Subcontracting with Items Sold to Vendor
Hi SAP Experts,
We have a scenario wherein we subcontract service/s from a certain vendor. But instead of providing the materials, we are selling the items to the vendor. We do this since we cannot issue the exact quantity of the items to the vendor (i.e. thread for sewing) and we cannot track the usage of such materials when issued to the subcontractor. Is there a way for us to handle such scenario in SAP? Please help.
Thanks in advance!
if you sell the components to your vendor, then this is a pure and standard SD process.
In purchasing you create as well only a standard order for the finished good. The price will include service and components costs.
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I have to input into Subcontrating Purchase order a new line to represent the material applied by vendor. The problem of this scenario is that I must put the value of this material applied(second line of PO) as part of costs of main item.
I could not use condition at pricing to simulate this into the MIRO.
Does anyone know this scenario ? How could I do that in this way ?
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AleHi dear Charlie !
thx for your reply !
Well I could not use delivery costs conditions at pricing because after that I must use by one brazilian fiscal requirement use the additional item at PO to open at "Nota fiscal" that is a fiscal document valid here in Brazil , and I use it on MIRO.
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Delete purchase requisition with item category Subcontracting
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I am using already BAPI_REQUISITION_DELETE to delete other purchase requisitions but for the subcontracting it doest not work. In fact in the BAPI code you can see:
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I am looking for the way to create an Purchase requisition automatically from a sale order with Item Category "L" Subcontracting.
I tried but it is creating a PR with Item category "S" Third Party.
Can any body tell me where I am missing.
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LekhramHi,
From the sales order look at your schedule lines to find which Schedule Line category is being called for your master data and document type of Sales Order.
Go to config for schedule line category and change the item category assigned in its details. This item category is not to be confused with your SD item category. This one is of purchase requisition that gets generated from SO# in the case of Third party.
IMG> Sales and Distribution>Sales>Schedule Lines>Define Schedule Line Categories
It would be 5 - Third Party. Change it to 3 - Subcontracting.
Reward if helpful.
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even i m unable to change the item cat of pur req while editing it so pls tell me how to config to create pur req with item cat L after dooing mrp run.
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ujwalHi
Have you set the master data's for sub contracting process?
Following Master Data should be in place;
u2022 MM01- Material Masters for Components and FG
u2022 XK01 - Vendor Master (Subcontractor)
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u2022 ME11 - Purchase Info record for Subcontracting info catergory
Me01- Source list
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Problem while subcontracting with acct assgt category 'Q'
Hi,
We have a Subcontracting PO with item
category 'L' and account assignment
category 'Q'. While goods reciept
against PO, for 543 it is taking project
stock(Q) from storage location instead
of vendor stock(O).Please provide the
solution(with CIN details, 57F4 challan creation and reconcillation)
or is there any other process to handle this?
Regards,
ShivDear
you kept account assignment catagory blank & process ahead.
may ur problem saolved
Amin -
Hi,
Can anybody send me step by step configuration of subcontracting with delivery to my mail id:[email protected]
The following is my scenario.
We are sending raw materials to one vendor in batches.And in turn that vendor will send back the finished goods to the company.It is an urgent please.
Thanks in advance
kumar
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MANUPATI KUMARHi,
First Create BOM in Transaction code: CS01, for your Finished product which you want to procure from the SC Vendor........in items you can give the Raw materials you are providing to SC Vendor.....Very Importanly, for the component you want to send to SC Vendor also should have the Sales view....then only the Shipping point determination and all takes place...
Then in Transaction code ME11, create Sub Contracting Inforecord
Then in OLME-->Purchase Order>Set up Sub Contract Order--
> For your Plant from where you are shipping the material to SC Vendor, Assign Delivery type LB....
Then for your Suppling Plant Sales Area, Create one Customer master and in that customer master assign your SC Vendor in General Data->Control Data Tab>In Vendor Field and In Sales Area Data-.> Shipping Data tab--
>Maintain entries in Delivery Priority,Shipping Conditions,Delivering Plant fields.
Then Create SC Purchase Order with Item catogary "L"....In Item details--->Material Data Tab--
.>Components, you can view the details of the material you have to send to SC Vendor.... then save the PO
Then Goto, Transaction Code, ME2O, choose the component and choose create Delivery....then Delivery no will be created.....then you goto VL02n and do the PGI...The components will be automatically transferred to SC Vendor in 541 movement type...
After completion of work, you can do GR Normally...
