Subcontracting 57f5 challan

Hi,
Sub : subcontracting Scenario
PO has created 10 qty, Goods Issue 15 kg(5 kg Extr), Challan created 15 Kg(Is it possible to
create a challan 10 Qty!)
If 57f5 Challan can create 10 qty, I can recevice 5 kg of Raw material back.
Is it possible!
Regards,
Priya Rathi.

hi
you cannot create challan for 10 Qty.

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Dear,
Here is my understanding, that is if you give 250 nos to subcontractor, he will process and give you 250 nos. This should be you actual PO. Hence if you do GRN for 1 Nos, then consumption at vendor end (543) will also be made for 1 Nos. But, you said your user has maintained the input qty as 450 nos. And subsequently you have also done the GRN's.
If my understanding is correct then do the following:
Delete the material document assignment, which you have done for the first two GRN numbers. In J1ifq.
so that the challan balance qty and status will go back to its original position.
Then cancel the GRN's. All the three. So that all the stocks will go back to vendor location.
Correct the Input- ouput ratio in the purchase order as 1:1. Then do the GRN again and do the reconciliation.
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Here in client place after receiving the (semi finished material) material from the subcontracting vendor quality inspection will be conducted and if the material is rejected in quality inspection that material will be returned to subcontracting vendor and reconciled on same 57F5 challan.
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Note that reconciliation is done only when the components sent by you are used up. Reconciliation is NOT meant for sending the finished/semi finished product back to the vendor. So the system behaviour of not showing you the option to refer the challan in MIGO when you do 122 is correct.
You need to send this material back to the vendor with an excise invoice if the finished/semi finished product is excisable. You will have to either cancel the earlier reconciliation (if any happened) else you will have to reverse the challan to indicate that the component consumption is also reversed. This will create an accounting document. Recredit can be availed when the corrected material is sent back by the subcon vendor.

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Hi,
you are mixing many things.
post/write one by one.
If I understand , You are sending the componenets for serviceing along with 57f4 challan correct ..?
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Hi ,
pls follow this process;
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