Sharpened image looks wrong on my NEC monitor while absolutely fine in MacBookPro retina

Hi all,
I use Photoshop CC. Today I came across this image on my NEC where I sharpened and added a bit clarity image looks just to find that image looks very wrong in photoshop but OK in ACR. Then I uploaded same image with same settings on my MAc Pro Retina however image looked perfectly fine in both ACR and photoshop. Then I cranked up clarity to a max and sharpening in ACR to a max too 115 1.0 25 0 image remained fine viewing on both ACR and photoshop on Mac.
Here is upload:http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/...psqqtqidhi.jpg
I am using NEC Multisync PA241W w. Calibrated a week ago.
Thanks

Hi Melissa,
Let me split in sections our conversation:
"The raw file, using your numbers, top large, Photoshop, bottom, ACR. The smaller image on the right is the same thing only applied to the jpg version from the website you liked to. Super grainy in the jpg because the file is sooooo much smaller than the original. All displayed at 100%."  For the purpose of this experiment only RAW file participates in ACR.  To capture our experiment we use screenshot function.
"so, what is different about your NEC and Mac images you originally posted... was it the exact same file at the exact same size?  Or was it 2 different images on different machines?" exact same file exact same resolution exact same filter applied in ACR. On Mac both ACR and in photoshop image displayed fine. On NEC ACR is fine however photoshop looks bad nasty.
"So... if you did everything to the raw file at it's original size it should be OK. If you made a smaller version and then did the ACR stuff... it's going to look like crap. In order to display this ginormous image you had to resize it at some point to get it into the screen shots. I think that is where the issue is..." How do you normally view image in photoshop? The way I do i zoom out to my likening for instance this image was fine to view at 17-25% on my monitor and Mac too. Or I simply click on "fit to screen" option at it fits just fine. However image is view at 28.36% out of full 100%. If you choose to view at 100% you would get zoom like you have here in your screenshot. So to display it like I do just click fit to screen and that will do.

Similar Messages

  • Images look too light on new monitor

    Hi,
    I hope you can help me. I've been working in CS5.5 on two Dell desktops, using two Dell Ultrasharp monitors. The color was consistent on both. I created files on the newest of the two computers, viewing them on the Ultrasharp 2311 monitor. The files were used to produce both printed and digital books, and everything looked good. Note - I'm not a graphic designer. I never calibrated the monitors or made any adjustments to the settings, either in the system display or in PS.
    I just retired the oldest computer and bought a new Dell computer, along with the Ultrasharp 2711 monitor, which has excellent reviews. The files that look fine on my two-year old computer/monitor are too washed out on the new monitor. Dell couldn't figure out the problem and sent me a new monitor, which didn't change anything. The technician at Adobe could see the problem and we played with the settings, but couldn't fix it. If I go to Proof Setup/Monitor RGB it gets closer, but it's still too light. I never made this adjustment on the older monitor.
    I KNOW the files produced on the older monitor work, because I've seen the finished printed and digital books. Manipulating the file on the new system isn't the answer. There must be some setting that needs to be adjusted, but neither Dell nor Adobe can help me.
    By the way, my older monitor looks fine connected to the new computer, so it's not a computer issue.
    Can anyone point me in the right direction?
    Thanks so much,
    Chris

    Thanks Peter & Sid. I appreciate the advice, but it doesn't match our experience over 12 years of designing web applications so I'm having trouble understanding what's different, can I ask for any more advice you might have?
    If we calibrate the monitor using the recommended tools, will Photoshop images look 2-3 f-stops brighter (i.e. as they should look) and will images in all other apps (which look fine now, have always looked fine) look 2-3 f-stops too bright? Or would we be changing JUST the way Photoshop sees the images?
    Through probably a dozen different previous CRT and LCD monitors, we've never calibrated anything. Even on our immediately-previous Samsung 213T monitor, images appear pretty much the same in Photoshop as they do in all other places. That includes published web sites viewed with several popular browsers and viewed on literally hundreds of different systems inside and outside of our office.
    The previous monitor was being used with exactly the same software and hardware as the new one. The only thing that's changed is the monitor.
    Peter asks about brightness or white point luminance. I haven't used any tool to determine that. The monitor is set to 50% brightness, for whatever that's worth, but I can tell you that it is substantially BRIGHTER on white than the previous monitor. The previous Samsung monitor is being run side-by-side with the new one, and it looks quite dull and yellow beside the new one (and we thought it was a great monitor!) The new 30" Samsung has MUCH whiter whites. Does that help even a little?
    Thanks for any further advice.

