SOME SIMPLE QUESTIONS FOR ALL OF YOU

hi,
I have some questions for all of you.
1. Oracle uses cgi (even asp!!! I've seen an asp page somewhere on an Oracle's site but this moment I don't remember where perhaps it is asp->cgi). Why ?
Oracle doesn't support their techologies
(Pl/SQL, Jsevlets,XML) ?
2. Oracle says that has just released a
new product for mobiles called "Portal2Go".
I tried to install this product on NT with OAS 4.8.1.
I had many problems during the installation and after many tries finally I did it(thanks God). but the problems continue...
many Jsp errors (from the "tested" supplied apps). My question is:
a. This product is in an early stage (many installation errors.. just a baby) and I think is stable for Sun Solaris but not on NT.
b. You Oracle "experts" (i.e. oracle staff, NOT YOU guys) tell me ONE advantage to use you product (I'm an oracle developer for 6 years now):
You say that I can PORT my existing app in any device and Web (through XML). This is a joke. Mobiles,PalmPCs,Web etc. have different requirements (content,display etc).The scope is different.. so this is absolutely FALSE (to use a boolean).
This release is user unfrienlty. Why.. tell me WHY to pay for a product and for extra hardware (read the product technical reqs!!) to do the SAME THINK
I do NOW with existing sources.
I've developed an app for my company's employees using existing version of DB (8.0.5),pure pl/sql and a WAP GATEWAY.NOTHING LESS NOTHING MORE.
please answer. Any comment welcomed...
maybe I'm wrong maybe I'm not.
PS.WHERE THE WAP GATEWAY/SERVER IS. I searced the cd and..nothing :-) ?
thanks
thanasis j.a.
B.A. in Informatics
M.Sc. in IS

Portal-to-Go is a wireless portal server, the first version was released November 1999.
The problems you describe that mobiles, Palm devices, etc all have different characteristics is one of the key reasons for Portal-to-Go. It allows any service to be displayed on any device by generating content in an appropriate format for specific devices. This way you can take into consideration the size of the screen, the display characteristics, etc.
It is 'stable' on Solaris and NT, though it is true that the installation procedure of the CD is for Solaris only. The product is not currently available on OTN, so the installer restrictions should have been explained to you when you obtained the CD.
Why Portal-to-Go? Here's three reasons:
1. Inherent problems of the User Interface for a wireless device, so we provide a way personalise the UI to improve navigation and allow commonly used parameters to be saved as stored preferences through the portal.
2. Differences in the characteristics between wireless devices make it hard to support all type without re-creating content and applications for each specific case. With Portal-to-Go, the same service can be accessed from any device.
3. Lack of content available for WAP and other wireless devices. We have tools to quickly create wireless services from existing Web sites as well as an application platform for creating new Java or database applications for wireless devices.
You are correct that the product does not have a WAP gateway.
I'm not sure where you are located, but feel free to contact me offline. I can answer any specific questions, or get you contact with a local Oracle representative.
At the moment, if anyone wants to obtain a copy of Portal-to-Go, you should contact your local Oracle representatives.
Paul

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    Jul 25 02:43:11 teknologism com.apple.collabd.podcast-cache-updater[640]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:102:in `sendRequest'
    Jul 25 02:43:11 teknologism com.apple.collabd.podcast-cache-updater[640]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:153:in `execute'
    Jul 25 02:43:11 teknologism com.apple.collabd.podcast-cache-updater[640]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/../../coreclient/vendor/plugins/podcasts/app/hel pers/podcast_cache_util.rb:23:in `initialize'
    Jul 25 02:43:11 teknologism com.apple.collabd.podcast-cache-updater[640]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/podcast_cache_updater.rb:24:in `new'
    Jul 25 02:43:11 teknologism com.apple.collabd.podcast-cache-updater[640]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/podcast_cache_updater.rb:24
    Jul 25 02:43:11 teknologism com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.collabd.podcast-cache-updater[640]): Exited with code: 1
    Jul 25 02:43:13 teknologism servermgrd[118]: servermgr_postgres: waiting for postgres to respond
    Jul 25 02:43:13 teknologism com.apple.launchd.peruser.89[244] (com.apple.mdworker.pool.0): Throttling respawn: Will start in 3 seconds
    Jul 25 02:43:14 teknologism servermgrd[118]: servermgr_postgres: waiting for postgres to respond
    Jul 25 02:43:15: --- last message repeated 2 times ---
    Jul 25 02:43:15 teknologism servermgrd[118]: servermgr_postgres: Timed out trying to start postgres.
