Slow render times with large jpegs - complete system lag

In a project i'm working on I have two large jpegs with a small zoom scaling effect. Going from 100 to 103 percent.
I've noticed that both Adobe Media Encoder and Premiere Pro experience a heavy slow down in render time as soon as the jpegs have to be rendered.
Not only does the render speed almost come to a halt, the complete system lags very heavy, even the mouse cursor won't respond well.
This happens when i have GPU acceleration enabled and when i do a 2 pass H264 encoding.
When I have the GPU acceleration disabled the render goes very smooth, and doesn't seem to slow down...
The jpeg is 4023 x 2677, and 6,97 MB large.
Scaling the jpeg down to about 1920x1080 in Photoshop and put that one in the timeline made the render go a lot faster.
I understand that a large picture takes a bit more time to be rendered, but we're talking about a 10minute render whit the large jpeg file and a 2 minute render with the jpeg resized.
The total time of the two jpegs in the video is 5 seconds in a 3 minutes video.
So, that made me think that the render times are exponentially long.
In the timeline everything runs really smooth.
Is this considered normal, I can't remember having such big differences in CS5. It's not a major thing, but I wanted to share anyway.
My system:
Premiere Pro CC (latest)
i7 4930K
32 GB RAM
2xGTX480
Footage and project on a Raid0 disk
Previews/Cache on a Raid0 disk
System and Premiere on SSD
Render to a single 7200 rpm drive.

>wanted to share
Yes... known issue... I think some of the below is about P-Elements, but the same ideas
Photo Scaling for Video http://forums.adobe.com/thread/450798
-HiRes Pictures to DVD http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1187937?tstart=0
-PPro Crash http://forums.adobe.com/thread/879967

Similar Messages

Slow render times with latest update

Since updating to Premiere CC 7.1 I am experiencing extremly slow render speed with Magic Bullet Looks and .Filmconvert pro 2. When hitting enter to render it hangs for aout 10 seconds before starting. Then after each shot has been rendered it hangs again before continuing, What used to take around 20 minutes now takes 2 hours 34 minutes.
Adobe, please can you show me how to roll back to version 7.0.1 as i don't have time to mess about with this.
OS: Windows 7
GTX 570 with latest driver (331.65)

Hi captain,
Check out the plug-ins manufacturer's web page and see if there are any updates for your plug-ins.
Thanks,
Kevin

Help - Getting slower render times with AE CS6

Hi everyone
Wonder if anyone else is getting as described?
I have a 3m37s project which is predomnantly motion graphics using live shot footage (.MXF files), Illustrator and a few JPGs.
In CS5 AE I get render times which average around 45mins, so I thought I'd see how quickly CS6 could crank it out by - as you can see I'm getting times which are in excess of 2 almost 3hours!
The project contains a few 2.5D moves as well as tiny bit of Trapcode 3D Stroke
I have mentioned on this forum that I'm having the Error 5070 problems with start up and Ray Trace is unavailable but these times seem seriously wrong to me.
Mac Pro 3,1 (2x 2.8GHZ)
20GB RAM
OS 10.7.4
NVIDIA GeForce GT8800
NVIDIA Quadro 4000 both on GPU Driver 207.00.00.f06
CUDA Driver 4.2.10
All files are on a 2TB drive (7200rpm)
Rendering to a 1TB drive (7200rpm)
Corsair SSD 60gb Cache drive
As an observation when I watch the frames counter ticking over, CS5 seems to steadily work it's way through the render at around less than a frame a second, CS6 seems to crank out 2-6 frames then hold for 30secs before working on another batch. It crawls to a halt near the end.
Can anyone offer any help or advice?
So far I'm not having a great time with my CS6 transition
Thanks
Rob
Message was edited by: Bokeh Creative Ltd
because of a Typo

Thanks Rick - Yes what confused me was that it only took 45mins in CS5 even with MP 'on'
Still having no joy with Ray Tracing though, even though I have a Quadro 4000 card, I get the 5070 error on start up. Any ideas?

PAINFULLY SLOW launch times with MS Office 2004 Apps?

