --devices
wodim: No such file or directory.
Cannot open SCSI driver!
For possible targets try 'wodim --devices' or 'wodim -scanbus'.
For possible transport specifiers try 'wodim dev=help'.
For IDE/ATAPI devices configuration, see the file README.ATAPI.setup from
the wodim documentation.
Trying to write the cd from memory.
$ wodim -v -dao dev=1,0,0 Downloads/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.
scsidev: '1,0,0'
scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0
WARNING: the deprecated pseudo SCSI syntax found as device specification.
Support for that may cease in the future versions of wodim. For now,
the device will be mapped to a block device file where possible.
Run "wodim --devices" for details.
wodim: No such file or directory.
Cannot open SCSI driver!
For possible targets try 'wodim --devices' or 'wodim -scanbus'.
For possible transport specifiers try 'wodim dev=help'.
For IDE/ATAPI devices configuration, see the file README.ATAPI.setup from
the wodim documentation.
Last edited by Invie (2012-12-04 19:01:53)

Yes, nomorewindows was right.
sudo modprobe sr_mod
Did the trick. I haven't been replying to this thread since it held no great signifigance at the time. Now the output is as it should be:
[ ~ ] > cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.01a09 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2012 Joerg Schilling
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.34
Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'.
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVDRAM GSA-T10N ' 'PC05' Removable CD-ROM
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *
scsibus2:
2,0,0 200) 'ATA ' 'WDC WD1600BEVT-7' '11.0' Disk
2,1,0 201) *
2,2,0 202) *
2,3,0 203) *
2,4,0 204) *
2,5,0 205) *
2,6,0 206) *
2,7,0 207) *
Or this:
[ ~ ] > wodim -scanbus
Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.01a09 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2012 Joerg Schilling
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.34
Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'.
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVDRAM GSA-T10N ' 'PC05' Removable CD-ROM
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *
scsibus2:
2,0,0 200) 'ATA ' 'WDC WD1600BEVT-7' '11.0' Disk
2,1,0 201) *
2,2,0 202) *
2,3,0 203) *
2,4,0 204) *
2,5,0 205) *
2,6,0 206) *
2,7,0 207) *
Last edited by Invie (2012-12-04 19:03:07)

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I purchased the external chassis recommended above and have compared transfer rates with the somewhat unscientific copy time test, from the desktop of the apple SATA boot drive to and between various other drives. It appears that the internal SATA 7200RPM drive I bought from OWC is outperforming the external (10000RPM) SCSI drives I have mounted in the enclosure. This seems odd to me. I'm not sure if the bus speed is being ratcheted down to accommodate the cabling (SCSI 3) or what. I appear to be getting roughly one third of the 160MB/S limit on the Ultra160 drive (the buffer size is 8MB on this drive as opposed to 16MB on the 7200 drive).
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Any thoughts would be welcome. Here are the results of my testing.
Copying 1.27GB .zip archive:
desktop to 2nd internal SATA drive: 19 seconds (68MB/S or .53Gb/S)
desktop to external SCSI drive: 25 seconds (52MB/S)
2nd internal SATA to desktop: 19 seconds (68MB/S)
Duplicating 1.27GB .zip archive on the same drive:
internal SATA: 50 seconds
external SCSI drive #2: 58 seconds

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I am editing ProRes video files (and a lot of them) in FCP. My current external Firewire drive is sooo slow.
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http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/support/mac/
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