Subcontracting of Project stock
Dear Friends,
The scenario is Project based subcontracting.. In brief, I have stock of component material (say Material-A) at Project level. I need to issue these materials to subcontractor. Hence, I am trying to create new movement type (MT Z11, a copy of MT 311) for this requirement with the vendor location as a new storage location. I made a transfer postiing thru MT Z11 'Q'. When I am trying to create a 57F4 challan, I am getting two line items in the subcontracting challan instead of one line item. Where as, if I use MT311 'Q', I am getting only one line Item. Kindly suggest..
Regards,
Phani
hi
please check following settings
SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups > here for Movement Type Group "0001", Movement Type "311 Q" (Z11 Q) should be maintained.
maintain movement type "311 Q" also along with 541.
SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups > here for Movement Type Group "0002", Movement Type "543 Q" should be maintained.
regards
kunal
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Subcontracting with project stock
Hi All,
When using project stock as we cannot issue components to the subcontractor in the subcontracting process we have created a new storage location for the subcontractor. So when the components will be sent to the subcontractor we will move the components from one storage location to the subcontractor's storage location using movement 311 Q.
But how do I get the delivery document that should be sent with these components. Is there a SAP standard way of triggering the delivery documents in this case?
Regards,
V SHi,
In case of subcontracting PO with account assignment for Project, components are directly withdrawn from the project stock at the time of the goods receipt. But if you want to withdraw the components from the stock of material provided to vendor then you can set the collective requirement field in Material Master MRP4 view as Collective requirements only (2), then you can use ME2O.
The collective requirement field has to be set for the components to be provided.
If you work with this setting then you don't need any seperatestorage location the process will behve as normal subcontracting process.
Regards
Chandra Shekhar
Edited by: Chandra Shekhar Singh on Jul 14, 2011 6:48 PM -
Dear Experts
for normal stock subcontracting we use
MB1B-541, J1IF01, MIGO-105, J1IFQ, J1IF13(Close).
Please advise me can we adopt this process for Project Stock(WBS) or there is any other process for project stock subconracting.
please guide.
regards
ParkashIn this case along with Item category L you need to use AAC P,Q,N , Check below link for details,
[Subcontracting of Project Stock|http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/index?rid=/library/uuid/402891a3-7f89-2c10-3097-91556442b8b5]
[Project stock subcontracting|Re: Subcontracting of Project Stock] -
Dear SAP Guru,
In my organization, the business requirement is to use subcontracting process for project.
I maintain the movement type 311 Q for subcontracting process, but at the time of reconciliation of subcontracting Challan, the system does not refer the stock transfer material docuement.
Movement type 541 (for subcontracting) does refer the project stock.Hi,
Subcontracting for Project Stock: -
Purpose: - Subcontracting is also possible in conjunction with Project stocks. The subcontracting orders are account-assigned to a Project. Thus, the components are not transferred (using a transfer posting) to the "stock of material provided to vendor" but are directly withdrawn from the Project stock the time of the goods receipt. The material manufactured is also posted to the Project stock.
The cost of subcontracting is then debited to the Project.
Since the components are not transferred to the "stock of material provided to vendor", it is recommend that you use a transfer posting to transfer the provided components to a new storage location (for example, 9999). This enables you to obtain an overview of those stocks that are physically located at the subcontractor. This information is particularly important when you carry out a physical inventory of the Project stocks.
Features: -
Withdrawal from Stock of Mat. Provided or Project: -
For components that are managed in Project stock, you can define whether the components are to be withdrawn directly from each Project or from the stock of material provided to vendor. You manage this via the dependent requirements indicator for individual customer requirements and collective requirements (MARC-SBDKZ).
You can maintain this indicator in the following places:
In the MRP view of the material master record (MRP 4)
In the explosion types for the BOM item (in Customizing for Production in the step Basic Data -> Bill of Material -> Item Data -> Define explosion types)
Configuring the explosion types has priority over the configuration in Inventory Management.
If the indicator is set at Collective requirements only (2), the materials are withdrawn from the stock of material provided to vendor. If this indicator is set any other way, the system withdraws materials from Project stock.
Here all the processes will remain same except; MB1B - Do Transfer Posting of material from RM Warehouse to this Storage Location via movement type "311 Q" (Instead of doing 541) -
Subcontracting with valuated project stock
Hi All,
We are using MM subcontracting process with project assignment.We have valuated project stock.
When I try to execute transaction ME2O for issuing components to subcontractor I do not get the PO with project assignment. I only get the PO if there is no object assigned in the PO i.e. account assignment category is blank in PO.
Am i missing something here or is this SAP standard?
