Stability + boot issue MSI X48C Platinum

Hi,
I'm using my desktop-pc for quite some time now (since august 2008), but it gave me some problems. One of the last problems was a failing RAID-0 array: one of the Seagate Barracuda's 7200.11 640 GB was failing frequently, while it was already 2x replaced by my supplier for a new product. So I figured RAID-0 simply wasn't possible with these drives, at least not a stabile RAID-0 array, so I switched to a Samsung Spinpoint F3 instead.
To the point: it took a while before I finally had enough time to re-assembly the new system with the new hard drive. I managed to install the hard drive and installed Windows Vista Ultimate on it (this week), but after the first boot it appeared the system hanged entirely while being idle in Windows (no errors, just black screen). Other problems are: system doesn't boot frequently. I tried to install a fresh copy of Windows 7 Professional x84 as well, but while the installation files are loaded I barely get to the selection screen for system language (succeeded one time in this, mostly it hangs after/during the installation files are loaded from the disc). The original installation DVD of Windows Vista also couldn't be booted anymore, is Russian roulette how far I get.
Symptons are:
-while trying to boot from bootable USB/DVD, screen goes to black, fan of graphics card accelarates and monitor goes to stand-by
-sometimes during boot system fails, after 3 resets motherboard resets itself. This action still doesn't garantue a succesful boot.
-sometimes the system doesn't boot entirely, just a monitor in stand-by (fans are on, graphics card (HD4870) shows 3 red leds as normal for 1 second)
-if the system boots, and I don't load bootable in DVD-station or USB-ports, Windows is just started as normal most of the times. In Windows, I installed all necessary drivers, tested the graphics card with furmark and with the 9.11 drivers: stabile no artifacts. I played C&C Generals / Anno 1404, just to see if the graphics card could take it without artifacts. Both games work fine, however while in Windows the system hangs after some period of time, could be 30 minutes, could be 2 hours.
-added extra cooling fans aimed at motherboard and graphics card with stock cooler on HD4870 on 100%, just to make sure it was not a cooling issue.
System is:
processor: Intel E8500 E0
mainboard: MSI X48C (AMI 7.3, supports E0 revision of processor)
Memory: Corsair Dominator 4GB PC8500
GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD4870 512MB (reference)
Hard drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB
PSU: Cooler Master Real Power M620 (620 watt)
case: Cooler Master CM690, with 6 120mm case fans (3x Scythe S-Flex 1900 RPM)
Question:
What could possible cause all these problems? I first feared it was something with my graphics card as the monitor went to black entirely and to stand-by (no input signals could be detected anymore) and as the fan of the graphics card accelerates as well), but now I've narrowed it down to:
-mainboard (may explain previous problems with the SATA controller as well, with 3 different hard drives now)
-PSU (strange, as it gets through post and does boot occasionaly)
-memory (could be, will verify if the systems does the same with another DDR2 set later this week, but I don't expect this to be the case)
-CPU (how to damage this CPU at stock speeds, with a properly mounted Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme and a S-Flex 1200 RPM as cooling)

Added to signature.
I first used the Power Supply test of OCCT, which puts a 100% on both the processor and graphics card to simulate the toughest conditions for the PSU. It crashed within 5 seconds. So I tested the system with OCCT v3.1.0, using CPU only: OCCT (testing processor at 100% load). Test ran for 60 minutes: not a single error. So with the two tests combined the system crashes, with only the CPU test the system does not. So I switched to the GPU: OCCT test (testing graphics card at 100% load) for one hour: also no problems after 1 hour testing. 12V dropped a bit during these last tests, but within safety limits I reckon:
Later this week I'm propably ordering a Corsair 520 / 620 / 650 watt model, so I can test with a new PSU. Meanwhile I'll see if the system is stable for longer periods of time, I'm currently trying to verify if it was just bad luck the system freezed within 5 seconds the first time, or if it has to do with other things.
[edit]
Perhaps I should add as well that the environment temperature has been decreased as well here: from 15 degrees Celsius it's not freezing with -4 degrees Celsius outside. Room temperature dropped 5 degrees I guess when I compare the last test circumstances and the current test circumstances. Temperatures of CPU and GPU don't seem to be largely influenced by this, but perhaps the temperatures of the RAM and/or VRM are lower now with other components.
[edit2]
The CPU and GPU test combined (PSU test) gave an error after 5 minutes now, with every component at stock settings (so also stock fan speeds). Retesting with graphics card fan at 100% now. I noticed that there was some variation on the 12V line during the test (within both marges), but from 11.88 to 12.14 volt.

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  • MSI x48c platinum bios? ram? problem

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    Number of cores   2 per processor
    Number of threads   2 per processor
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    Code Name   Wolfdale
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    Package   Socket 775 LGA
    Family/Model/Stepping   6.7.A
    Extended Family/Model   6.17
    Core Stepping   E0
    Technology   45 nm
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    Quote
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    Quote
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    Quote from: ironbird on 07-January-09, 23:26:25
    hey Remus
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    Quote
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    Quote
    SPD programmed at:
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    Quote
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    Quote
    Every part is tested in Corsair's factory at 1600MHz, but your actual results may vary depending on the overclocking margin of your CPU and motherboard.
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    RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 9
    RAS# Precharge (tRP): 9
    RAS# Activate to Precharge: 24
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    Is these the right settings?
    When I run CPUZ again after the changes, its still saying 7 7 7 20.. Also went into the BIOS again, and the settings were set to 9 9 9 24, am I missing out on something here?
    Here is a screenshot of what the menu looks like; http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/mainboards/msi-x48-platinum/timings.jpg (Not my screen)
    I also had to disable STD to get those menu-options.
    So I tried to flash my BIOS instead, but the problem still remains. I used BIOS version 2.4, located here: http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1392 (I used the forum tool btw, works great, thanks alot for that!)
    Also tried to reset the CMOS, run default bios settings...
    By the way, since I'm using DDR3 ram I had to use slot 1, and 3. Because the motherboard supports DDR2 as well.
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