Subsequent debit

Dear experts
Below is my company scenario,
We did the GR in reference of PO in Dec.
but now we received a Debit note (stated 1 material is free of charge).
SAP only allow us to post LIV followed by Debit note. but the problem is that vendor only gave us the debit note instead of invoice.
Any idea how to resolve this issue?
Thanks in advance.

Hi,
you are trying to post subsequent credit for the PO for which you have not posted the invoice .That is why you are getting this error.
It is mandatory that inovoice must have posted prior to post subsequent debit/credit .In your case you have not posted any invoice ,then you have to use direct posting option to post directly to material or GL account
or First post invoice then post subsequet credit .
hope it clarifies

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Subsequent debit - different behaviour for PO based IR and GR based IR

Hy Guys,
i am facing currently a problem with my understanding of system behaviour for GR Based Invoice Verification in combination with Subsequent Debit Postings...
Example 1 - System Behaviour in case of PO based Invoice Verification:
PO with 3000 PC Material XYZ / Price 10 EUR
Goods Receipt for all 3000 Pieces
Goods Issue for 2000 Pieces
Situation is now:
Valuated Material XYZ with Stock Quantity 1000 PC / MAP 10 / Stock Value = 10.000 EUR
Subsequent Debit Posting for 300 EUR / 3000 PC
Result is that Stock Account is debited with 100 EUR / Price Difference with 200 EUR
New Situation is:
Valuated Material XYZ with Stock Quantity 1000 PC / MAP 10,1 / Stock Value = 10.100 EUR
This makes sense to me!!!
Example 2 - System Behaviour in case of GR based Invoice Verification:
PO with 3000 PC Material XYZ / Price 10 EUR
Seperate Goods Receipt for 1000 PC - three times
Goods Issue for 2000 Pieces
Situation is now:
Valuated Material XYZ with Stock Quantity 1000 PC / MAP 10 / Stock Value = 10.000 EUR
Subsequent Debit Posting for 300 EUR / 3000 PC
Result is that Stock Account is debited with 300 EUR (But there are only 1000 PC currently on stock!!!!! - System thinks there are 3000 on stock....)
New Situation is:
Valuated Material XYZ with Stock Quantity 1000 PC / MAP 10,3 / Stock Value = 10.300 EUR
In that case i think system behaviour is wrong, because MAP increased to much.
Any comments? Is this customizable?
Thanks!
BR;
Gregor

Hi Gregor,
Wellcome to SCN. Please, see SAP Note 308008 - FAQ: Posting logic: GR/IR clearing account, and related notes.
Regards
Eduardo

Subsequent delivery and subsequent debit

Dear All,
material type: NLAG
account assignemnt (PO): cost center, non valuated GR
Scenario:
1. GR (MIGO) - material_document1, qty 100
2. IR (MIRO) - invoice1 for material_document1, qty 100
> vendor makes correction because qty is more or less than the original
3. GR (MIGO) - material document2 - qty 20 (sum qty for PO item is 120)
4. IR (MIRO) - subsequent_debit1 for 20 pcs
These connections / links should exist:
Material_document1 - invoice1
Material_docuemt2 - subsequent_debit1
My question
How can I solve this? Is it posible to book the subsequent debit with reference to material_docuement2?
If I create the subsequent invoice it is valid only for material_document1 EVEN IF I do material_document2 as SUBSEQUENT DELIVERY in MIGO (in this case the two material documents are connected). SAP expects an additional invoice for material_document2 (but it is linked to material_docuement1!).
In my opinion it cannot be solved since the debit/credit memo refers to the "original" material document (1) and invoice (1).
Thanks,
Csaba
My question was a little bit incoherent...
I wanted SAP to suggest the to-be-credited qty&value automatically in case of returns to vendor - but it's not possible in standard system as per my best knowledge .
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Mar 4, 2009 9:18 PM
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Mar 4, 2009 9:22 PM

Hi Bala krishnan,
when there is a price difference this entry would takes place. while reversing the same should be reversed, in your case the system is posting to another account.
please check the account key against the wrong line item ( this you can see with the help of changing layout), then goto OBYC and check the gl accounts assigned against that. To check either it is right or wrong compare with the standard/default company codes settings i.e 0001 co.cd.
Thanks & Regards,
Shashi Kanth.

