Server Side Includes and Divs

I have a template (dwt) for my site with editable regions for
menus. I want to use Server Side Includes for the menu, as not all
the pages will have the same menu.
I have designed the site template (and pages) with css and
divs. The area for the SSI is a div of size 145x335. The menu which
I want to put inside this div will be a div based menu. I havent
had any luck displaying the Div from the SSI yet. I have been
looking on Google for help, but not much luck. I can get the Div to
appear but the formatting doesnt show up.
Im putting the SSI code in where I want it on the page, but
im not sure exactly which code to get rid of in the shtml file. I
know I need to remove body, head parts etc
My site template uses CSS stored on the document, not an
external css file.
Any ideas?

> Im sure Ive not got it right yet!! My head wont work
lately!
Yes. It's not working well here, either.
Create your template with the editable region. In it, have
links to a) the
general stylesheet for all the pages, and b) the general
stylesheet for all
of the includes (these don't really need to be separate
files). Spawn a
child page, drop in the desired include, and save that page
as
whocares.shtml.
That's it....
The incude files themselves can be names anything you want -
I like the
'monkeybutt' extension, e.g.,
yourinclude.monkeybutt
The include files can make reference to CSS selectors, but
cannot have
embedded CSS rules, or links to external CSS files.
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> Ive made myself confused now! I need it spelling out to
me!
>
> Ok, a template file (dwt) with its css as an external
style sheet.
>
> Rest of the sites pages made from the template file.
>
> Next, the template has one editable region for a choce
of 2 div based
> menus to
> be placed into. Place either of these div menus into the
template editable
> region by creating two seperate SHTML files - one for
each menu with the
> body/head removed(and with internal or external css?)
>
> Next put the SSI code into the body of the template
where I want the SSI
> to
> appear.
>
> Im sure Ive not got it right yet!! My head wont work
lately!
>

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    "jp3rks" <[email protected]> wrote in
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    >I am new to using SSI. I guess one question is: does the
    include have to be
    > saved as a .shtm or .shtml file? I am trying to take a
    Spry Navigation
    > bar and
    > use it as an include in a site I am building. I have
    saved it as a .html
    > file
    > and a .shtml file, but neither is working. It shows up
    in design view,
    > but not
    > preview in browser view. Here is the code of the SSI:
    >
    >
    > <script src="../SpryAssets/SpryMenuBar.js"
    > type="text/javascript"></script>
    > <link href="../SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarVertical.css"
    rel="stylesheet"
    > type="text/css" />
    > <div>
    > <ul id="MenuBar1" class="MenuBarHorizontal">
    >
    <a href="
    http://www.j-boysentertainment.com">Home</a>
    </li>
    >
    <a href="#" class="MenuBarItemSubmenu">Projects</a>
    >
    >
    <a href="../pamperzpro.html">Pamperz
    Pro</a></li>
    >
    > </li>
    >
    <a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Creative
    Team</a>
    >
    >
    <a href="#">Jeff Reed</a> </li>
    >
    <a href="#">John Elliott</a></li>
    >
    <a href="#">Jack Kelly</a></li>
    >
    <a href="#">J. Skylar Testa</a></li>
    >
    <a href="#">Jonathan Perkins</a></li>
    >
    > </li>
    >
    <a href="#">Connect</a></li>
    >
    > </div>
    > <script type="text/javascript">
    > <!--
    > var MenuBar1 = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar("MenuBar1",
    > {imgDown:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif",
    > imgRight:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif"});
    > //-->
    > </script>
    >
    > Does anyone see what I am doing wrong? Also, when I
    insert it as a SSI,
    > does
    > it matter if it is a file or a virtual?
    >

  • Cannot Preview Server Side Includes in Browser

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    something wrong of if this is just a bug of some kind. Can anyone
    help me to solve this problem so that I can get back on track?
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    >I am working on building a new site using server side
    includes for the main
    > header graphic and menu items. For testing purposes, I
    created an .html
    > file
    > with one <div> tag containing a single graphic and
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    "Myrrhlin225" <[email protected]> wrote in
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    > explain
    > that I should be able to do so, but it's just not
    working. Well, I'm now
    > at a
    > loss and cannot figure out if I'm doing something wrong
    of if this is just
    > a
    > bug of some kind. Can anyone help me to solve this
    problem so that I can
    > get
    > back on track?
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    >
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    Murray --- ICQ 71997575
    Adobe Community Expert
    (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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    "LumberBisquit" <[email protected]> wrote in
    message
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    >
    quote:
    Originally posted by:
    Newsgroup User
    > But underlying it all is this nasty requirement to
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    >
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    to synchronize
    > your
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    issues? Can you keep
    > pages in
    > sub-directories based on the specific template from
    which they were
    > created or
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    >
    >
    > This makes sense to me and is very much what I had in
    mind, (after asking
    > lots
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    2. Lastly, all
    > page-specific content including detail text, images, and
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    > Spry
    > panels will appear in editable regions, (defined by
    divs, presumably?) -
    > class
    > 3. WIth the latter, I'll preload the editable regions
    with the type of
    > content
    > I want and then customize it on each page, relink, etc.
    >
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    >
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