Hope I have explained in detailed manner
Reward if useful
Regards
S.Baskaran -
Subcontracting with slaes order
hi i want to know
how can we do the subcontracting with sales order
i got a process using 311 e movemnt when i search on SDN
plz let me know if this process is correct how can i have subcon challan
Subcontracting scenario(Sale Order wise)
Subcontracting For Sales order.
Subcontract Account assigned PO
how can i create storage loc as vendor
plz help
regards
rajHi,
Subcontracting for Project Stock: -
Purpose: - Subcontracting is also possible in conjunction with Project stocks. The subcontracting orders are account-assigned to a Project. Thus, the components are not transferred (using a transfer posting) to the "stock of material provided to vendor" but are directly withdrawn from the Project stock the time of the goods receipt. The material manufactured is also posted to the Project stock.
The cost of subcontracting is then debited to the Project.
Since the components are not transferred to the "stock of material provided to vendor", it is recommended that you use a transfer posting to transfer the provided components to a new storage location (for example, 9999). This enables you to obtain an overview of those stocks that are physically located at the subcontractor. This information is particularly important when you carry out a physical inventory of the Project stocks.
Features: -
Withdrawal from Stock of Mat. Provided for Project: -
For components that are managed in Project stock, you can define whether the components are to be withdrawn directly from each Project or from the stock of material provided to vendor. You manage this via the dependent requirements indicator for individual customer requirements and collective requirements (MARC-SBDKZ).
You can maintain this indicator in the following places:
In the MRP view of the material master record (MRP 4)
In the explosion types for the BOM item (in Customizing for Production in the step Basic Data -> Bill of Material -> Item Data -> Define explosion types)
Configuring the explosion types has priority over the configuration in Inventory Management.
If the indicator is set at Collective requirements only (2), the materials are withdrawn from the stock of material provided to vendor. If this indicator is set any other way, the system withdraws materials from Project stock.
Regarding Subcontracting Challan: -
Go to OMJJ, select the field "movement type" and press enter
Enter movement type "311" and double click on "Field selection (Enjoy)" under Dialog Structure on left side.
here "New Entries" and add field "LIFNR" (Vendor)
Now in MIGO, at the time of transfer posting of components using movement type "311 Q", specify the vendor code of the Subcontracting PO (i.e. Subcontractor)
Now create Subcontracting Challan in J1IF01 for material document of 311 Q movement type.
Also check in SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups > here for Movement Type Group "0001", Movement Type "311 Q" should be maintained.
Then do GR against PO and refer the Subcontracting Challan here.
And then do reconciliation in J1IFQ for the GR Document against Subcontracting Challan.
Also check in SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups > here for Movement Type Group "0002", Movement Type "543 Q" should be maintained.
Follow the below mentioned process;
Process Steps: -
1. OX09 - Create Storage Location as "9999" for Subcontractor Location
2. MB1B - Do Transfer Posting of material from RM Warehouse to this Storage Location via movement type "311 Q" (Instead of doing 541)
3. Now go to J1IF01 - here use material document of movement type "311 Q" and create Subcontracting challan. (If required)
Prerequisite: - In SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups > Here for Movement Type Group "0001" (For issues), maintain movement type "311 Q" also along with 541.
Rest all, refer subcontracting challan during GR and then reconciliation and completion, etc... will be same as usual.
Note: - At the time of GR, consume components from storage location "9999" (for 543 movement type) -
Subcontracting with Partial material
Hello All,
We are in CIN ECC 6 SAP , and have one requirement in subcontracting process , company is providing input materials to the subcontractor , in some situations the input material is sent partial (due to less stock in company)to the subcontractor and in turn the vendor puts his own material and returns backs the items , since the vendor iincludes his materials , he has to provide excise or tax for that particular material. how can be this addressed in subcontracting process? since in BOM we will not include the materials what he has put.
Thanks in advance
BennyHi Benny
you create a seperate line item with item cat L only for the material you are not supplying the components and flag the SC flag in the delivery address tab of your PO along with the vendor number of your subcontractor.
If Vendor is charging the cost of the component as Subcontracting fee then you can DO GR directly. other wise you have to do a GR seperately.
Cheers
Chris -
Subcontracting with Serial Number
Dear all,
The scenario I am facing is as follows:
We require to send out an item which has a serial number (lets say item A) for a subcontracting job (painting). Besides sending out the item we also send the paint non serialized (item P) required for the job. However the item A is a non valuable stock item. I am not sure how to go about carrying out subcontracting process in this case. In the end, we will receive back item A with the same serial number as the one which we issued out.