Import PO subsequent Debit: Taxes not calculated as per tax Code in MIRO

Dear All,
I am facing the problem while taking Subsequent debit (MIRO) of Import PO. I am using service Tax code 10.30 % .
When I entered the amount 4000 INR. It calculated the taxes 348.18 which is not correct.
I also check condition in FV13 its properly maintained.
Thanks in Advance
Regards
Pawan Sarda

Hello
Thanks for ur Reply.
MIRO -- Subsequent Debit -
>Tax code - S3 ( 10.30 % Services Tax) -
>PO NO. -
> change Vendor ( Import Vendor to Domestic Vendor) -
> Amount 4000 INR -
> also change Tax Code of Line Item   -
>Simulate
Vendor A\c -
>   4,348.18 INR Cr
Stock A\c -
> 4,000.00 INR Dr
Service Tax -
>     338.04 INR Dr
ECS             -
>         6.76 INR Dr
HECS          -
>       3.38 INR Dr
Above process I m doing against Import PO but I m not identify why its calculated Wrong Service Tax or calculating on which base amount ?
Actual Entry
Vendor A\c -
> 4,412.00 INR Cr
Stock A\c -
> 4,000.00 INR Dr
Service Tax -
>    400.00 INR Dr
ECS             -
>        8.00 INR Dr
HECS          -
>      4.00 INR Dr
Edited by: pawansarda on Jan 21, 2012 11:41 AM

Subsequent debit for a vendor before invoice??? (URGENT!!!!!)

hi all,
i want to post subsequent debit for a vendor before invoice. but the system is giving a message "The quantity to be debited/credited cannot be any greater than the quantity invoiced so far."
can anybody tell me how to post subsequent debit before posting the invoice (i haven't got the vendor invoice yet but i must pay the freight cost).

Hi,
Subsequent debit : Rarely, you receive from your vendors invoices or credit memos that refer to transactions that have already been invoiced. Your company wants to use subsequent debits/credits to process these documents. A subsequent debit/credit changes the total invoice value only of a purchase order item but the total invoice quantity remains unchanged.
The processes are:
1) Subsequent credit or even subsequent debit is done when total VALUE" of invoice is changed.
2) Total invoice Quantity is remained same.
3) Only value based transaction takes place & not quantity base.
4) If credit memo is received from memo then subsequent credit is done in MIRO.
For example vendor has submitted invoice of 100 Qty for Rs 1000 & we have posted the invoice & subsequently he realized that he has invoice for higher price i.e. it should have been actually 900 Rs as against Rs 1000 .In this case he will send a credit memo of Rs 100 for which we will be doing subsequent credit.
5) This is done for PO items if an invoice is already posted
6) cannot refer to particular invoice
7) Listed separately in PO history
8) In PO total values is updated but not Quantity.
For ur case you can pay to Vendor(freight cost ) by selecting Planned Delivery Cost instead of Goods/Services items in MIRO T.Code
Regards,
Biju K

Billing Document Subsequent debit/ credit:

Dear SAP Experts,
I am in search of the Document type (Sales) , though which there can be subsequent debit credit to the billing document (Which is already posted to accounting) and the new accounting document should be created with the invoice reference as the Acc. Document of the original billing Doc:
Such as:
BIlling DOc. No : 90666767 (F2)        Accounting Dcou: 22000089789 (RV)
Next Subsequent Credit :   Billing document (F2)
Accounting Document 220056537292 (DZ)    But in the INV. Ref: there should be 22000089789
Please advice.
I have tried the INVOICE Correction Request (RK) But it generates RV doc Type in accounting and Invoice reference is not Present.
Regards,
A S

Dear SAP Consultant,
If, I have understood correctly, This is because,
Accounting Document 220056537292 (DZ) is your Collection-Document (DZ - is Collection Doc.type against Billing Doc. Type - BL) against your BIlling DOc. No : 90666767 (F2)
For Billing Doc-types, Check with: VOFA
Best Regards,
Amit.
Note: I was not clear with your doubt, while replying, so if its not related to your query, Please excuse.

