Subcontracting & In-house production
Hi PP gurus,
Hope someone can give me some good suggesions.
Material A is produced in-house and is a finished good. The components of A are B & C. The material C which is a semi finished good is procured externally from vendor X. C consists of material D which is produced in-house and supplied to the vendor X. Vendor X uses D to produce C.
The requirement is that when there is a requirement for material A, a planned order should be generated for material D as well during the MRP run. For this requirement, how should the system be mapped and what should be the settings? Can anyone help?
Thanks & Best Regards,
Roshin
Hi Roshin,
As per clarification of master data from you, D is Fert and component of C. For D there is strategy define 11 (Gross req planning).
Now question is you r planning this material as Production plan material like PIR. Just clarify me why u r maintaing strategy at D level. What is customer req?
Suggestion: If D is not plan material then there is no need to maintain strategy.
Regds,
Rajesh
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