Sync send step after transformation step

Hi Gurus,
The send step I have after transformation step is not getting the input message. I am splitting the message into 2 messages in the trans step and using one of them as input message in send step. I am getting 'empty container is send to the send step' error.
Please help me with this problem. I am not sure what I am missing.
Thanks
Kalyan

Kalyan,
Just adding to the disucussion, you might have specified a source and 2 target msgs in the transformation step.
Make sure it is one of the 2 target msgs that you have specified for the send step.
You can view the 2 target msgs in SXMB_MONI.
Use Michal's blog for reference.
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/09/16/xi-how-to-test-your-mapping-in-real-life-scenarios
Regards,
Jai Shankar

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