Anyone else noticing painfully slow launch times with their MS Office 2004 Apps? It seems that each time I restart my machine and try to open any kind of office document the Word icon will bounce at least 15 times and then it takes forever for the application to actually launch. Once launched it seems fast and works fine, but not on initial launch after restart.
Is this a Rosetta issue? Should I reinstall the MS Office apps?
-JB

Seems ok to me. Did you download the latest update which finally allows spotlight to search in Entourage and provide other improvements?
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/downloads.aspx?pid=download&location=/mac/download/ office2004/Office2004_11.2.3.xml&secid=4&ssid=29&flgnosysreq=True
"Microsoft Office 2004 for Mac 11.2.3 Update
After you install this update, you can use Mac OS X Sync Services and Spotlight searches to sync and find Entourage items, use smart cards with Entourage 2004, and enjoy improved overall security and stability when using Microsoft Word 2004, Excel 2004, PowerPoint 2004, and Entourage 2004. This update also includes all of the improvements released in all previous Office 2004 updates.
Applies to: Microsoft Office 2004 Standard Edition, Office 2004 Student and Teacher Edition, Office 2004 Professional Edition, Entourage 2004.
Released: March 14, 2006"

Premiere Pro 2.0 slows when dealing with larger video files

I'm having issues with Premiere Pro 2.0 slowing to a crawl and taking 60-90 seconds to come back to life when dealing with larger .avi's (8+ mins). When I try to play a clip on the timeline, drag the slider over said clip, or play from a title into said clip on the timeline, Premiere hangs. The clips on question are all rendered, and the peak file has been generated for each different clip has well. This is a new problem; the last time I was working with a larger clip (45+ mins, captured from a Hi-8 cam), I had no problems. Now, I experience this slow down with all longer clips, although I've only dealt with footage captured from a Hi-8 cam and also a mini-DV cam. This problem has made Premiere nearly unusable. I'm desperate at this point.
System:
CPU: P4 HT 2.4ghz
Ram: 2x 1gb DDR
Video: ATI Radeon 9000 Series
Scratch Disk: 250gb WD My Book - USB 2.0 (I suspect this might be part of the problem)
OS: XP Pro SP2
I'm not on my machine right now, and I can definitely provide more information if needed.
Thanks in advance.

Aside from some other issues, I found that USB was just not suited for editing to/from, and on a much faster machine, that you list.
FW-400 was only slightly better. It took FW-800, before I could actually use the externals for anything more than storage, i.e. no editing, just archiving.
eSATA would be even better/faster.
Please see Harm's ARTICLES on hardware, before you begin investing.
Good luck,
Hunt
[Edit] Oops, I see that Harm DID link to his articles. Missed that. Still, it is worth mentioning again.
Also, as an aside, PrPro 2.0 has no problem on my workstation when working with several 2 hour DV-AVI's, even when these are edited to/from FW-800 externals.
Message was edited by: the_wine_snob - [Edit]

Slow render time, can anyone help?

I have recently installed some plugins and since it seems that render times are really slow. After every tweak of a filter I'm having to re-render for playback.
I have a one minute clip in the timeline for example, I add a vignette from my Magicbullet Plugin, nothing more and it takes 4 mins to render! My timeline is set to DV-PAL Anamorphic and my video captured as the same.
Any more info required please ask
Many thanks

Your RT settings don't improve final render times, but they may improve your editing experience by allowing better playback of effects without having to render your timeline. You should experiment with the settings in the sequence to see what works best for your particular setting. Generally, if you choose Unlimited RT you'll get more real time playback, and therefore won't have to render as often while editing. But you'll likely experience more dropped frames during your sequence playback. You still have to render your final output though.
Have a read of the manual and experiment. There are no hard and fast rules for settings as every system is different. Obviously, the more you tax your system the less it's able to play back in real time.
Best of luck.

Looong render times with motion templates

I've been a big advocate for FCPX as there are a lot of great features but there are some things that are just killing me, no.1 render time.
I'm working on some simple presentation edits using motion templates I have built in motion 5 and published to fcpx. The templates all consist of a single dropbox for video with a type field for test messages next to it. These are against a flat white rectangle used to reflect (similar to the coverflow but against a white background) and a subtle camera sweep has been added so it slowly turns from one side to the other by 30 degrees. Each of these is 10 seconds long.
I chop up my imported movie on the timeline (untouched by grade/fx/retiming) and add the template to each of the chopped clips. I then select each applied template in the timeline and use the video well to select the clip below it for the dropzone. I add my text. That's all good. I now have a timeline approx 3 minutes long consisting of these motion graphics templates.
Now, if I chose to either render or export a QT with timeline settings, estimated time is 8 - 9 hrs (I have tried both) I left a 3:30 project exporting last night at 11:45. It finished at 9:00AM.
That is just unacceptable. It is irritating because the functionality of building the sequences in FCPX far outweighs what FCP 7 is capable of but the so-called "renderless" abilities of FCPX
are making life ****.
I use Event Manager X to turn off everything I am not using except the individual project. I have reset preferences in Preference Manager to see if that helps. I have purged using terminal. I have my clips on an external firewire 800 HD. I have no other software running. I accept I need a more powerful Mac - I'm using a 2009 3 Ghz Intel Core Duo iMac with 6gig ram using Lion 10.7.2 and FCPX 10.0.2 but 9 hours for a 3:30 clip?
Any suggestions for where I can cut down on render time are appreciated. The source clip for the video for the dropzones and the final exported presentation movie are HD ProRes.
Cheers

