Sequence settings not maintained between FCP & Motion

My sequence settings in FCP are the same as in Motion however when I bring in a Motion file that I’ve created or a template it seems to revert back to square pixels. I found the “Correct for aspect ratio” in the view menu, which made the Motion file appear more like the FCP, but when I save the file and a template they still come into FCP in the wrong aspect ratio. In pref. settings for both projects (FCP & Motion) the Pixel Aspect Ratio is HD (960x720), not square. My project size is 1280 x 720. Can anyone help me understand how to get the Motion Project to play nice with FCP. When I stretch and adjust the Motion file to fit the FCP aspect ratio the render looks crappie.
Using FCP Studio 2

Thank you, Thank you!!! Now I understand what you were talking about in the 16 x 9 post answer that you gave.
From the 16 x 9 post:
"This is what happens in FCP as well. The only thing i find is that when I drop the project back into FCP it defaults to having an Distort value of 33. I have to click on it and change it back to 0 to make it display properly."
In that post you didn't mention "Aspect Ratio" parameter in the motion tab. I remember something else I had to adjust like that. Again, thank you. Now to see if the render is still crappie.
No the render of the font on the Motion file is still crappie. Aside from changing the font, does anyone have any suggestions?

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