"Shared" Video quality disappointing

When I use iM to share even full quality .DV video from my iM project I get a lower quality video! It appears to be somewhat "pixelated" especially with horizontal lines during even the slightest motion.
And when I export to .mpg or .mov formats the video is very pixelated when compared to videos of similar compression and size in the same format, what gives?
Would QTpro solve these quality problems?
TIA
-Tim
eMac Mac OS X (10.4.6) 1.25ghz 1gb superdrive

.dv is a format meant for being displayed on TVs:
640x480/interlaced.. a computer has a different
concept of displaying "video"/content... a much
higher res, no interlacing (and diff. colors, etc)
I actually just "shared", "QuickTime" (tab) in "full quality" from iM, then viewed in QT. No change in view size, did see significant loss of picture quality, as described.
Believe me I am NOT blaming my MAC!!
watching an iM project on a Mac fullscreen results in
a "blow up" =>loss of quality
and:
QTplayer is by default set to "best performance" not
"high quality" (in QTpro: -J,
video/quality/checkbox...)
Don't have QT-pro (had it in QT6, on a different MAC, since sold)
so, DO NOT judge pic quality on your Mac!
playout to tape/watch on telly; or use the "live
playout" feature of iM via fw connected camcorder +
TV....
Believe me I am NOT blaming my MAC!!, Just looking to make videos of comparable quality and of comparable size to .mpg I see on web. There must be a way, and my iMovie doesn't seem to do it right now.
the dv exported by iM are in highest possible
quality... don't worry
...And when I export to .mpg...
iM/QT does not support export to .mpg ... how/with
what app did you generate these files?
I "shared" to quicktime, "expert settings", movie to Divx, and mpeg-4, the ipod setting .m4v seemd pretty good, but obviously small, and larger file than comparable video (in size and length) to other .m4v for ipod I have found.
I also have used the .dv files with ffmpeg, and I still cannot match the quality of similar viseos made by others without a MUCH larger file.
Any Suggestions?

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