The situation you describe does not seem normal. It should not take nearly that long to render and export your 3:30 movie. Considering that your mac is not one of the most recent vintage, and your are editing in full HD, one could expect it to take a bit of time, but nothing like this.
In the way of troubleshooting, you could try and export just one of these 10 second segments.
I have no way of knowing for sure, but I guess that it might export in a much more reasonable amount of time.
I suspect that memory may be running scarce, which, as has been repeatedly mentioned in these fora, is a problem affecting many of us using FCP X under Lion. You mentioned you used "purge" in the Terminal, but in such a long render you might have had to do it repeatedly...

Slow render times in Premiere when linking After Effects media

I'm an Avid Media Composer editor but I just switched to Premiere for a special project that needs to have non-interlaced output. I've been pretty impressed until I integrated an After Effects project into my timeline. My render times have now increased exponentially, despite the fact that the After Effects effects are quite simple - single layers of video with very simple moves. Can anyone else chime in with their experience integrating After Effects projects into Premiere? This just seems too horrible to be true.

I've found that the time to render out of After Effects versus the time to render a Dynamic Link comp in PPro is roughly identical. In fact, in many cases it's a bit quicker.
For heavy duty comps, I'd expect to see PPro struggle a little bit more, but definitely not with the basic work you seem to be talking about.

Slow render speed with new Mac Pro / NVIDIA 8800

I bought a new Mac Pro to replace a dual G5 because I have a number of Motion projects to finish quickly. My local dealer recommended the NVIDIA 8800 as it has 512 mb RAM (versus 128 on my old machine). I'm finding that the render time is worse than with the G5. I have yet to successfully render a 1 minute segment using Compressor (I've left it to run overnight several times with no success).
In Activity Monitor I'm seeing this message: CompressorTranscoder (Not Responding). But none of Batch Monitor, Compressor or Motion are unresponsive - not indicating any hung applications.
I've read that version 10.5.5 has compromised the NVIDIA card with Motion but haven't been able to get any reliable corroboration. As the Mac Pro shipped with 10.5.5 I can't really roll back to an earlier version.
Any advice? Anyone with similar experiences? I'm trying to render on a new iMac with 4 GB of RAM (with the ATI 2600 video card) but it doesn't seem to be working as it is an hour in and shows at least three more hours.

ChineesYouth wrote:
there's a better post just use the search and type in 3870 or best graphics card for motion
or click here

Slow loop times with 6024E and LV2009

Hello all,
I have searched the forums back and forth, in addtion to the knowledge base, but I am still confused as to the slow loop times I am experiencing. I have a 6024e PCMCIA DAQ card with a very simple VI created in LV 2009. I am using the DAQ Assistant to collect 1 thermocouple channel on a SCXI Chassis 32 channel thermocouple module.
The problem is that the loop times in labview is about 3 seconds. The DAQ Assistant acquisition mode is set to "on demand". The target sample rate is about 1 to 2 samples per second. I have read in previous posts that the repeated creation of the task using the DAQ Assistant with the acquisition mode set to "on-demand" can slow things down.
What really has me confused is that using this exact same method of setting the DAQ Assistant acquisition mode to "on-demand" has worked fine on the same hardware when using one of the earlier v8 versions of LabView. I don't understand what has changed and why the loop times are so much slower. I planned to pull the newest LV2009 off the computer and put a previous v8 version on just to confirm my observations. In addition, I pulled up a copy of the VI that was written in one of the v8.x versions and it used the DAQ Assitants with the acquisition mode set to "on-demand" and had a loop time of 0.100 seconds.
Any help would be appreciated. I have been working on this all day today with no sucess.
Thanks in advance,
Steve