    Jul 25 02:43:17 teknologism mdworker[660]: (Normal) Import: Using too many resources after 64 files (wired: 0 resident: 132970 swapped: 2 regions: 413), hit usage threshold importing /private/var/db/swupd/html/content/downloads/39/44/041-1233/K2dbQDWBvBwvYXpkr5v 3qkvMvqYGq3Y94D/AlKybdFirmwareUpdate.smd.previous, exiting to clean up.
    Jul 25 02:43:19 teknologism servermgrd[118]: servermgr_devicemgr: prepareForOffline: error db:migrate: 1
    Jul 25 02:43:19 teknologism pcastwatcher[479]: Cluster member role changed to LEADER
    Jul 25 02:43:21 teknologism servermgrd[118]: servermgr_postgres: waiting for postgres to respond
    Jul 25 02:43:22 teknologism com.apple.launchd.peruser.89[244] (com.apple.mdworker.pool.0): Throttling respawn: Will start in 5 seconds
    Jul 25 02:43:22 teknologism servermgrd[118]: servermgr_postgres: waiting for postgres to respond
    Jul 25 02:43:23: --- last message repeated 2 times ---
    Jul 25 02:43:23 teknologism servermgrd[118]: servermgr_postgres: Timed out trying to start postgres.
    Jul 25 02:43:27 teknologism mdworker[674]: (Normal) Import: Using too many resources after 64 files (wired: 0 resident: 134078 swapped: 2 regions: 413), hit usage threshold importing /private/var/db/swupd/html/content/downloads/16/52/061-3533/rMnHGtg5jbQBVQFSLzH WnNdVRmZNWgcM3Q/MacBookProEFIUpdate1.3.smd.previous, exiting to clean up.
    Jul 25 02:43:27 teknologism servermgrd[118]: servermgr_devicemgr: prepareForOffline: error db:migrate: 1
    Jul 25 02:43:32 teknologism com.apple.launchd.peruser.89[244] (com.apple.mdworker.pool.0): Throttling respawn: Will start in 5 seconds
    Jul 25 02:43:37 teknologism mdworker[678]: (Normal) Import: Using too many resources after 64 files (wired: 0 resident: 130851 swapped: 2 regions: 413), hit usage threshold importing /private/var/db/swupd/html/content/downloads/40/21/061-5964/S27D5FnWT54LZjFmRFb N46dSTSYhxy8QyG/MacBookSMCUpdate.smd.previous, exiting to clean up.
    Jul 25 02:43:42 teknologism com.apple.launchd.peruser.89[244] (com.apple.mdworker.pool.0): Throttling respawn: Will start in 5 seconds
    Jul 25 02:43:47 teknologism mdworker[296]: (Normal) Import: Using too many resources after 64 files (wired: 0 resident: 132280 swapped: 2 regions: 417), hit usage threshold importing /Users/teknologist/Library/Saved Application State/com.apple.Console.savedState/windows.plist, exiting to clean up.
    Jul 25 02:43:52 teknologism mdworker[683]: (Normal) Import: Using too many resources after 64 files (wired: 0 resident: 132244 swapped: 2 regions: 412), hit usage threshold importing /private/var/db/swupd/html/content/downloads/42/28/061-5258/Nhf7yJ5zHRDgGqW3CrN WPQYvTSxLMykkgP/HP_PrinterSupport.smd, exiting to clean up.
