Taking out a live paint group as a separate shape

i'm making a map showing arid areas, dry areas, plain, mountains. i'm using the live paint bucket function with great difficulty. i'm using this for first tim, i have almost zero experience in illustrator . i'm stuck now. the greean area on the left can't be isolated out, or lets say cut paste as a new individual shape. this is really annoying. kindly help me out. I'm using illustrator cs5
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Wade_Zimmerman wrote:
I think you might have to expand the live paint group in order to do what you wish to do and in the end you can then simply use the fill proxy in the tool panel to fill other areas with colors.
THAT did it!! expanding is the trick. thanks i gotta expand everything to get it right ..:)

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You scan it and autotrace it. Unless you apply some deliberate care to make it do otherwise, the autotrace is going to create a compound path, filled with black, and with no stroke; and a green simple path which (hopefully) exactly "kisses" (abuts) the black path. Adobe's on-screen antialiasing of the edge where the two colors abut may or may not cause your monitor to display a faint whitish or grayish sliver between the two colors.
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