At the moment, what I have done created a subcontracting PO, with Item A mentioned as the item in the PO with Acct. Assgn K and Item Cat. L. In the components for the job I have assigned item P and Item A. I have carried out Goods Issue via ME2O transaction. Everything looks fine upto here. I have checked the movements in the goods issue process for both items. The movement carried out is 541 O. However, now when I am doing the goods receipt in MIGO for item A, it gives the following error:
Serial number 560000008 cannot be used here
System status ESTO is active (EQU 10000105)
I have checked the serial number in iq03 and there it also says the stock type as O as in Stocks provided to vendor, however the status of the serial number is still ESTO. I was hoping the system would change the status of the serialized item while the 541 movement was carried out.
I have manually then changed the status of the serial number from ESTO to ECUS in iq02.
Now I am facing another situation where I can't use the same serial number in the Goods Receipt for the same 101 movement as well as the 543 O movement in the same transaction.
Is this process correct or am I doing something wrong here? Please help.
Regards,
G .Coelho
Edited by: Godwin Coelho on Sep 26, 2010 10:51 AMDear Gurus
Please provide some inputs for the same -
Dear all,
Can anyone tell me the method of creating PO with BOM
i mean what are the additional fields should be maintained in Material Master???
How to create Material BOM using Tcode CS01??
Is CS01 Tcode is for to create for maintaining Bill of Materials for a Finished product??
pls tell me in detail step by step to Create BOM and subcontracting BOM
Thanks a lot in advance??Sub Contracting Cycle
(1) You have a material that can be procured externally, and you have maintained BOM with components. Any waste generated and received during subcontracting process can be maintained as component with negative quantity.
(2) You create a subcontracting PO (PO with Item Category L). You can also maintain Purchase Info Record for Subcontract category for material and subcontractor.
(3) You make a transfer posting to issue components for SC PO. Material is sent to subcontractor. As material remains under your ownership, system does not make any value entry. But quantity is shown as "Material Provided to Vendor"
(4) You receive finished material against SC-PO. You also specify components consumed in manufacturing of finished goods. Additionally, if you have negative components in BOM, now you'll also receive subcontracting by-products. There are three events, so three accounting entries are generated:
DR FG Stock/ SC By-Product Stock
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(for finished goods received)
DR Subcontracting Charges
CR GR/IR Clg
(for moneys payable to Subcontractor)
DR Consumption (Components)
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(material provided to Vendor is now charged to expense)
(5) You do the IV for SC Invoice, and the process is complete.
Process of Subcontract in MM
Sub-contract business process:
You want to buy material from the supplier (processed material/ assembled item) , but for some reason (quality of certain item / price ) you will give some component to vendor .
Vendor shall process the item / use the item provided & supply the final item.
SAP process:
1.Create the finished goods material code.
2.Maintain the BOM for the material.
3.Create PO with item category as "L" .
4.Issue material to vendor with movement type 541
5.Receive the material against the PO with movement type 101.
6.MIRO to account for vendor's invoice for the service charge& material used by him.
Can anybody tell me how a process has to be given to subcontracting?
Suppose, I have 3 operations 1)weaving 2)dyeing 3)cutting & packing
if no 2 process (i.e Dyeing) has to be given to subcontracting, what process should i follow ?
The following process to be followed for subcontracting.
1. Item code(material master) to be created at the stage of before dyeing.
2. Item code(material master) to be created after Dyeing as subcontracted item.(F30)
3. Bill of material to becreated for the material(2) calling for material(1)
4. Inforecord and source list to be created for material(2) with the corresponding vendor
5. PO to be released for material (2)
6.Along with PO the material(1) to be issued to vendor
7.On receipt of material when GR is made the stock with vendor will get updated.
How to Create a Subcontract Order?
To create a subcontract order, proceed as follows:
Enter the material you want to order and the item category for subcontracting (L) in the order item.
Press ENTER to display the screen for component processing.
Enter the components that the vendor requires to manufacture the product.
Please note:
You do not need to enter the date required for the components. This date is proposed by the system when you press ENTER.
It is calculated as follows:
Delivery date of the item - Planned delivery time
If you do not want the quantity of the components to be changed if the order quantity of the end product is altered, set the indicator Fixed quantity (column F).