H_baker,
I did have the patch applied at the time I was experiencing the problems. The DAQmx driver version was the version that was supplied on the DVD that we received for LV2009. I believe the actual version number was something like 8.9.5.
The loop time was determined as follows:
A simple vi I was written in a while loop. The data acquisition was conducted using the DAQ assistant sampling 1 channel on the SCXI thermocouple module in a SCXI 1000 chassis. Inside the loop of the vi the getdatetime function was placed and wired to an indicator on the screen. The vi was then ran. Observation showed that the loop time was typically 3 seconds and sometimes 6 seconds by keeping track of the datetime indicator on the front panel.
The problem appears to be resolved now. I had pulled off the LV2009 installation and put back on the 8.6 installation. Recreated the vi and everything worked fine. As a sanity check I went ahead and reinstalled LV2009. Recreated the vi again and everything works fine now. The only real difference between the two installations is that I am using the latest NIDAQmx drives (I believe version 9.0.5). It could have been just some sort of transient issue that resolved itself either by reinstallation or by rebooting. Not sure. I was just initially very concerned given that another posting had mentioned loop times of 3 seconds just like I was experiencing.
Thanks,
Steve

Random, excruciatingly slow load time with 7900 Elite small form factor desktops

Hi all, I have approx 300 HP 7900 Elite small form factor machines in my environment that were deployed just over two years ago. from the time of deployment we have experienced on about 50 occasions a random, excruciatingly slow load time that take about one hour for the user to login and open their programs. there has been no rhyme or reason for it, different floors, areas of the building, etc. I searched the forum for similar probs and didn't see one like this, I hope I'm not duplicating efforts from someone else's question... One thing we have noticed is that if we re-boot while it is going through the start-up process, it seems to "make it angry" and will lengthen the overall load time. We use the 32-bit Vista Enterprise OS. This is with a "stock" build, that is to say, our standard corporate build. our security policy does not allow users to install software, by the way. Thanks so much if you can help!

Hi,
How is the issue going? Usually, this error can be caused by missing third-party NIC driver. To solve the issue, we can download the missing network
driver and update the WDS boot image to include it.
In addition to the article provided by Chris, the following blog can also be referred to as reference.
http://askmetricks.blogspot.in/2013/03/solvedwdsclient-error-occurred-while.html
Please Note: Since the web site is not hosted by Microsoft, the link may change without notice. Microsoft does not guarantee the accuracy of this
information.
Best regards,
Frank Shen

Slow render times even with more RAM...why?

I have a Quad core Mac Pro that I just upgraded the RAM on from 3G to 7G and can't see any improvement in render speeds, any idea why that would be? As a test I added a simple text box over a single layer of video, added a drop shadow to it (which then requires a render to view) and it didn't take any less time than it did before, about 10 seconds. Shouldn't this have been improved with $225 worth of memory?

If you're talking about editing speed, that's not "rendering." The goal is not to render at all. Really the best things you can do are: have all your material in the same codec, same size, same everything: then you'll have lot fewer of the timeline "bars" indicating rendering. Having a fast enough machine and drives means you can playback in realtime, or closer to it. Many of us are using one of the flavors of ProRes because it's tuned to the editing environment (as opposed to acquisition or distribution). The machines and processors can handle it. Having enough ram means the system does not have to swap out segments of memory to complete operations. As has been noted, FCP can't access all that much memory in the first place. But with too little memory, which doesn't appear to be your case, some of that memory is captured by the OS performing other duties.
I can run ProRes on an older MBP with 4 gigs total using an old Firewire 400 drive without any significant timeline rendering popping up. Of course I'm editing documentary work. I'm not trying to turn it into a Flame for compositing.

Slow render time in Premiere Pro CS4 (with fast computer?)

