System and sysdba difference?

Hello ;
What is the difference between system and "as sysdba" difference?
IS there anything beyond to be a superuser in ORacle world?
I installed an Oracle and worked on it for a few days in order to set up a connection from sqlplus. Now I can connect to db by using sqlplus finally.
When I attempt to connect is as "system@xe / as sysdba" , sqlplus screams that "ORA-01031: insufficient privileges" ... How can I get rid of that error message?

948578 wrote:
Guys;
thanks for your link, advises and explanations but none of them is helping me understand...
I am not trying to connect to the server from itself.
I have a Oracle Express on Ubuntu (Servername: ubuntu11-3)
I have a Oracle Ent on Windows (Servername: orc01.enderun.lan )
...and I have been trying to configure my linux client (my linux client hostname is "ubuntu12-1"). All my purpose is to connect ubuntu to my server(s) from my linux client as sysdba...
...ok I can understand Oracle has an emotional relation with "dba" group but the user (administrator) which is on my client ( ubuntu12-1) is a member of dba group of my client machine or not? How can Oracle server be aware of this???
Well, I can create a dba group on linux server and/or an ORA_DBA group on Windows server but these groups are not being used by my client (ubuntu12-1) ...
Could u please help me understand?So if all you want is to connect a client to a server, why you are asking the difference between Sysdba and System accounts? How does that helps in anyways in this task?
The groups are relevant only for the server. They have got nothing to do with the client and neither Oracle's server system would bother that which user on your client is a part of which group. Now, coming back to your question, did you configure the TNS service from your client connecting to the server and also, did you install a client software on your Ubuntu machine?
Aman....

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