  • How do I make a site with full browser sized images look right on different desktop monitors

    If I cannot get an answer to this question, I will have to cancel my subscription. I have contacted support to no avail, and there is no place else to go for help. My vertically scrolling site looks great on my laptop, but when published the layout is all screwed up on differently sized desktop monitors. I have spent hundreds of dollars now in cc subscription now learning this. Someone please help!

    Hi,
    I think you're asking how to make a fullscreen slideshow.
    That's a new feature just added with the Muse 7 release.
    Here's the documentation:
    http://helpx.adobe.com/muse/tutorials/widgets.html#Adding%20Fullscreen%20Slideshow%20widge ts
    Reply back and let us know if that's what you're looking for  or not.

  • Graphics and images look wrong in Safari 4.0.3

    Hello
    Since upgrading to Safari 4.0.3 graphics and images in websites look low quality. As if they are being rendered with 256 colours or they are heavily compressed. The strange thing is that about a week ago the problem disappeared and everything looked sharp and great, I ran the new version of Cocktail last night and now the problem is back! Could be a coincidence but either way I can't fix it.
    Any advice would be appreciated
    Andy

    Greetings,
    Caches cannot be emptied automatically, nor can Web Page Previews, which is used for the Top Sites and Cover Flow features in Safari. You can empty those folders, but Web Page Previews will simply be refreshed with new images as you browse.
    If you don't want to use the Top Sites or Cover Flow features in Safari 4.0.3, you can disable it completely, and then you could empty those folders (com.apple.Safari and Web Page Previews) and then Lock the folders so any cache files from browsing would be deleted when you quit Safari.

  • Why does my image look wrong in liquid layout?

    I'm making a site for an artist and tried using a liquid layout in CS5. I also made one in fixed like I usually do. The width on both is 1260 and the header image on both is 1260 px wide.
    On the dh5 (fixed) one, the header is centered. On the dh7 (liquid) one, the image, which is a title, is moved slightly to the left. Is this fixable or should I just stick to fixed layouts?
    dh5: http://bethniebuhr.com/dh5.html
    dh7: http://bethniebuhr.com/dh7.html
    Thank you.

    Hi
    The problem with the header in the semi-liquid layout, (not liquid as it has a max and min width) is that being an image it has a fixed height and width and this is causing your problems.
    Using images in liquid and semi-liquid layouts requires a completely different work-flow to what is required in a fixed layout as one must allow all the images to expand within their designated areas and ensure they still retain their aspect ratio, all of which is possible but will require much more work in learning that that normally required.
    PZ

  • Image slow to refresh on HD monitor while color correcting

    Hi, and Happy New Year, all!
    We have an annoying issue, and wondered if anyone else had the same experience.
    Our project is HD, ProRes 422, 23.98fps, working in FCS2, MacPro with a Kona LH card outputting to a Sony CRT HD monitor via SDI.
    The issue is, that while color correcting, either moving from frame to frame, or grading a shot, the monitor sometimes refreshes straight away to display the change, but sometimes takes a second, and sometimes doesn't change at all. So, for example, if I bring the saturation of a shot all the way down, the preview window shows the change, but the monitor doesn't. This makes it very difficult to work out whether the changes are correct!
    Anyone seen this happen?
    thanks!
    Matt

    The video output is actually set to 10-bit 1080psf/29.97. Oddly enough, that was the only setting that would play smoothly out through an HDLink to an Apple 23" LCD, and the Sony CRT that we now have only accepts 29.97 anyway.
    You think it's a frame rate conversion issue in the Kona? I see there are now v.5 drivers for the LHe - might see if they help any.
    thanks
    Matt

  • I just bought an Epson Stylus Pro 3880 and the printed images look yellow. I calibrate my MacBook Pro monitor with a ColorMunki Display. I want to make sure my Lightroom print settings are correct.

    I just bought an Epson Stylus Pro 3880 and the printed images look yellow. I calibrate my MacBook Pro monitor with a ColorMunki Display. I want to make sure my Lightroom print settings are correct.