Subsequent debit tax calculating wrong

dear guru
while doing subsequent debit for the vendor the Excise duty is calculating wrong
my issue is like this
i have purchase 100 quty with value 10/kg total amount is 1000 for that
ED is calculated 140
Ecess calculated 3
S&H calculated 1
i have done goods receipt and posted invoice also
now i that part of the quantit i have returne
lets 50 kg i have retune for that MIRO,MIGO,JIS,J1iV i have done
next vendor will send the suplimentry invocie because the rate is increase for that 50 quantiy, for that i will do J1IH for the additional excise and i will do MIRO subsequent debit for the rate increse in miro the tax amount is calculating wrong, ie
lets for 50 quantity total amoun increased 100
ed should calculate 14 but it is calculating 28
for that i have to apply any note
pl tell me urgent
thanks
regards
jrp

My understanding about the Input Tax and Output Tax was wrong. In the issue reported
Input Tax Calculation should be:
Vendor A/C.............. Cr 30000-
Expense A/C............ Dr 29100
Input Tax A/C............ Dr 900 (@3% on 30000)---my understanding was wrong.
Input Tax 3% should be charged on Expense amount, in this case Rs 30000. But because in the editing option calculate tax on net amount option was not selected, hence SAP was giving the below entry, which is correct as well.
Vendor A/C.............. Cr 30000-
Expense A/C............ Dr 29126.21
Input Tax A/C............ Dr 873.79 (@3% on 29126.21) which is correct.
Hence, the Vendor amount should be Expense + Input Tax= 30000 * 3%=900 + 30000 (expense) = 30900.
Correct Entry should be:
Vendor A/C...............Cr 30900
Expense A/C............Dr 30000
Input Tax A/C............Dr 900
Resolved. Pankaj has given the correct answer.

Debit note - Subsequent debit

Dear all
1.what is the difference between debit note and subsequent debit
2.credit note and subsequent credit
3.credit memo
Please guide me with a simple example

Hi,
1. A transaction that reduces Amounts Receivable from a customer is a credit memo. For eg. The customer could return damaged goods. A debit memo is a transaction that reduces Amounts Payable to a vendor because, you send damaged goods back to your vendor.
2. Credit memo request is a sales document used in complaints processing to request a credit memo for a customer. If the price calculated for the customer is too high, for example, because the wrong scale prices were used or a discount was forgotten, you can create a credit memo request. The credit memo request is blocked for further processing so that it can be checked. If the request is approved, you can remove the block. The system uses the credit memo request to create a credit memo.
You can use credit memos in Sales and Distribution (SD) for assigning credit memo requests to the open invoices and in Financial Accounting (FI) for assigning credit memos and payments to the open invoices and carry out clearing with them. If you use both Financial Accounting (FI) and Sales and Distribution (SD), there is a 1:1 relationship between the credit memo request and the credit memo item posted in Financial Accounting (FI). As soon as you bill the credit memo request together with other sales orders, or distribute the items of one credit memo request to several billing documents, the assignment is no longer valid and the system will not process it.
For credit memos, credit memo requests, and payments, you have the following assignment options:
- Assignment to a single invoice
- Assignment of a partial amount to an invoice
- Assignment to several invoices
When you post credit memos, the payment programme processes them automatically. If the credit memo is specifically related to a particular open invoice item, the payment program automatically attempts to offset the credit memo against the open item. If it is not possible to completely offset the credit memo against an invoice, you can post a debit memo to the vendor, who is to reimburse the amount. Then you can apply a multilevel dunning program.
3. Debit memo request is a sales document used in complaints processing to request a debit memo for a customer. If the prices calculated for the customer were too low, for example, calculated with the wrong scaled prices, you can create a debit memo request. The debit memo request can be blocked so that it can be checked. When it has been approved, you can remove the block. It is like a standard order. The system uses the debit memo request to create a debit memo
Regards,
Deepak.