Hello people on the Adobe Forums,
I hope someone can help me with this question, it's been bothering me a long long time now and this week i have to make a decision, or fix the problem and keep this configuration, or spend money for a new cpu (i5 750) and a new motherboard. But i think this computer should do better then it does. I have the following configuration:
AMD Athlon X2 4600+
Nvidia GeForce 7800GTX
2× 1Gb OCZ memory (DDR, PC2400, 250mhz)
Storage Disks:
Seagate 320GB SATA (7200, i think)
WD 74GB SATA (10.000RPM, OS)
Hitachi 500GB SATA (also 7200, i think)
WD 1TB USB (SATA) (extern hdd)
WD 250GB SATA (7200, i think)
So, i don't understand the problem, Premiere is running very slow on my computer.. The rendering of a 5min piece of just a random movie takes like 3 hours! Just right now i am rendering some things I filmed with my mobile, it does like 1 frame in 10sec!! On most pc's with this vice versa!
So the cpu is not that old, and neither is the videocard, meaby the memory is a little bit low.. Could that be the problem?
Hope you people can help me out, i searched Google and everywhere but can't find anyone with this problem..
List of software:
- Windows 7 Ultimate
- Adobe Premiere Pro CS4
Drivers are, as far as i know, all up to date, i updated the Adobe programs too..
Describe source material, Codec: XDCAM-EX Movie (mp4)
But like i said, it happens too avi too, it think that was DivX..
I bought this pc second-hand, so it could be that something in the processor is already broken and i didn't notice it at all.. i searched like everywhere and also tried too reinstall the program but that doesn't work either..
Some more info:
http://www.creadion.nl/premiere/info.jpg
http://www.creadion.nl/premiere/info.nfo
http://www.creadion.nl/premiere/DxDiag.txt
Ohye, and the PPBM: http://www.creadion.nl/premiere/Output_PPBM4.txt
With friendly regards,
Marinus

Well, I'm helping other people too here on some dutch foras and i hate how people say things like "Doesn't work. Help" and just wait and wait for someone to answer. Plus i want to order my new hardware this evening (10:27pm now here), so meaby that's a 'cause' too, to make you people answer fast! (and it worked! hehe)
So, what i am thinking of right now is to upgrade the motherboard, cpu and ram.. The videocard can wait a little more:
- Motherboard: MSI P55-GD65 (not sure of this one, good reviews&tests, Asrock P55 Extreme is an option too.. be my guest to do another recommendation) (Asus P7P55D seems like a good option)
- CPU: Probably an I5 750 from Intel, heard good things about this one.. Although i've always used AMD..
- RAM: I really don't know, don't see many differences between the RAM sticks.. But yeh: OCZ Gold OCZ3G2000LV4GK
Sorry for no links to product pages, you have to do a little search, i only got some dutch websites, and i know for sure that you all having you're own comparing/specs websites (which i don't know) .
Thank you very much untill now, meaby i get another reply tonight.. Ohye, plans changed, i'm not ordering tonight anymore.. I'll do that tomorrow morning (I'll do a few calls to a view webshops and see if they got in stock, if so, i'm gonna drive (or go with bus) to one of them.. I need it really really quick, need to submit a project from school August 30
Thanks everyone!
Just took a look at the links you gave me, the Asus P7P55D is an option too!
Took a look at the links, added the "Asus P7P55D".
What i forgot to mention: I got a budget with a max of like €400,- (That's like 510usd, I don't even really have the money) so I can't buy a whole new pc..

Long render time with premiere pro CS5 lately, help!

lately my premiere pro CS5 render extremely slow
i have a 6GB ram 64bit windows 7
is it normal to render a 10 minutes quicktime/h264 codec in 5 hours?
please take a note that this happened recently, so i think my pc spec. should not be the problem
thanks in advance

You start off with the wrong sequence settings. To resolve that, right click on a clip in the project panel and select 'New Sequence from Clip". That will give you the correct sequence setting for your source material.
When exporting, never use QuiRcktime, since it is a 32 bit application, plagued with numerous severe problems, hence the name. Use plain 64 bit H.264 codec for exporting. If you use Maximum Render Quality, your export can take many times longer than without that checked.
Your memory and presumably the rest of your system (please give details) is not up to this task, especially not when you start with the wrong sequence settings, export with a 32 bit codec and have MRQ turned on.

Very slow render times....I think

So I'm running an 08 aluminum (non unibody) macbook pro. 2.2ghz 4GB ram, 500GB 5400 RPM HDD (my 7200 momentus XT failed). I'm rendering about 1:30 of video with two filters of magic bullet looks, and one filter of Marcalli. Its HD video, 1440x1080 from my Sony A33. The videos take almost an HOUR to render that minute and a half or so, is this normal? I can't figure out why everything si so damn slow. I'm a photographer by trade so I'm used to faster renderings, but this seems a bit excessive.
HELP

That sounds about normal.
90 seconds time-line rendering in 60 minutes. Your system is at least 30 times slower than a fast system, so, yes, it sounds about right.
On a fast system this would translate to 90 seconds in around 2 minutes. If your system is 60 x slower, then it would mean 1 minute on a fast system.
Nothing to worry about, Nothing seems out of the ordinary, just a slow system, that's all.

Slow render times with large jpegs - complete system lag

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for