    This what I have been trying......  Maybe my eyes are screwed up or don't understand the process....
    What I have been trying to do is squint and make the apple disappear by moving the sliders around in each step. Is that correct?

  • Images look different in Lightroom than in Windows viewer

    I just bought a new NEC monitor, but had this problem with my old monitor too.  I'm actually guessing its not a monitor issue at all.
    When I view and edit an image in Lightroom then export it as a JPG it looks way more red and more saturated in windows viewer than in lightroom.  My monitor is calbrated using a Spyder2.  Is there a way to make my windows viewer have the same color?  I hate having to open another application to review the edits.
    Thanks
    Chyna

    Lee Jay wrote:
    thedigitaldog wrote:
    The Windows viewer, unlike Lightroom (or Photoshop and others) is not color managed. The previews in that app are incorrect. No, there is no way to make a stupid non color managed app, color managed.
    Well, yeah, but you could export in sRGB and get a lot closer.
    What’s the old saying? Close only counts in atom bombs?
    Saving sRGB may get “closer” but it doesn’t ensure a match. Only using ICC aware applications can get us to that goal. And assuming someone, like myself is using an extended gamut display, something far closer to Adobe RGB (1998), an sRGB image in a non color managed app will look butt ugly. So no, this is not a solution. Using ICC aware software to view your images IS!

  • Images processed in lightroom on calibrated monitor then viewed on non calibrated monitors

    I process my images to look good on on my calibrated monitor, then export them to my website for viewing. When I show people my images on their monitors which generally are not calibrated, the images of coarse look washed out and way too light. How do you guys compensate for a situation like that? Of coarse you want your images to look the way you want them too on everyones computer that looks at them. Is it best to darken and over saturate in lightroom to compensate for the difference?
    Curt

    The histogram represents the numerical values of lightness and color that are stored in the file or in the XMP-data or in the LR Catalog.
    Different (uncalibrated) monitors interpret these numerical values differently, so an image from one and the same file would look different on these monitors.
    But the (uncalibrated) monitors do not shift the black or white point; they just display the tonal values different. So for instance an image file with correct black and white point would have blown-out highlights on a monitor that is too bright. Or the darks could block-up on a monitor that is too dark.
    But the monitor doesn't change your image file and doesn't change the histogram.
    The purpose of calibrating the monitor is to give you a standard when you edit your images. If your monitor is not calibrated and  - for instance - has a white point of 5000 K instead of the standard of 6500 K,  then your images would appear too red (too warm in photographic terms) on  your monitor. If you then corrected your image (its numerical values) so that it appears "normal" on your screen, it would have a blue cast (too cold) on a calibrated monitor.
    So basically we calibrate our monitors to create a standard (a) between different devices (monitors, printers, etc) and (b) between your own images edited at different points in time. Without calibration your monitor would not only display "wrong" colors but display the same numerical color value differently at different time (monitors "drift" and thus have to be re-calibrated at regular intervals).
    But naturally, the color management does not work for uncalibrated monitors. So, even if you have a color-managed workflow, you  never know how your images that are posted on the web will look on other people's monitor. And there is no help for that as long as uncalibrated monitors exist.
    WW

  • Don't my clients deserve to see sharpened images?

    I do quite a bit of portrait photography for clients, and the images are shown to my clients in a presentation either on my laptop or a large screen. Why can't I show my clients a sharpened image from within Lightroom 1.1? Sharpening is definitely visible on a large monitor, and with 1.0 the sharpening was visible in other views. Now with 1.1 the slideshow turns off sharpening! I can understand that turning on sharpening everywhere could have performance problems, but the whole point of a slideshow is to show images to people! Shouldn't they look their best?
    The second most common usage for my photos is in my online gallery, and with the new Lightroom 1.1 sharpening the only way to see how the sharpened image is going to look online is to export and view the images in a separate program! Does that make any sense? I might as well just export the image into photoshop to sharpen.
    Finally, when setting the sharpening parameters I realize you can see more of the sharpening effects at 100%, but at least in Photoshop one can see both the 100% view and the image at any magnification, which is really useful in determining how that image will look like both when viewed on the web and when printed.