Blanket PO - Subsequent debit

Hi,
    I see a scenario where a blanket purchase order is created , but without the item category 'B'. The value is limited by the quantity entered in the PO and by releasing it. The invoices are posted against the PO, with the amounts in the invoices from the vendor. And Goods Receipt also posted for that amount.
Once a subsequent debit is posted for the credit note received. Is there a necessity to post a GR in this case(possible with a negative value?). And if so, what could be the movement type.
Thanks
Aparna

Hello
Thanks for ur Reply.
MIRO -- Subsequent Debit -
>Tax code - S3 ( 10.30 % Services Tax) -
>PO NO. -
> change Vendor ( Import Vendor to Domestic Vendor) -
> Amount 4000 INR -
> also change Tax Code of Line Item   -
>Simulate
Vendor A\c -
>   4,348.18 INR Cr
Stock A\c -
> 4,000.00 INR Dr
Service Tax -
>     338.04 INR Dr
ECS             -
>         6.76 INR Dr
HECS          -
>       3.38 INR Dr
Above process I m doing against Import PO but I m not identify why its calculated Wrong Service Tax or calculating on which base amount ?
Actual Entry
Vendor A\c -
> 4,412.00 INR Cr
Stock A\c -
> 4,000.00 INR Dr
Service Tax -
>    400.00 INR Dr
ECS             -
>        8.00 INR Dr
HECS          -
>      4.00 INR Dr
Edited by: pawansarda on Jan 21, 2012 11:41 AM

Regarding Subsequent debit,credit and cdedit memos

Hello Gurus,
Could any body explain the above said subject and when this scenario will be used pls give some examples.
regards
rk

Hi,
A subsequent debit/credit arises if a transaction has already been settled, and a further invoice or credit memo is received afterwards.
A subsequent debit/credit changes the total invoice value of a purchase order item; the total invoice quantity remains unchanged. Therefore, only a value-based update of the purchasing transaction takes place. There is no quantity-based
update.
1. Subsequent Debit :-You must enter an invoice as a subsequent debit if a purchase order item has already been invoiced and further costs are now incurred. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too low a price and then sends a
second invoice for the difference.)
2. Subsequent Credit :- You must enter a credit memo as a subsequent credit if a purchase order item was invoiced at too high a price and you have now received a credit memo. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too high a price and then sends a credit memo for the difference.)
If you enter a subsequent debit/credit, the system suggests the entire invoiced quantity, but no value. The maximum quantity that you can subsequently debit or credit is the quantity that has already been invoiced. You can only enter a subsequent debit/credit for a purchase order item if an invoice has already been posted for this item.
A subsequent debit/credit cannot refer to a particular invoice.
Subsequent debits and credits are listed separately in the PO history.
3. Credit Memo :- You usually receive a credit memo from a vendor if you were overcharged. As is the case for invoices, credit memos refer to purchase orders or goods receipts.
You post a credit memo if too large an amount has been invoiced. When you post the credit memo, the total invoiced quantity in the PO history is reduced by the credit memo quantity. The maximum quantity you can make a credit for is the quantity that has already been invoiced.
In the same way as the corresponding goods receipt is expected or posted for the invoice, in the case of a credit memo, the system assumes that the credit memo belongs to a return delivery or reversal of the goods receipt. This means that the credit memo is settled using the GR/IR clearing account.
Regards,
Pardeep Malik

Subsequent debit, credit and credit memo

Hi,
what is the difference between subsequent debit, credit and credit memo in MIRO transaction.
In case of vendor had given us credit note with relevant to particular for which we had already completed the invoice verification and payment also paid.
in this case what document should i use i.e crdit memo, subsequent credit memo or subsequent debit memo??
plz suggest

