Slow Safari and Firefox with sys. 10.4.11

Since installing sys. 10.4.11 both Safari and Firefox have become extremely slow. Safari can take 25, 30 or more seconds to open a page. I haven't noticed a speed change in other apps. I have a DSL router which serves 4 computers. Sys. 10.4.8 was much faster. Any ideas are welcome.
Thanks.

I've experienced the same thing. Thought it was my DSL ISP and complained numerous times. Went from avg. 2600 kbps down/ 768kbps up to 860 kbps down and 13 kbps up. This range is consistent on all machines on my network, and with both Firefox and Safari. Last night, I hooked up my IBM lap top and re-ran the test: got 2586 kbps down and 457 kbps up on the PC. Now I think my ISP may be correct -- they don't see a problem with the lines. Looking back, the slow down for the Macs coincides with 10.4.11 updates. Tonight I'll begin looking at the Macs to see why they can't connect at the same rate as before the update, and at the same rate as the PC. Any suggestions on how to restore Mac performance?

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Ron,
You can run the cron maintenance scripts by using a freeware utility such as MacJanitor (found on VersionTracker or MacUpdate) which is probably the easiest or you can run them via Terminal by opening Terminal found in your Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app.
Here are the instructions from Dr. Smoke's excellent FAQ, from the X-Lab, for running them manually:
"Using your Admin account, you can execute all three maintenance scripts at once, as follows:
Launch Terminal, in the Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities folder.
At the Terminal prompt, type the following, exactly as written:
sudo periodic daily weekly monthly
Press Return.
Type your Admin password when prompted, then press Return.
All three scripts will run in sequence. There is no visual feedback while the scripts execute. You will know they are completed when the Terminal prompt returns."
They might take a few minutes to run but that might help significantly if you have never ran them and you sleep your computer at night when the OS normally runs these.
Here is the direct link to Dr. Smoke's FAQ: "Running the Mac OS X maintenance scripts"
post back with comments or questions,
littleshoulders
PS. You appear to have more than enough free disk space available so that should not be the problem.
Message was edited by: littleshoulders

Safari AND firefox slow

I have problems with both Safari and Firefox being ridiculously slow on certain webpages, up to a point where they won't load at all. Good example is Yahoo webmail. I am back to using a stone age dell laptop when I need to check Yahoo mail. Having browsed this forum it appears that quite a few people have similar issues with Safari and a standard remedy is to use Firefox instead. Won't work for me since I have the very same problems with Firefox .... Can someone help me out with this? THANKS!

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Form Values
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Hi,
I have a puzzeling problem.
I have a IMAC intel late 2007 nov with 4gb ram and a 1TB harddisk (850GB disk free space)
With SnowLeopard and have run all software updates.
My problem is that mail, safari and firefox are running slow. But as I also have Parelles Desktop 6 I checked my Windows connection, and to my surprice my win explorer is running at normal speed. I then thought it was an issue with my Parallels configuration, but everything is set up with "run MAC faster" and I only dedicate 500mb ram for Windows so I stil have 3,5 GB ram for the MAX OSX.
It is not a boardband issue as I also run a macbookpro on same broardband with no problem.
I have tried to clean the mac with Macclearner and run antivirus. But still the 3 internet broadband programs Safai Firefox and mail through MAC OSX is runnning slow.
I hope someone can help me with fixing toe problem.
Best regards
Mads

Mads,
It's possible your problem is being caused by the very products you are using to prevent problems, in other words the antivirus software and MacCleaner app. OS X does not need any third party maintenance software, in many instances such software tend to create more issues than they solve. I would STRONGLY recommend following the manufacturer's recommendations for removing both apps. Then empty the trash and do some basic trouble shooting using the tools built into OS X. The first thing I'd do is when the computer runs slow already have Activity Monitor open and check to see if a) how much FREE RAM it has and b) look to see if there are any processes using a large %CPU. Your computer should have at least 500MB of FREE RAM at all times. If it runs low that will slow it down. What tends to use a lot of RAM are browsers, if you have lots of tabs open that will eat RAM like crazy. In that situation manage the amount of open tabs and restart the browser.
If you cannot track down the issue the next thing to do is restart in Safe Mode, this will clear some caches. It's possible this is your problem one or more have become corrupted. I had this happen just yesterday, I noticed my system was running very slow and did a Safe Mode restart and bingo it's running like a new computer again.

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I have experienced a drastic slow down lately with loading pages and downloading files. For example, it may take 30 minutes to buffer a YouTube video. Even some pages that are almost entirely text take forever to load.
This seems to be the case regardless of browser (both Safari and Firefox are effected - Sorry, I didn't know where else to post this message). Also, this happens both at home or using other WiFi networks outside. Any advice?

Welcome to the forums!
(First, if yours is an Intel Mac, check that Safari is not running in Rosetta, which is enough to slow it to a crawl.)
Adding DNS codes to your Network Settings, should gives good results in terms of speed-up:
Open System Preferences/Network. Double click on your connection type, or select it in the drop-down menu. Click on TCP/IP and in the box marked 'DNS Servers' enter the following two numbers:
208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220
(An explanation of why that is both safe and a good idea can be read here: http://www.labnol.org/internet/tools/opendsn-what-is-opendns-why-required-2/2587 /
Open DNS also provides an anti-phishing feature: http://www.opendns.com/solutions/homenetwork/anti-phishing/ )
Wikipedia also has an interesting article about Open DNS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDNS
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This is Apple's guidance on iPv6:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.5/en/8708.html
Click on Apply Now and close the window.
Restart Safari, and repair permissions.
If that didn't do it, then try this as well:
Empty Safari's cache (from the Safari menu), then close Safari.
Go to Home/Library/Safari and delete the following files:
form values
download.plist
Then go to Home/Library/Preferences and delete
com.apple.Safari.plist
Repair permissions (in Disk Utility).
Start up Safari again, and things should have improved.
Less likely, but possible, is that the slowness is caused by a Trojan such as the one called 'DNSChanger' or 'OSZ.RSPlug', which can alter the DNS settings of your network connection. This particular Trojan can be inadvertently installed if you have come across certain Quicktime movies where got a window stating that you have to download and install a particular codec in order to see the video.
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http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/33696
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PC does seem to be a bit odd & inconsistent, the few times I've tested with it, at least so far as we content filtering goes; and if I remember rightly, you're not the first to report previously ok settings suddenly preventing some or all internet until pc is switched off altogether.
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callthescribe wrote:
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