    Generating on-the-fly previews for slideshows is not unprecedented -- Aperture does this very thing. And it does take Aperture a good few moments to go through this process before it launches your slideshow.
    Perhaps LR should have a feature to automatically generate temporary 1:1 previews for slideshows. Or to just generate 'standard previews' WITH sharpening (as of now, I can't tell the application of sharpness in the Develop module on 'standard previews', only on 1:1 previews zoomed out to 'fit') for slideshows.
    Or just, in general, a feature to ALWAYS generate 1:1 previews.
    Mixed bag... dunno what the best combo would be.
    -Rishi

  • Why do my images look washed out...

    Why do my images look washed out after I have worked in Photoshop CS6 and saved them in Finder? I have been a Photoshop user for a while now and have never experienced this problem. It started 2 months ago and no one can seem to tell me why or how to fix it. I am a professional photographer and I have clients waiting on their images but I can't send them looking as horrible as they do. My workflow is: drag and drop an image from iPhoto or Finder to Photoshop. I change things like levels, contrast, image size and use the healing too. Then I save to Finder so I can upload to dropbox or to website or burn to a DVD. Now when I save the image the thumbnail looks washed out, without color and looks horrible!!! I don't know if my photo files are corrupted or ? If I open the image in Photoshop or Bridge it looks fine. I would be grateful for any suggestions or explanation. Things were working just fine, but not now.

    Examining the image direct from the camera of the child on the beach, using http://regex.info/exif.cgi  there is a small embedded thumbnail (with black bars top-and-bottom to letterbox it to the LCD aspect ratio), and a small preview probably used for zooming in on the camera LCD screen, and the fullsize jpg image all contained in the one JPG file.  All three of these seem to have identical histograms other than the black-bars causing a dark peak on the thumbnail image, but otherwise the shapes of the histograms and the position of the peaks from light to dark are the same. 
    In other words the full-size JPG and the embedded preview and thumbnail all seem the same other than size so the darkened version seen in Finder is not coming from the camera.  The one issue the above website reports is that the camera JPG has a color-profile tag (name of the profile) but does not actually contain the color profile, itself.  All other versions of the image have an actual embedded profile not just the name in a tag.  It is possible that this is confusing Finder into assuming a different profile or gamma curve for the image that sRGB warrants, but most all camera images have this issue so I wouldn't expect a Mac to show images from all cameras as too dark.
    It is a mystery to me why the Finder preview looks darker, but at least in the one side-by-side provided, it does, and is different-looking than all other representations of the image from what I can see.
    At the beginning of this thread you said you were worried the photos coming out of Photoshop were washed out and had bad colors.  From my perspective, what comes out of Photoshop looks the same as what comes out of the camera, so only Finder has it wrong.  Are you seeing the darker image anywhere else besides Finder (and perhaps iPhoto which we don't have a screenshot of)?
    Most importantly does the image you see on screen in Photoshop, while you're making adjustments, look dark like the pre-PS Finder thumbnail or does it look lighter, like the post-PS Finder thumbnail and all the images on DropBox? 
    If more than just the pre-PS Finder thumbnail is darker then you may have a monitor calibration issue that needs to be addressed, otherwise just ignore the pre-PS Finder thumbnail when evaluating if the image needs any adjustments and assume they are all ligher than the Finder image.
    BTW, I tested for a sRGB vs AdobeRGB mismatch, and if an sRGB image is assigned an Adobe profile then the colors become more intense but the whole image does not become darker so that can't explain what is happening. 

  • Images Change Colors between monitors while the UI stays the same

    Hey! Im having an issue where photoshop changes the colors when I move the window between my monitors, seen here: http://sta.sh/04y5s60vf3j This isnt due to the monitors themselves being different, it actually changes after a few seconds of moving it inbetween the monitors. The left one has been callibrated with a spyder 3 elite which I no longer have access to. I applied the file with windows color management instead of the spyder utility. The second one is new, and it is not callibrated by anything, but instead was done by hand with the built in brightness/contrast/custom RGB settings. Both of them are very close to eachother, enough so for my tastes. but when photoshop changes what the image looks like, it's causing problems. Interestingly enough, when I disable callibration for the monitor on the left, the image does not change colors between monitors, but instead always appears as it does on the right. but then they don't match up and the whole screen looked washed out because it's uncallibrated, so that doesnt do me any good. Another interesting thing to point out, is when this image is saved as a .JPG, and viewed with firefox the image appears exactly like the monitor on the LEFT (which is my main monitor) despite the left monitor being the one that is force changed. does anyone have any suggestions? It also appears that windows photoviewer is behaving the same way, though firefox does not. Meaning when I open an image in all 3 on the left monitor, they look the same, but when opened on the right monitor, windows photo viewer and photoshop both display the image as brighter and redder than firefox does. This is frustrating, because it seems photoshop is changing the image with my callibration on my left monitor to match what it looks like on the web, which it does. but it doesn't do this for the right monitor, or when the left is uncallibrated. Another issue I can see with this is even if the UI is the same shade of gray, the images are different between the monitors because of this change. Does anyone have any suggestions?
    - BD

