Sky Hub (SR101) configured to roaming network on Airport Extreme?

Hi,
Im trying to find out if it is possible to connect a Sky SR101 Hub to a Airport Extreme to create a roaming network with 3 Airport Extremes?
If so is the procedure of connecting it as follows:
1. Sky Hub ethernet port connected to WAN port of 1st Airport Extreme
2. Ethernet Cable from the 1st Airport LAN port to the WAN port of 2nd Airport (in another room)
3. Ethernet Cable from the 2nd Airport LAN port to the WAN port of 3rd Airport (in another room)
What is the best way for the DHCP?
Do I set the 1st Airport that is connected to the Sky Hub do the DHCP and turn the Sky Hub wireless and DHCP off?
I am a bit confused when it comes to the DHCP side.
Thanks for your help in advance.

The Sky SR101 is a modem/router that provides both DHCP and NAT service.
So, in a "roaming network" configuration, each one of the AirPort Extremes would be configured to "create a wireless network" using the exact same wireless network name, same security setting and same wireless password as the Sky modem/router. Each AirPort must also be configured to operate in Bridge Mode.
Here, I am assuming that the Sky SR101 will be creating a wireless signal. Optionally, you could turn off the wireless on the Sky modem/router and use it only as a wired router if you prefer. In this case, the 3 AirPorts would be providing your wireless network.
1. Sky Hub ethernet port connected to WAN port of 1st Airport Extreme
2. Ethernet Cable from the 1st Airport LAN port to the WAN port of 2nd Airport (in another room)
3. Ethernet Cable from the 2nd Airport LAN port to the WAN port of 3rd Airport (in another room)
This will work, but better wiring practice.....if possible.....would be to connect each AirPort directly back to one of the Ethernet LAN <-> ports on the Sky modem/router. This is called "home run" wiring.
The reason for this is that your proposed setup makes use of what is known as a "daisy chain" configuration.
While the "daisy chain" type of setup will work....if everything is working.....let's say that you configure the network as proposed in 1), 2), and 3) above.
If the 1st AirPort Exteme has a problem, it will take out AirPort Extreme 2 and AirPort Extreme 3 as well. Or, if AirPort Exteme 2 has a problem, it will take out AirPort Extreme 3 as well.
With the suggested method of connecting each AirPort directly to the Sky modem/router in a "home run" wiring configuration, you might have a future problem develop with any given AirPort, but this will not affect the operation of the other AirPorts.
As far as DHCP and NAT service, it might be possible to configure the Sky SR101 to operate only as a modem with DHCP and NAT functions disabled.
But, even if you can do this, your service provider may not support this type of setup, so you would want to check with Sky first to see 1) If this is possible, 2) How to do it, and 3) Verify that they will support that type of configuration.
If you decide to go this route, then AirPort Extreme 1 would be configured to provide DHCP and NAT service. AirPort Exteme 2 and AirPort Extreme 3 would still both be configured in Bridge Mode. In this case, you would connect AirPort Exteme 2 and AirPort Extreme 3 directly to AirPort Extreme 1.

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