You can determine whether the components are available on the date required by selecting Edit -> Availability check.
If you entered a bill of material as the material in the subcontract order, the components are created automatically.
If you want to determine the components in the bill of material at a later date (for example, if the bill of material is subsequently changed), choose Item -> Component -> New BOM explosion. The existing components are deleted and redetermined in the bill of material.
Save the purchase order.
When you print the purchase order, the components are printed per order item
Subcontracting - Key Points
Special Procurement Process.
Item category: L
Order type: NB
In info record vendor should be maintained as subcontractor.
Vendor (Subcontractor) receives the components used to manufacture a finished product directly from your company or through third party.
Your company should place a purchase order for the finished product. In this manually you can enter the required individual components or it can be determined via the explosion of BOM (if exists).
Stock check at vendor level: ME2O
Company stock check: MMBE
GR for individual components through movement type: 501 or 561 (if with out PO or without reference).
GI to subcontracting vendor: through movement type 541.
GR from sub contracting vendor: through movement type: 101
Movement type 543 is displayed to cancel the material cost account.
If the subcontracting order has to be generated through materials planning,the special procurement key has to be set in MRP 2 screen.
- To create the Subcon Info Record : Tcode ME11 - Info Category - Click Subcontracting
- To create Material BOM : Tcode CS01
- With the Info and Material Setup, you can then create the Purchase Order in Tcode ME21N
Regards
Ravi -
Is It possible for a Non Shippable Inventory Item sold in OM update INVENTORY Levels
Is It possible for a Non Shippable Inventory Item sold in OM update INVENTORY Levels?
I have created an Item which is inventory tracked but not shippable. Customer & Internally Ordered. But upon booking the Sales Order, the INVENTORY level of the said item does not get updated with the sale.
How can i make it update INVENTORY without going thru shipping module?
thanks.Hi Jay
How are you.
Yes, in process sampling only.
Is it not neccessary to have a wip validity rule for wip products in the specs. I am able to create samples for wip products with inventory validity rule.
Regards
Prem. -
Hi friends,
The issue my user is having is that he has created a subcontracting PO ...and later while issuing thro MB1b 541... the system throws an error... PO HAS NO ITEMS..
But PO has a BOM exploded ...when i check it has item category T instead of an L... By the time i could check CS03, the user has deleted the BOM .,so i suggested to create a new one with item category L...The issue got resolved.
But my doubt is how this item category T has appeared in the BOM, since when i try creating a BOM with T i cannot enter matl code but my BOM which had popped in the PO had all details with matl code, desc , qty and item category as T..
Pls kindly advise and help me understand..
Thanks
nanduWhen creating your material BOM with Item category T, do not enter the material number.
Only enter decripiton qty. and uom. This should allow you to create the BOM. You would then see this BOM in your Sub-Contract PO. I don't think it was possible you saw the material item in the BOM from your original T category items, as this would not be allowed per standard functionality, as you noted when trying to recreate the incorrect BOM. -
To fill in the material number with item category u201CBu201D for Framework Order.
The use of framework orders (also referred to as blanket purchase orders) enables you to procure a variety of materials or services from a vendor up to a predefined maximum value (the value limit).
Instead of a specific delivery date, you specify a validity period for the order.
Goods receipts or the entry and acceptance of services performed are not necessary in the case of a framework PO and limit items.
The invoices are posted directly with reference to the purchase order, provided that the specified value limit is not exceeded. When the value limit of the PO is reached, or the validity period is exceeded, the system issues a warning message. It is possible to book the invoices, but these are blocked for payment.
During the phase of service performance, the cumulative u201Cactual" values (for the services actually performed) are continually updated in the underlying purchase. This enables you to monitor the progress of a procurement project on an ongoing basis. By comparing the "actual" value with the total value, you can always obtain an overview of the degree to which a budget for unplanned services or materials has been exhausted (i.e. see whether predefined limits have been reached or nearly reached).
So with the Framework Order type (FO) and item category u201CBu201D you get the error that it is not allowed to fill in the material number with item category u201CBu201D.
Please suggest me the possible solution to fill in the material number with item category u201CBu201D for Framework Order.
Best Regards,
HarishaThe Framework order type is specialy defined for lesser value procurements (ex: stationeries, cleaning services ....) which are all not worthy to create Material Master at all.
If you are very sure to fill the Material number, then proceed with some other document type.
In what circumstances you want to put material number in FO order?
Karthi.
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