    Alright! So I reread through all this, poked at some things on the internet, and I'm going to attempt to summarize what would be a good solution for all this (And it seems, it still won't be perfect, but to get myself into the best environment I can for not messing with images for an hour trying to make them look nice before I post them to the web. I painted something yesterday on the cintiq, popped it over to my laptop screen and it just looked washed out and terrible.)
    1. Get a X-rite EODIS3 i1 Display Pro, Callibrate laptop and cintiq. I do have the money to drop on something like this, especially if it's a time saver.
         Things I'm not sure about:
              a. There was a ton of complaints about the software not working when I checked reviews, but also a ton that said everything was great. most of them were mac users though.
              b. I'm not sure if problems would still be posed, even while calibrated, by me having a wide gamut monitor.
              c. I'm a terrible excuse for a human being and I think the colors showing up brighter on the wide gamut screen is pretty (I should just make my images this bright on a normal screen and there won't be any issues. >.>)
    2. Set Firefox to color manage (easy enough)
    3. Change my photoshop working space to sRGB (since they'll have been calibrated at this point)
    3. Accept the fact that most of the people who look at my work will be doing so on a monitor that is almost certainly uncalibrated, and I can't control what they will see on my screen, but I CAN control if the colors are -actually- what I want them to be on any properly calibrated device. which is probably the best way to go anyways.
    4. Make paintings, have fun.
    Now, you two have been going on about all sorts of interesting things in here, and it seems that calibration issue run much much deeper than I ever thought. Do either of you have recommendations for how I should tweak this list of things to do or other things I can/ should do? I'm not currently a working professional, but if I have anything to say about it, I will be within a few years (I'm going to school for illustration and studying concept design on my own time) so it'd be useful for me to get into good habits now.
    - Brendavid

  • Images look less saturated in Photoshop CC 2014

    I import my RAW images into Lightroom 5 and make some basic adjustments.  Then I edit the image in Photoshop with the Lightroom adjustments.  I clean up the images and crop to the size I like and then I use the Perfect Effects 9 plugin to do some more edits.  I finish my edits in Perfect Effects 9 and save them which brings me back into Photoshop CC as a new layer.  In Photoshop the image looks less saturated than it did in Perfect Effects 9.  I then save the Photoshop file and exit.  When I look at the PSD file in Lightroom 5 browse window, it looks the same as it does in Perfect Effects 9.  Why does it look less saturated in Photoshop CC 2014?
    Here are my colour settings:
    Lightroom 5:
    External Editing:
         Edit in Adobe Photoshop CC 2014:
         File Format = TIFF
         Color Space = AdobeRGB(1998)
         Bit Depth = 16
         Resolution = 240
         Compression = zip
    Additional External Editor:
        Preset = Perfect Effects 9 Suite
        File Format = PSD
        Color Space = AdobeRGB(1998)
        Bit Depth = 16
        Resolution = 300
    Perfect Effects 9:
    General:
         Working Color Space = sRGB IEC61966-2.1    
    Files:
         Copy Options:
         File Format = PSD
         Color Space = sRGB IEC61966-2.1
    Plug-ins:
         Lightroom:
         File Type = PSD
         Color Space = Adobe RGB 1998
    Photoshop CC 2014:
        Color Settings:  Custom
        Working Spaces:
        RGB = sRGB IEC61966-2.1
        CMYK = U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2
        Gray = Dot Gain 20%
        Spot = Dot Gain 20%
    What color settings do I need to use so that the images have the same saturation look in all three programs? How do you know which image in which program is showing as the correct saturation?