    Jul 25 02:43:58 teknologism mdworker[691]: (Normal) Import: Using too many resources after 64 files (wired: 0 resident: 131620 swapped: 2 regions: 413), hit usage threshold importing /private/var/pgsql/base/16389/17282, exiting to clean up.
    Jul 25 02:44:03 teknologism com.apple.launchd.peruser.89[244] (com.apple.mdworker.pool.0): Throttling respawn: Will start in 5 seconds
    Jul 25 02:44:08 teknologism mdworker[695]: (Normal) Import: Using too many resources after 64 files (wired: 0 resident: 131245 swapped: 2 regions: 413), hit usage threshold importing /private/var/db/swupd/html/content/downloads/63/62/061-3767/swJZDhd67fxx4fY4Pkk QHNvxhQvF6vgyqz/CinemaToolsUpdate4.0.1.smd.previous, exiting to clean up.
    Jul 25 02:44:13 teknologism com.apple.launchd.peruser.89[244] (com.apple.mdworker.pool.0): Throttling respawn: Will start in 5 seconds
    Jul 25 02:44:18 teknologism mdworker[699]: (Normal) Import: Using too many resources after 64 files (wired: 0 resident: 131620 swapped: 2 regions: 413), hit usage threshold importing /private/var/db/swupd/html/content/downloads/16/19/061-3508/LQHLx2HjZkYbPnvsTJZ G9DFP5hLzRqmmG3/FrontRowUpdate1.3.1.smd.previous, exiting to clean up.
    Jul 25 02:44:23 teknologism com.apple.launchd.peruser.89[244] (com.apple.mdworker.pool.0): Throttling respawn: Will start in 5 seconds
    Jul 25 02:44:24 teknologism serveradmin[704]: servermgr_postgres: waiting for postgres to respond
    Jul 25 02:44:26: --- last message repeated 3 times ---
    Jul 25 02:44:26 teknologism serveradmin[704]: servermgr_postgres: Timed out trying to start postgres.
    Jul 25 02:44:26 teknologism serveradmin[704]: posting dist not
    Jul 25 02:44:26 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[154]: /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:42:in `http_put': Couldn't connect to server (Curl::Err::ConnectionFailedError)
    Jul 25 02:44:26 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[154]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:42:in `http_put'
    Jul 25 02:44:26 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[154]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:102:in `sendRequest'
    Jul 25 02:44:26 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[154]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:153:in `execute'
    Jul 25 02:44:26 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[154]:      from notifications.rb:145:in `initialize'
    Jul 25 02:44:26 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[154]:      from notifications.rb:439:in `new'
    Jul 25 02:44:26 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[154]:      from notifications.rb:439
    Jul 25 02:44:26 teknologism com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.collabd.notifications[154]): Exited with code: 1
    Jul 25 02:44:28 teknologism postfix/smtpd[716]: warning: unknown[192.168.176.150]: SASL CRAM-MD5 authentication failed
    Jul 25 02:44:28 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[709]: /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:42:in `http_put': Couldn't connect to server (Curl::Err::ConnectionFailedError)
    Jul 25 02:44:28 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[709]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:42:in `http_put'
    Jul 25 02:44:28 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[709]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:102:in `sendRequest'
    Jul 25 02:44:28 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[709]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:153:in `execute'
    Jul 25 02:44:28 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[709]:      from notifications.rb:145:in `initialize'
    Jul 25 02:44:28 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[709]:      from notifications.rb:439:in `new'
    Jul 25 02:44:28 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[709]:      from notifications.rb:439
    Jul 25 02:44:28 teknologism com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.collabd.notifications[709]): Exited with code: 1
    Jul 25 02:44:28 teknologism com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.collabd.notifications): Throttling respawn: Will start in 9 seconds
    Jul 25 02:44:28 teknologism mdworker[729]: (Normal) Import: Using too many resources after 64 files (wired: 0 resident: 136258 swapped: 2 regions: 414), hit usage threshold importing /private/var/db/swupd/html/content/downloads/46/49/061-4414/KfF9HYN5nxHSkVvYhqf 9JTW3kFs6R3bmgr/MacProGraphicsFWUpdate.smd.previous, exiting to clean up.
