Speech Analysis produces duplicated words?? CS6

Every time I use the Speech Analysis tool, at least half of the words in the Analysis Text window are duplicates and I'm having to go in and manually delete the each duplicate...
Any idea why this happens?
Thanks All!
Aza

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All the comments from Adobe about the quality of the voice-recording affecting the accuracy of the text analysis are true, but, as others have noted, when your sound-track has spontaneous speech you cannot always separate one voice from the background, nor have recording-studio quality all the time. In such cases the text that is produced will simply not be accurate enough to use, whether you have attached an accurate script or not. Also, this speech analysis process does not like long pauses between speakers (e.g. if you have any action in your video, this will really mess up the timing of text that is produced).
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I'm able to import a file, enable Analyze, which launches the Encoder, but the results are empty.. nothing shows up.
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Adobe CC on everything, btw ...
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