Hi
You need to use a credit memo.
Subsequent debit is used if you have already invoiced
You have already received an invoice from your vendor for all the goods received. Subsequently, freight costs are to be taken into account, however, the invoice quantity remains the same.
Subsequent credit is used if you already have done a credit memo on the PO
You have already received a credit memo from your vendor for all the goods received. Subsequently, freight costs are to be credited to your company, however, the credit memo quantity remains the same.
Thanks & Regards
Kishore

MIRO/ Subsequent Debit problem

I have the following scenario.
A purchase is made for a material for which the taxes include Excise Duties , VAT/CST. Now when we return this item physically , we reverse all taxes , n this is done via sales.
But when we make a subsequent credit , that is debit to vendor , due to quality reasons ( not involving any physical returns) , we reverse the VAT/CST , but NOT Excise.
In MIRO, when i make a subsequent debit to ve ndor ,how can i make a provision such that only VAT?CST is reversed n not Excise ?
Thanks in advance ,
Regards
Anis

Pls extend Help

LIV Subsequent Debit

Dear Guru's
I have a question regarding LIV and Subsequent Debits.
We have a Value Tolerance set of Lower 20% or £50 and upper 2% or £10 (OMR6). I have a Purchase Order for qty 1 Value £1,500. At this point no GR has taken place.
In MIRO I create an Invoice Receipt for Qty 1 at £1,400 and as expected the Invoice is Payment Blocked. Message in MIRO states GR qty equals Zero and Value below Tolerance.
However, If I now do a subsequent Debit for the remaining £100 this does not Block. I understand the value has now matched the PO, but the GR qty is still Zero.
This cause's a problem in that the original Invoice Receipt is still blocked but the Subsequent Debit is available for payment.
Is there any way i can get the Subsequent Debit to automatically Block in the above scenario.
Many Thanks
Paul Gray

A subsequent debit is designed to be used only when you have extra payment to be processed for an invoice that has already been processed and paid. Here you are talking about an invoice that is yet to paid, that is why you are facing this issue. The correct process here is to cancel the unpaid invoice and then post a new invoice for 1500 pounds.

Subsequent debit issue

Hi,
I ma faicing an issue with subsequnet debit posting.
I have been charged by a vendor for transporting material to my plant from one of other plants of our company code.
we have posted invoiuce for that.
but there was delay while unloading the truck so vendor is charging for idle time truck has while unloading.
i want to post that as subsequnt debit.
buy system is throuwing error as " tax coede 2A doesnot appear in any G/L line items."
Strange thing is that we can post the invocie with same data.
Where could be error while posting subsequent debit.?
thanks

A subsequent debit /credit arises if a transaction has already been settled and a further invoice or credit memo is received afterwards
You must enter an invoice as a subsequent debit if a PO item has already been invoiced and further costs are incurred.

SUBSEQUENT DEBIT IN MIRO

Dear All ,
kindly help me out in this issue as i have done the I,V for a P.O but IV is still tobe done for freight as Rs2000/- is to be paid through MIRO, But in invoice The actual freight is Rs 4000/- Kindly guide me that how i can pay the rest 2000/-as subsequent debit i have never done this before pl help me out , i " be very thankfull to all .
point will be awarded immed.
thanks in adv
sap11

Hi
To post a subsequent debit/credit, proceed as follows:
1.Fill out the initial screen. In the section Select, specify the purchase order to which the subsequent debit/credit refers. Enter the indicator for the type of subsequent debit/credit in question in the Subsequent debit/credit field. To proceed to the vendor screen, press ENTER.
2.Fill out the vendor screen. Press ENTER to display the selection screen. The order items are listed. The Quantity column contains the previously invoiced quantity; the Value column is empty.. All the items are selected.
3.For those items to which the subsequent debit/credit applies, enter the amount and, if necessary, correct the quantity. Select the items that are affected by the subsequent debit/credit.
4.After you have chosen Goto ® Document overview, the system checks whether price variances are caused by the subsequent debit/credit. If this is the case, you automatically proceed to each individual item screen where there is a price variance. By pressing ENTER, you proceed from one item screen to the next and from the last screen to the document overview.
5.Choose Document ® Post to post the document, provided the balance equals zero.

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