    Jul 25 02:44:33 teknologism com.apple.launchd.peruser.89[244] (com.apple.mdworker.pool.0): Throttling respawn: Will start in 5 seconds
    Jul 25 02:44:38 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[732]: /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:42:in `http_put'
    Jul 25 02:44:38 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[732]: : Couldn't connect to server (Curl::Err::ConnectionFailedError)
    Jul 25 02:44:38 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[732]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:42:in `http_put'
    Jul 25 02:44:38 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[732]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:102:in `sendRequest'
    Jul 25 02:44:38 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[732]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:153:in `execute'
    Jul 25 02:44:38 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[732]:      from notifications.rb:145:in `initialize'
    Jul 25 02:44:38 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[732]:      from notifications.rb:439:in `new'
    Jul 25 02:44:38 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[732]:      from notifications.rb:439
    Jul 25 02:44:38 teknologism com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.collabd.notifications[732]): Exited with code: 1
    Jul 25 02:44:38 teknologism com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.collabd.notifications): Throttling respawn: Will start in 9 seconds
    Jul 25 02:44:39 teknologism mdworker[734]: (Normal) Import: Using too many resources after 64 files (wired: 0 resident: 135883 swapped: 2 regions: 414), hit usage threshold importing /private/var/db/swupd/html/content/downloads/15/21/061-7052/gSgFsrpjkJ5vvNrbcsd MwphFYDcTpKWTmC/Savin_PrinterSupport.smd.previous, exiting to clean up.
    Jul 25 02:44:44 teknologism com.apple.launchd.peruser.89[244] (com.apple.mdworker.pool.0): Throttling respawn: Will start in 5 seconds
    Jul 25 02:44:48 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[738]: /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:42:in `http_put': Couldn't connect to server (Curl::Err::ConnectionFailedError)
    Jul 25 02:44:48 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[738]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:42:in `http_put'
    Jul 25 02:44:48 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[738]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:102:in `sendRequest'
    Jul 25 02:44:48 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[738]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:153:in `execute'
    Jul 25 02:44:48 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[738]:      from notifications.rb:145:in `initialize'
    Jul 25 02:44:48 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[738]:      from notifications.rb:439:in `new'
    Jul 25 02:44:48 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[738]:      from notifications.rb:439
    Jul 25 02:44:48 teknologism com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.collabd.notifications[738]): Exited with code: 1
    Jul 25 02:44:48 teknologism com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.collabd.notifications): Throttling respawn: Will start in 9 seconds
    Jul 25 02:44:49 teknologism mdworker[740]: (Normal) Import: Using too many resources after 64 files (wired: 0 resident: 136255 swapped: 2 regions: 413), hit usage threshold importing /private/var/db/swupd/html/content/downloads/22/25/061-6334/r6zDxQxCRGzSsfDfdLN X4hJcGmS7ckVTrT/Aperture2.1.4Update.smd, exiting to clean up.
