Tagan 480W and MSI K8N SLI-FI

Just about to install a Tagan 2force 480W PSU into an MSI K8N SLI-FI motherboard. This board requires 3 power connections, the 24pin ATX, 4 pin for CPU and there's a 4 pin molex (PCIE_PW1) connection for PCI-Express VGA cards.
From the Tagan website, I thought that this power supply had a blue 4pin connector to use for this PCIE_PW1 connection. It doesn't, it only has the two 6pin PCI-Express connections. Can I use one of the white molex power cables that would normally be used for drives?
This PSU also has a GND/RTN grounding cable. Do I put this under one of the screws fixing the motherboard to the case?
Thanks

Hello !
Yes, you can use the standart connectors for your VGA Cards, but it should be the only device attached to this power string. Do not use it in combination with other devices as power source for your card. I do not know exactly if your PSU has two 12V Power Rails, but if so, try to combine them to one 12V Rail. There should be a switch on your PSU to do that.
You can install the grounding cable to any place in the case, i would not put it under the motherboard, i suggest mounting it to a HDD cage.
Greetz

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MSI Reminds You...
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Quote from: Bas on 19-January-09, 00:17:28
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