Regards,
V S
Edited by: V S on Jun 30, 2011 4:15 PMHi,
Please check the following link. This explains how you can manage Subcontracting Process with Project Stock.
[http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/index?rid=/library/uuid/402891a3-7f89-2c10-3097-91556442b8b5]
Hope it helps,
Best regards
Amit Bakshi -
Subcontracting multiple BoM levels for Project Stock
Hi,
We are an engineer / make-to-order manufacturer, so we use a lot of "individual" type materials (instead of collective). We are trying to subcontract several BoM levels of work to different vendors, and we are seeing many false requirements.
So we have something like this (this is all in project / wbs element stock):
Make hereSubcontract Requisition
Make hereRaw material
Subcontract Purchase OrderMake here
Raw material
Raw material
Make hereRaw material
The subcontracting items are driving additional false MRP requirements (planned orders and purchase requisitions) for all the raw materials under them.
I figured out how to fix the subcontract on level 3 by transferring the HALB material from project stock to unrestricted stock (411Q), then transferring it to subcontract stock (541) (Is there a better way to do this? Now I can't see my project-specific stock line for that item). But, while that purchase order is still open, there's nothing I can transfer to make the extra, false requirements disappear. Also, I am getting an MRP exception telling me to cancel the PO because it doesn't see the dependent requirement for the subcontract requisition above it.
Does this question make sense? How can we fix it? I need to get that subcontract requisition to see that its material will come from the subcontract purchase order.
Thanks!
TimothyHi All,
Any thoughts or ideas?
Thanks very much,
Timothy -
Project stock material for subcontracting
Hi,
I want to send project stock material (special stock with 'Q') for subcontracting vendor. Pl elaborate the procedure.
Subcontracting PO is with account assignment category 'Q'.
Pl revert.Hello Sachin
We had similar requirement but in a different way. i.e sending material for subcontracting work for materials returned by customers getting it reworked bringing the reworked material back to plant stock and then sending to customer.
We had used alltogether different transactions ADSUBCON is the transaction code. Prerequsite is you will have to implement BADI BADI_ADSUB_MVT_TYPES of enhancement specefe ES_BADI_ADSUB_MVT_TYPES.
Regards -
Sale Order Subcontracting & Vendor wise stock
Dear Gurus,
I have one doubt we are doing sale order subcontracting transfer posting by 311 E to vendor. so is it really need to create vendor wise storage locations to track the stock at vendor end, as we have no. of vendors for subcontracting and storage location is part of organization structure.
so is it advisable to go like that ? or please suggest me any other way to track the stock at vendor end sale order wise.
Thanks & regards,
AkshayHello Sir ,
As it is not possible to send material which are already in special stock (sale order stock ) to subcontractor by 541 movement type , it is recommended to transfer by 311 E my MB1B or MIGO...
while doing good receipt 101 E and 543 E will going to happen , for 543 E system will automatically ask storage location. i have done already this but there only one subcontractor was there,
and in this client we have more than 80 subcontractor so i am hesitating to do this....
Subcontracting for Sales Order Stock and Project Stock - Managing Special Stocks (MM-IM) - SAP Library
Sale Order Subcontracting & Vendor wise stock -
ME2O report with special stock assignment (project stock)
Dear Guru's
Im tring to use ME2O report to monitor the stocks of subcontracting. In my business we have special stocks (project stocks).
When I run the report it does not give the subcontracted stocks with project assignment.
Am I doing something wrong or is there any otherway to achive this. I want to monitor the subcontractor stocks (with special stock assignment of project)
Thanks in advance
Rupeshcan you explain this scenario a bit more
subcontracting stock is stock type O, project stock is stock type Q
I dont think one stock can have 2 stock types
And ME2O is monitoring stock type O, not Q. -
Dear Experts,
I am working on a scenario- details given below
1. Purchase requisition from Network as Preq + WBS for raw material with stock type L
2. PR Converted to PO and then GR is done ( Raw Material)
3. PR raised through Network as N- PR converted to PO and issued to contractor with a subcontractor material
4. Material received through GR is transfered to subcontractor
5. Material issued to contractor is consumed through a GR ( PO for service material and not raw material).
What i have found out is Cost is not hitting project when GR is done to Raw material PR but it comes in project only when there is a Consumption from subcontracting GR.
Please let me know what should happen as best practise at this stage
Is it- Cost should flow to Project when 101 Q happens
or
Cost should flow to Project only when 543 O is done
Currently movement types are in this manner
101 Q then 411 Q and 411 Gnst and then 541 to contractor and later consumed through 543.
Please give you valuable comments.Hi
Check in MRP-4 view for "individual/coll" field. It will be 2. that is collective requirement. If it is done then only you can issue material subcontractor when you use project system.Then only it uses 543- O to consume from vendor stock. If you don't keep "individual/coll" field as blank then soncumption will happen via 543Q.That is project stock. So you will not be able to do 541 to send material to vendor.