    Jul 25 02:44:54 teknologism com.apple.launchd.peruser.89[244] (com.apple.mdworker.pool.0): Throttling respawn: Will start in 5 seconds
    Jul 25 02:44:59 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[746]: /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:42:in `http_put': Couldn't connect to server (Curl::Err::ConnectionFailedError)
    Jul 25 02:44:59 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[746]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:42:in `http_put'
    Jul 25 02:44:59 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[746]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:102:in `sendRequest'
    Jul 25 02:44:59 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[746]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:153:in `execute'
    Jul 25 02:44:59 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[746]:      from notifications.rb:145:in `initialize'
    Jul 25 02:44:59 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[746]:      from notifications.rb:439:in `new'
    Jul 25 02:44:59 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[746]:      from notifications.rb:439
    Jul 25 02:44:59 teknologism com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.collabd.notifications[746]): Exited with code: 1
    Jul 25 02:44:59 teknologism com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.collabd.notifications): Throttling respawn: Will start in 9 seconds
    Jul 25 02:44:59 teknologism mdworker[749]: (Normal) Import: Using too many resources after 64 files (wired: 0 resident: 135390 swapped: 2 regions: 413), hit usage threshold importing /private/var/db/swupd/html/content/downloads/09/53/061-4083/DvcrdMLDXTGwQck8TgQ gxWWqGDZJyCvC6X/iMacSoftwareUpdate1.2.1.smd, exiting to clean up.
    Jul 25 02:45:04 teknologism com.apple.launchd.peruser.89[244] (com.apple.mdworker.pool.0): Throttling respawn: Will start in 5 seconds
    Jul 25 02:45:06 teknologism xscertd-helper[323]: idle timer triggered, exiting
    Jul 25 02:45:09 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[757]: /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:42:in `http_put': Couldn't connect to server (Curl::Err::ConnectionFailedError)
    Jul 25 02:45:09 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[757]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:42:in `http_put'
    Jul 25 02:45:09 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[757]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:102:in `sendRequest'
    Jul 25 02:45:09 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[757]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:153:in `execute'
    Jul 25 02:45:09 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[757]:      from notifications.rb:145:in `initialize'
    Jul 25 02:45:09 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[757]:      from notifications.rb:439:in `new'
    Jul 25 02:45:09 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[757]:      from notifications.rb:439
    Jul 25 02:45:09 teknologism com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.collabd.notifications[757]): Exited with code: 1
    Jul 25 02:45:09 teknologism com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.collabd.notifications): Throttling respawn: Will start in 9 seconds
    Jul 25 02:45:09 teknologism mdworker[759]: (Normal) Import: Using too many resources after 64 files (wired: 0 resident: 133619 swapped: 2 regions: 413), hit usage threshold importing /private/var/db/swupd/html/content/downloads/51/53/061-5114/Bsmt5MYcHbnbGDpMnGZ vVFhfcs9vX7PhzB/Numbers_103.smd, exiting to clean up.
    Jul 25 02:45:14 teknologism com.apple.launchd.peruser.89[244] (com.apple.mdworker.pool.0): Throttling respawn: Will start in 5 seconds
    Jul 25 02:45:19 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[773]: /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:42:in `http_put': Couldn't connect to server (Curl::Err::ConnectionFailedError)
    Jul 25 02:45:19 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[773]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:42:in `http_put'
    Jul 25 02:45:19 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[773]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:102:in `sendRequest'
    Jul 25 02:45:19 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[773]:      from /usr/share/collabd/server/ruby/lib/collaboration/service_client.rb:153:in `execute'
    Jul 25 02:45:19 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[773]:      from notifications.rb:145:in `initialize'
    Jul 25 02:45:19 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[773]:      from notifications.rb:439:in `new'
    Jul 25 02:45:19 teknologism com.apple.collabd.notifications[773]:      from notifications.rb:439
    Jul 25 02:45:19 teknologism com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.collabd.notifications[773]): Exited with code: 1
    Jul 25 02:45:19 teknologism com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.collabd.notifications): Throttling respawn: Will start in 9 seconds
    The last few lines go in a loop and they also tend to bring the CPU high unti it's fixed.
    As soon as I turn off "Dedicate Resources to System Services" and I reboot this problem disappears...
    Thanks for any help you may briong.
    Anyway, the server runs perfectly well without that option...

