Syncing audio tracks...workflow

Generally i have 2 video tracks with audio and a separate audio track from my h4n, i spend an inordinate amount of time tying to synchronize first the 2 video camera audio tracks to get the video synced then more time syncing the 2 of them with the H4n track, i have read & tried a couple of ways with not much better success, I would appreciate any and all tips on how i can simplify this situation, any ideas? thanks

I sync multiple video and non-sync audio all the time. It really helps if there is a clap or other distinct noise recorded on all the devices at the same time. Then you can identify it with a marker in the source window on each clip and either let the mulitclip create a multiclip sequence (if you plan to edit multicam) or just bring each one into the timeline on its own track.
If you don't have a clap recorded start with the shortest source (assuming they all recorded everything). Find the first instance of a word like "hello and welcome to..." and mark the "he" sound. You will have to really really zoom in to the audio waveform. Do the same with the other sources.
It's mostly a matter of practice and, of course, ensuring that all the sources are rolling all the time. Don't stop for anything! You could invest in a product like "Plural Eyes" but really, it's not a difficult art to perfect.

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Hi guys. I LOVE the rendering speed/quality etc of single videos but I'm running into trouble syncing videos/audio from 3 sources. Basically I have a Nikon D7000 and an Iphone taking two angles of me playing guitar. I want to sync all of them to an audio clap or a click but I can't seem to find the zoom option where I can get right in on the wav files to match the peaks of the clap. I am also having trouble with the video clips I am dragging seem to lock magnetically to other clips or wherever my playback marker is. I want the clips to drag/move freely (and tiny increments) and not lock into any time interval etc.
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Thanks for the reply with details of your Premiere Elements version and computer operating system.
1. Zooming in on clap in wave form of audio - assorted maneuvers
You could always change the audio track size, but that is not going to give you anywhere near the detail that you will get by
alt clicking the audio portion of the Timeline file (to temporarily unlink audio from the video and then double clicking that Timeline
audio file to bring up its waveform in the Preview Window and noting the clap time at playback there.
With the video and audio relink again, as you can hold down the alt key and tap the left or right arrow key, you can move the Timeline linked clip from right to left or left to right
for alignment purposes to the clap time.
When you need only the video portion of the video audio linked file in the Preview Windows, then you omit the alt click on the audio portion.
If needed, you could always set unnumbered markers at the Timeline level or in the Preview Windows.
For Timeline video audio nudges....as you hold down the alt key and tap the right or left arrow key once, you get a one frame nudge per tap.
As you hold down the Shift+Alt and tap the right or left arrow key once, you get a five frames nudge per tap.
On other matters...
2. Please look at right clicking the Timeline and looking a Snap option enabled and disabled.
3. I will think about it some more but I do not see any way to mute the audio for a whole audio track. You can mute the audio for clips on that audio track but not
shut off the audio to that one particular audio track. If you wanted to do audio clip muting for more than 1 clip at a time, I could see
a. copy first file that you muted through Adjust Tab/Adjustments/Volume Panel expanded and
b. then do a Paste Effects and Adjustments for a selection of all of the other audio files on that particular track.
Just some thoughts
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If you are having audio sync issues when playing back video in iTunes on your Windows machine, you may find the troubleshooting steps in the following articles helpful:
Apple Support: Troubleshooting iTunes for Windows Vista or Windows 7 video playback performance issues
http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1718
iTunes and QuickTime for Windows: Audio does not play or plays incorrectly
http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1362
Regards,
- Brenden

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Hi I am an editor from Finland.
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I found this Adobe video that helped get sync lock and audio through my head that I thought I would post in case someone else runs into this thread needing help:
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/digital-video/mapping-source-tracks-to-target-tracks
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[WORKFLOW] Proper audio tracks management ?

Hi everybody,
I'm stuck on a tricky workflow question.
Lets say I've got a short movie which consist of a simple dialogue scene :
It's shot with one camera : 1 track of video + 1 stereo audio track (will only be used for sync)
audio recorded on an external audio device : 3 mono tracks (1 boom + 2 lav mics).
I would like to :
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     2* let my editor make the cut without having to drag a bunch of audio tracks around (= 1video+1stereo)
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Lets say I've got a short movie which consist of a simple dialogue scene :
It's shot with one camera : 1 track of video + 1 stereo audio track(will only be used for sync)
audio recorded on an external audio device : 3 mono tracks (1 boom + 2 lav mics).
This part becomes easier if you have matching timecode or know the offsets at least.
Syncing is actually the easy part, even with DLSR : you can use a timecoded slate, PluralEye (or even the new audio sync in PPro CC).
I would edit using the off camera audio only ...then after edit lock..I would lay in audio tracks from external recorder ( using TC matching). Do not unlink original audio at any time.
(The above is fairly standard practice and simple.)
It makes sense.
But being stuck to edit with bad scratch audio and have to rebuild a synced sequence at the end of my project... :-(
Adobe provides us with great option to sync our video and audio BEFORE we begin editing.
That's because syncing afterward is maddening :
Let's say my dialogue scene is one long continuous take for each actor (= "actor_A.mov" and "actor_B.mov").
I will end up using maybe 10 instances of each file or more (one for each sentence of the dialogue),
and I will have to sync my audio tracks to every single piece, by hand !
Which would take hours...
It's 2013, we need an elegant workflow !

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On my ipad 2 I can't "see" the hundreds of spoken audio tracks that are in my itunes and on my ipod touch. Is there something I didn't do during sync up? The tracks are from voice recordings that were downloaded from an extrernal drive and weren't necessarily tagged as spoken audio. Do I need to go back into itunes and relabel these tracks so they will show up on my ipad2?
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Cut up the 4n audio clip and synch it to its respective clips.

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i shuffled things around to get them back to normal, moving my audio regions around a bit until it sounded right. i ended up messing pretty much everything up so i used the command to move all audio regions to original location.
the drums were still out of sync and off tempo, even. i wondered if i had messed with the tempo and not remembered so i started playing with it trying to get it to match.
i quickly discovered that if i adjust the tempo at all, my audio tracks/ regions fall out of sync again. this makes no sense to me whatsoever, and i'm kind of worried i may have a corrupt project or something.
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X-man is correct. This behavior isn't unique to Logic either.
Let's say your sequence is at 60 BPM. That's 1 beat every second. You record 4 tracks, each with an individual hit of a drum and nothing else:
Track 1: Kick on beat 1 - heard at zero seconds
Track 2: Snare on beat 2 - heard at 1 second
Track 3: Kick on beat 3 - heard at 2 seconds
Track 4: Snare on beat 4 - heard at 3 seconds
Now you change the tempo to 120 BPM. That's 1 beat every 1/2 second. Because you've got these individual sounds recorded on separate tracks, their playback will occur more quickly. In fact, twice as fast:
Track 1: Kick on beat 1 - heard at zero seconds
Track 2: Snare on beat 2 - heard at 1/2 second
Track 3: Kick on beat 3 - heard at 1 second
Track 4: Snare on beat 4 - heard at 1 1/2 seconds
This is not time compression. Changing the tempo from 60 to 120 simply causes the individual recordings to play back sooner relative to bar 1/beat1. In this case, half as much time elapses between the playback of each sound.
IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY if this kick/snare pattern is contained in a single audio recording, because the spacing of the kicks and snares is frozen in time within the recording.
Let's say you record kick/snare/kick/snare as a single piece of audio at 60 BPM...
a) if the recording is made at bar 1/beat 1, no matter what the tempo of the sequence is changed to at a later time, this recording will be always be 'anchored' at bar 1 beat 1.
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HOW TO GET AROUND THIS:
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XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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