    No, just keep it at sRGB. As long as you have the "preserve" policy, the working space actually isn't all that important. The embedded document profile will always override it (as it should).
    I had to read this a couple of times to follow the trail properly. Leaving Perfect Effects (which I don't know at all) out of it - does the very same file iteration, with the same edits, look different between Photoshop and Lightroom? Did I get that right?
    In that case you have a bad monitor profile. This can sometimes throw off one application but not the other. Recalibrate, or if you don't have a calibrator go into Windows color management and set sRGB IEC61966-2.1 as default display profile. When done relaunch all applications so that they can pick up the new profile at startup.

  • Skin Tones Look Wrong When Printing From iPhoto

    Hi
    I'm having trouble getting the caucasian skin tones to look right on photos printed with my Epson Stylus C86 printer on Epson Premium Semigloss paper. They look too pinky/purple when compared with the screen of the Sony DSC camera I shot them with and also my iMac's monitor. They just look wrong as though the subjects have a combination of bad sunburn, high blood pressure and are blushing at the same time!
    I've tried the following tips synthesised from other threads:
    1. Downloaded the latest set of drivers from Epson's website.
    2. Ensured that they are associated with the printer in ColorSync utility.
    3. Selected the Use ColorSync option when printing from iPhoto's print dialogue box.
    These made no difference to the default behaviour i.e. same color problems.
    Could anyone guide me to a solution? I would rather not have to use another application to print them if possible. I'm not used to my Mac not "just working".
    Thanks

    What color profile do the pics have? Is the printer set to the same profile?
    Regards
    TD

  • Bug? Images look different in photoshop

    Hi,
    Am hoping somebody can help me as I must be doing something really stupid here. I'm currently evaluating various workflow products, and really like Lightroom but find that whenever I import an image into LR the tones, particular shadow tones, look way too dark. They look kinda posterised.
    My monitor is color calibrated with a spyder. I am running Windows XP.
    I've attached a link to an image to demonstrate. I took an sRGB JPEG and imported into LR. I then edited a copy in PS (exported as ProPhoto - converted in PS to Adobe 1988 colorspace), another copy is shown exported to Capture NX (also Adobe colorspace).
    http://www.hamiltonconsulting.net/strange%20tones.jpg
    if you look at the shadow tones in the folds of the jacket you can see a minor difference between PS and Capture NX but you can see a clear difference in LR. The shadows are way darker.
    The image opens fine it every other application I have tried, including the free XP viewers. LR is doing something strange to the file but I cant work out what.
    I first noticed the problem occuring in Beta 4.1 and am now getting the same issue in the new Lightroom demo ( I had hoped it was a bug that would have been fixed). I have been installing all sorts of evaluation software of late, so maybe something hasnt been cleaned out of my registry, or something is clashing.
    So far, I've tried lots of different images (all with the same problem). Recreating an image database. Reinstalling LR (countless times).
    Does anyone have any ideas as to what I can try or do I need to reinstall my entire PC

    Yeah dude, that totally makes sense.
    "I notice blocking... that... really is a function of lighting..."
    Is that some sort of new-age yet-unheard-of phenomenon? If so, please elaborate by all means.
    The point is that the image looks like crap displayed in the 'Library' module of LR, but looks fine in any other program. Because no other program is content with sitting around and displaying to you a low quality JPEG preview of your, say, high quality 16-bit uncompressed TIFF image.
    That's why there's no blocking in the image loaded up in Photoshop. Yet it's there in LR because LR doesn't bother to render the image 'on-the-fly' until you step into the 'Develop' module.
    You don't believe me? Then be happy in your ignorance.
    On another note, though, instead of jacking it up to 400% when it's clearly evident at 100%, try calibrating your monitor with a hardware profiler so dark parts of images don't become a muddy mess of blacks. Be forewarned though that it's a double-edged sword: on the one hand, after calibration, you suddenly begin to see details in shadows that you may never before have seen; on the other hand, JPEG artifacts & noise in dark portions of images (inherent to JPEG compression) also become as apparent. Hence, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and figure you just can't see the blocking due to your monitor.
    Finally, on a LR-unrelated note, why don't you come back to these forums when you're ready to write posts free of cheap ignorant insults?

Maybe you are looking for