  • For all of you saying you are going to upgrade to a different phone

    You need to realize that you are doing exactly what Verizon wants you to do. They want you to buy new phones and sign new contracts as often as possible. I see people in many of theise threads saying they are waiting for their upgrade or asking for an early upgrade from Verizon to buy an iPhone or an HTC or a phone from any non-Samsung manufacturer. That's what Verizon is hoping you will do. That is why they are not providing you with the service they owe you. They make money every time you do this. 
    While Samsung is certainly at fault here, the even bigger fault has been done by Verizon, whom we all pay large amounts of money monthly for service. Even if you paid full retail price for your Fascinate (which most have not) that is just a fraction of the money you are paying to Verizon. Stop rewarding Verizon by continuing to pay them for service they have not provided. Stop buying new phones and signing new contracts and continuing to let them get rich off of you when they despise you. 
    There are other carriers out there (and all of them are cheaper than Verizon by the way). Verizon has treated it's customers like dirt (and that's the nicest thing I can say). I personally have been treated by Verizon like I am not even a human being and have been repeatedly insulted, lied to, and abused by multiple Verizon employees, not to mention robbed of the services I have paid for. I have been incredibly patient and accomodating and given them every opportunity to do the right thing and at every turn they choose to be the worst they possibly can. This is a company with no conscience - both corporately and as individuals. I have never been treated so badly in my entire life and I have not done a thing wrong here. As a result, I am switching to a different carrier in 3 weeks so that Verizon will never get anymore of my hard-earned money. All of you experiencing these same problems should do the same. 
    Just this week, I have talked 5 people out of getting Verizon service. I consider this a public service and plan to do this every chance I get for the rest of my life. I am not the only person doing this either. Each of the FedEx employees who have delivered my refurbished phones have all told me they would never get Verizon service and advise everyone they know against this. This is because they see Verizon send out broken phone after broken phone after broken phone to the same customers who are without functioning phone service for several months. Also they say that the Verizon customers are always unhappy when they get the delivery but when they deliver for other phone companies, people are usually happy to be getting their phone. 
    Verizon needs to start paying attention. Their own delivery service talks bad about them. Their customers talk bad about them. Their once good reputation had done a 180 in a short period of time. If they don't wake up, they will go the way of other companies that people don't even remember anymore. But they are not going to change a thing as long as you all keep paying them all this money. You're making it profitable for them to screw you over. Only if customers leave them or don't sign up with them in the first place, will they have any incentive to change for the better. Buying a new phone, signing a new contract, or continuing service with them without a contract is just asking for them to treat you and others badly and steal your money.

    I was at a holiday picnic yesterday, and every person there with Verizon phones were having problems and complaining about Verizon. This started when one person was trying to reach his daughter and his phone kept rebooting when placing a call. He asked to borrow someone else's phone and several people in a row told him their phone was useless and to try someone else's. It turned out each one was a Verizon customer and we all started talking. Each one had their own horror stories about Verizon customer service. Several had been with Verizon for over a decade. We are all leaving Verizon. It's not that we think some other carrier is going to be perfect or that phones won't have problems - it's that Verizon has treated each of us in a despicable, inexcusable way and we just can't continue paying them for it.
    Then this morning I was at a coffeeshop and there was a large family sitting at the tables next to me. One of the adult brothers was telling one of the others how his pregnant wife had been having pain yesterday and tried to call him while she waited for the ambulance. She kept getting his voicemail (he had a Fascinate and was missing calls but did not know it until this happened). It was early in the pregnancy and he did not have a pager. He finally got the voicemail after he had to reboot his phone for some other problem. After his wife was found to have a treatable, non-pregnancy-related issue and taken care of, he called Verizon to tell them what happened and to ask for a working phone. The customer service rep said there was no problem with his phone, refused his request, and was heartless and cruel to this man who was worried about his ill pregant wife. Both the brothers and another family member decided right then to go next door to Radioshack and switch to different carriers. Two went with Sprint and the other got a Virgin Mobile phone. The one with the wife is still under contract but said the safety of his family is more important than the fee to cancel his Verizon contract and that he plans to fight that fee based on what he experienced. The rest of the family is going to do the same when their contracts are up and most are going to try to get out of their contract early.