Coming to Point.
Look at your step 2. PR to PO and GR.. It will go to normal plant stock because of 2 maintained in "individual/coll" field.Movement type 101 will be used. Not 101 Q. So cost will not flow to WBS at that point of time.
But it comes in project only when there is a Consumption from subcontracting GR because header material MRP-4 view will not have "individual/coll" field 2.
It is standard process in project system module subcontract
Regards
Antony -
Movement type for issuing materials from project stock to vendor
Hello gurus,
after making GRN, the stock is updated in Project stock. now from the project stock, i want to issue the materials to vendor. which MvT i have to use and where it displays the Vendor. i need to track the materilas provided to vendor.
tnx in advance
PurushothamHi,
Here you are talking about Subcontracting Scenario.
If you need to transfere the project stock to vendor, then you will need to do 2 steps:
1. Transfer the Project stock to own (unrestricted use) stock. (411 Q)
2. Transfer the Own stock to vendor. (541)
Regards
Vishal -
Operation Subcontracting involving special stock
Hi All,
We have a business scenario as below.
Operation Subcontracting process involved in a Project. The Components send to Vendor is a project stock. As already there a Special stock Indicator, we cannot send the material to Subcontractor. Any integration with PP-MM is possible ?What is the best solution for such situation?
Regards
DivyaIS the component is in project stock, then You can send to subcontractor, check Whether the stock is in project stock, or unrestricted,
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Dear All,
Could you please let me know whether is it possible to sell the material which is in project stock directly by creating a sales and assigning the WBS element to it for the actual revenue.
This is for subcontracting process, wherein the material will be as project stock and if required for some reasons by the vendor who provides service to the project, the material should be supplied with a margin.
The material requisition is triggered from the project and the purchase order is created with reference to the purchase requisition and brought into project stock. Then the sales order is created and the WBS element is assigned to the sales order. The material which is in project stock is created as line item in the sales order to sell to the vendor as customer. In this case, the material is not recognised while delivery is performed for the sales order.
Request you all to validate the process.
Thanks and Regards,
Arun.AnDear,
I have tried with CNS0 also, the cost is being booked to the project not the revenue!!
Regards,
Arun.AnThe issue -
Project stock Material Sell to Customer
Dear Gurus,
I Created the Project , WBS Element, Activities,WBS BOM.
Then Raw material procurement process, Subcontracting process, Production order for the Finished material to get the Stock has been covered under the Project.
So now I have a Project stock at my Plant of say 10 Quantity..
Now I want to sell the same Stock material to One of the Customer ( Who developed this Project material). The revenue should be covered in the Project itself. How can I proceed for this.
As for as I know I have done customization in OPSB -- Automatic Revenue planning & assigned the Account & selecte the check box for Sales order.
I created the Sales order & assigned the WBS Element in the account assignment tab, then I did the Delivery in VL01N then when I am doing the billing for this delivery I am getting the error Item is not relevant for billing.
How to go about this. Please provide the process how to sell the Project stock material to Customer with Revenue generation from Project.
rgds
gscOhh come on...
Just mark the WBS as a billing element.
Go to change project... select the required wbs and check the Billing element indicator. -
Problem with project stock valuation class
Dear All,
We have an issue regarding the Revenue Inventory and Capital Inventory. There is a certain balance amount which should be in capital but system is showing in Revenue and vice versa.
The reason for this is that when the material was created, in some materials the main valuation class was 3032(Project) and in some it was maintained as 3030(revenue). But project stock valuation class was not maintained.
Now the problem persists in the G/L balances, the G/L of project stock (132006)displays some amount of revenue(132000) and vice versa.
We tried to maintain the project stock valuation class (3032) for materials for which the main valuation class is 3030 (Revenue),but still the G/L for revenue (132000) is getting hit.
At the end, the requirement is that G/L for revenue (132000) should hit when revenue procurement is there and G/L for capital (132006) should hit when capital procurement is there.
Kindly suggest the way forward.
Regards,
HarshThanks Venkat, we have thought of the same as a last stop but there are hundreds of materials which has this problem and there would be many open documents for them.
If anything could be suggested other then this, and I wanted clarification on one more point that the materials for which main valuation class was 3030 and later we added 3032 in project stk Val class but after maintaining it. When we procure(Capital procurement), it is still showing the balance in G/L 132000(Revenue).
Regards,
Harsh
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