Simple, non-bloated usage of iPhoto- no "modified" folder, etc, etc wanted

Apologies if this has all been asked and answered. Searched a little and couldn't quite find the answers I'm seeking.
I've resisted using iPhoto for years, it never seemed to do what I want. Just bought a new iMac with the newer version of iPhoto, so I want to try it.
I have a lot (tens of thousands) of canon .raw images on an external HDD, organized into folders according to time and place shot, etc. I intend to keep them that way (external, and organized as they are). I need a photo organizer that will allow me to quickly see thumbnails of all or any of the photos, organized into whatever classes or groups that I want, with the ability to add and edit tags (date, place, people, etc), and perhaps be able to do simple image tweeking, resizing and printing. Sounds like iPhoto, so I just did a test run by importing a folder of raw images, and set preferences so that it didn't import the master file. Once all of the thumbnails were generated, I selected all, and hit the "play" button, assuming that it was a slideshow, to preview the images. I thought it would quickly make some temporary jpgs for the slideshow, then delete them when I quit. So far so good, but I looked into the "Pictures" directory in my user directory, and I see that 3 new directories were created, under the library called "test" that I created. One is "Data", the second is "Modified", and the third, "Originals". "Data" contains small .jpg thumbnails of all of the photos, at 30 or 40k each. "Originals" also contains all of the file names, same structure, but listed as shortcuts to the originals, also very small at about 4k each, but then there's the "Modified" folder, with 1 to 1.5 MEG files of all of the photos.
I understand the shortcuts and thumbnails, but why the "modified" folder? Is that from the slideshow? Seems that if I decide to process and create a picture, I should have the option of creating jpgs or tifs, and storing them where I wish. What's the point of all of those 1.5Meg files, slowing things down, and taking up space on the hard drive? Don't want them, don't need them. How do I avoid them? Does Aperture make similar 1 meg+ files of all images? I really don't want to spend that money on a cataloging program, but for sure I don't want all of those files needlessly created. Any settings in iPhoto that I'm not seeing to avoid having the "Modified" folder and images created?
thanks much!
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RS:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. The modified files are the jpg conversions of the RAW files. RAW files are like negatives and are never touched in the editing process, even by professional applications. If you shoot RAW then there's no way to avoid having the modified, jpg version of it in iPhoto. Aperture covers the RAW to either tiff or jpg to use. RAW files cannot be edited it it's natural form. It's just the nature of the beast and game.
When you're dealing with RAW then you've committed yourself to using lots of HD space. Unless you're a professional or doing very advanced amateur work, RAW tends to be a little overkill. IMO, it's just the buzz in the photographic industry right now and intended for pros.
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