    I keep running into people every day now that are being treated just horribly by Verizon. I used to recommend Verizon to everyone. They used to pride themselves on good customer service. The change in behavior is giving me whiplash. They seem to pride themselves on treating customers as badly as humanly (or inhuman-ly) possible. There is a company-wide policy to lie. They have been instructed to not provide service to customers and not to keep their end of the contract. They have been instructed to milk every cent they can out of every customer no matter the circumstances. They have been given reign to openly abuse customers, not only without consequence, but evidently are encouraged to do so and are backed up by supervisors who pile on their own abuse. I'm in disbelief. For myself, I am just  about 2 1/2 weeks away from freedom, but I still feel deeply for others who feel trapped in this situation and are being mistreated.

  • A Few Serious Questions for ALL Programmers

    I am fairly new to programming ,and ,so far, have only finished 2 programming classes at the college I attend.
    One class was a mix of Program Logic and C++.
    The other was Visual Basic.
    Right now I am in Java 1.
    I absolutely LOVED C++ and Visual Basic, especially the latter.
    I know a lot of people bash VB but I really liked it and I don't know why so many people "Pick on" it.
    Anyway, I finished TOP in my class for VB and am well on my way to finishing top in the Java class.Not because I am a genius, but because I really put alot into it and even the smallest things sometimes takes me hours.
    I sit at my computer and when I get an idea, I usually do not stop until I have it figured out.
    I find the answers most of the time but IT COMES REALLY HARD TO ME!
    The problem I am having is this: When I come here and see some of the sample codes and sample codes that I see elsewhere, like for a " 3D Molecule viewer" I get VERY frustrated because I feel like, to get anywhwere, I will have to be a genius like the people who write such code.
    My fear is that I will only get to be mediocre at best and there will be no place for me in the Programming world...
    I guess what I am really asking is this:If you are a great programmer, like somone who can whip out code for ANYTHING, did you always "Get It" or did it seem like you never would and eventually had an epiphany and "Got It".?...
    Also, how much of programming is about using existing classes and how much is totally writing your own Classes and Methods.
    I know the phrase, "Why re-invent the wheel?" but how much good does it do for me if I parse code all the time?--what are your thoughts on this?

    Not because I am a genius, but because I really put alot into it and even the smallest things sometimes takes me hours. I sit at my computer and when I get an idea, I usually do not stop until I have it figured out. I find the answers most of the time but IT COMES REALLY HARD TO ME!You have hit on a key component here. Your willingness to sit there for hours on end trying and trying and trying. Even then, when it still won't run properly, you get back at it tommorrow and try some more. Many people do not have this patience, and get distracted by the TV, or by their friends, or by their friends and TV ...and they walk away after an hour.
    I too received the highest marks in nearly every class I took at school. Classmates used to say "Ya, but this stuff comes easy to you." No it didn't, I just spend more time with the labs than they did ...thats why I always received the better grades. I appeared to know more, but really I had just made more mistakes than most of my classmates. When it came to the exams, I was like "Oh, I made that mistake last week". My peers, however, had not made these mistakes yet and got tricked into choosing wrong answers on their exams.
    I think programming experience creeps into our brain subconciously while we do it. One day, certain things that once boggled your mind will seem second nature. This comes from just doing it. I think you sound like you are on the right track. And don't worry, even though I know about a few things in Java ...I am constantly in awe of most of the good people I see throughout this forum. Everyone has something to teach, and everyone can always learn something new. What is important is that you don't get discouraged and give up. Now enough of the pep talk, where's my coffee and my compiler. Ah, there they are.
    Good luck and I wish you all the best.

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