Sync to Sync BPM scenario

Hi Experts,
How to do Sync to Sync BPM scenario without using Sync/Async bridge?
Could you please give the BPM steps for SOAP to JDBC scenario?
Regards
Sara
Edited by: Sara D on Jan 17, 2008 7:59 AM

Hi,
Check below links for BPM scenarios.
/people/krishna.moorthyp/blog/2005/06/09/walkthrough-with-bpm
/people/shabarish.vijayakumar/blog/2005/08/03/xpath-to-show-the-path-multiple-receivers
/people/arpit.seth/blog/2005/06/27/rfc-scenario-using-bpm--starter-kit
/people/sravya.talanki2/blog/2005/08/24/do-you-like-to-understand-147correlation148-in-xi
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/09/04/xi-do-you-realy-enjoy-clicking-and-waiting-while-tracing-bpm-steps
/people/sudharshan.aravamudan/blog/2005/12/01/illustration-of-multi-mapping-and-message-split-using-bpm-in-sap-exchange-infrastructure
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/media/uuid/daea5871-0701-0010-12aa-c3a0c6d54e02
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/media/uuid/e8515171-0701-0010-be98-e37bec4706cc
Regards,
Phani

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This is continuation of the below thread.
SOAP -> SOAP -> SOAP BPM scenario
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Regards
Sara
Edited by: Sara D on Jan 18, 2008 12:33 PM
Edited by: Sara D on Jan 18, 2008 1:02 PM

Hi Prateek,
Now I have to use Sync/Async bridge inside BPM know?
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Mode : Asyncr
Message : SOAP1_Response (SOAP1_ABS_Res_MI)
Is the above approach correct? The above steps I have done it before you provide the new Abstract interface objects..Not sure about the flow..
Please correct me, If I am wrong..
SOAP1_Sync_ABS_MI ,SOAP2_Sync_ABS_MI , SOAP2_Sync_ABS_MI   .. Are these Sync Abstract Message interfaces or correct..or I have to use the two MI which you have mentioned it in the thread?
Please respond to me as early as possible.
Regards
Sara

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IR
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2. DT_SOAPResponse
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Hi Sekhar,
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I have to use bpm for this,
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Now requirement is changed they want us to do synchronously,
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The steps to be followed to have 2 senders and 1 receiver in your case, we need to follow the following steps:
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<a href="/people/arpit.seth/blog/2005/06/27/rfc-scenario-using-bpm--starter-kit">RFC Scenario using BPM for Starters</a>
<a href="https://weblogs.sdn.sap.com/pub/wlg/1403 [original link is broken]">Usage of Sync-Async when both Sender and Receiver are Synchronous</a>
<a href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/43/65d4dab39b0398e10000000a1553f6/content.htm">Defining Sync/Async Communication</a>
<a href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/62/dcef46dae42142911c8f14ca7a7c39/content.htm">Step Types in BPM</a>
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/83/d2a84028c9e469e10000000a1550b0/content.
I hope I have answered your query.
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