Temperature discrepancy MSI 785GM-E65
Hi Everyone. I would like to see if someone can help me with this issue. In my new system when reading temperatures the temp from the motherboard reading is always around 15C degrees higher than the reading that I get from the AMD cores. For instance when using AMD Overdrive to run the stability test, I go to check the temperatures and TMPIN0 (CPU Reading from the motherboard) gets to a maximum of 63C degrees (This is with AMD Stock Cooler) However the core temperatures reaches a maximum of 51C degrees (Both are still under specifications) But I wonder which reading is more accurate. Has anyone experienced this discrepancy between these 2 parameters? Thanks again in advance!
Hi Guys the TMPIN0 reading is actually the reading from the Motherboard that you can get in the BIOS. SO basically the motherboard has 2 temperature readings in the BIOS CPU Temp (This is then reflected as TMPIN0 in the reading within windows) and System Temp (This is reflected as TMPIN1 within windows) The problem is that the core temperature reading from the AMD CPU is lower that the TMPIN0 reading and almost 15C degree lower. The TMPIN0 reading is the one that controls the smart fan function, so if this one goes up the CPU cooler spin faster. I have tried Everest but basically the temperatures are the same (because I think they just get the info from the chip in the motherboard) I guess my question is which reading is more accurate? The CPU reading from the motherboard or what the processor cores are reporting? Thanks again!!
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MOVED: Sos Voltage Settings on MSI 785GM-E65 Help Help SOS
This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=136226.0Actually it concerns the Voltages.
When I installed this CPU in this board everything was AUTO, in Windows the Voltage read 1.4v.
This 955 Black Editions has Stock Voltages of
CPU VDD 1.35v
CPU-NB VDD 1.25v
HT Link 1.2v.
However because the BIOS does not output all these voltages in the Right Column as to what they are set to reflecting realtime measures, one has to 'boot' into Window to look at the readout.
BIOS Terminology is my main concern so I can set them appropriately to 'stock' first then raise them.
It seems with this board because it has the several different methods to OC that some voltages cannot be adjusted properly so they are already preset to certain stable measures pre-thinking someone will OC.
This not good. Since if the Processor for the CPU VDDC voltage is set high the VCORE get hot quick.
So, I'm asking for the correct stock voltages for the above for this 955 Black Edition CPU RB-C3 125w/TDP
on this MSI 785GM-E65 Board. Don't care about OC at the moment.
I need to know from MSI what the stock voltages are for Each Option.
Lastly, the NB Chipset voltage is set at 1.3v from the Factory along with the HT Link. When I lower the HT to 1.2 the SB voltage activates and these two move in unison. Which is very uncool and odd. -
MOVED: MSI 785GM-E65 Voltage Settings for AMD Phenom2 x4 955 BE C3 125w/TDP CPU
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Hi, i have the msi 785gm-e65 moptherboard and i would like to ask if it supports ssd drives and trim.I am interested in installing an samsung 830 ssd.
Quote from: Fredrik on 19-January-12, 06:30:30
A bit off: Does anyone know why they call it IDE mode? Whether a hard disk uses "AHCI" or "IDE" mode it is still usually an IDE sized disk.
Sorry Fred, it's actual a reffering to the circuitboard on the drive, nothing more.
In the old days they used to have "smart" controllers and dumb drives.
Now they have dumb controllers and "smart" drives, as such they moved the electronics to the drive.
The protocol the drive uses is ATA or AHCI, funny is that RAID isn't a protocol for the drive to use -
Hi,
I am interested in migrating my current HTPC (Asus M2A-VM HDMI) to the 785GM-E65 motherboard. I want to take advantage of some existing components however, as I don't want to absorb the expense all at once. I've read various online reviews and have gotten some conflicting data. My questions:
Is this mobo compatible with AM2+ CPUs? I want to use a Phenom X4 9750 for now, and move to an Athlon II X3/4 at a later time
Can I use DDR2 800Mhz memory with this unit? Again, with this notion of moving to DDR3 in the future.
Thanks!No, the board only takes AM3 CPU and DDR3 memory.
http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=prodmbspec&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=&cat3_no=&prod_no=1864
To reuse parts you need to take an AM2+ (AM3 ready) board with DDR2 slots.
Then you cvan use AM2(+) and AM3 CPU's, but not DDR3 memory.
If you goto an AM3 board you have to move all of it now.
Else go AM2+ board and you can use an AM3 CPU in it later (if the board is AM3 ready)
See a sample of such a board: http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1642 -
Got a problem with BIOS in my board MSI 785GM-E51
i have a MSI 785GM-E51 board,i got a problem with the graphic card bus interface,it still run in 8x not in 16x
i try to disable a onboard graphic on BIOS,but i not find it.
and last i try to update BIOS to v2.4 n' not work too.
this a example;Quote from: Bas on 08-March-10, 21:21:36
You do not need to disable the onboard.
As for the plug-in card, there is nothing in the BIOS to make it work 8x or 16x.
Make sure your card is seated correctly, else it will work but at lower number of lanes.
What program is telling you it's 8x?
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Re: MSI 785GM-E51 and memory modules problems -l- Split
I am using AMD PHENOM II 1055 125w CPU on MSI 785GM-E51. Memory Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 x4
I can put memory in slot 1 and 3 it will boot fine.
If I install DDR3 in slot 1 and 2 the system will not boot. If I full populate all the memory slots it will not boot
In both scenario's after the system does not boot and go back to just using slots 1 and 3 the system boot with CMOS checksum error and need to go in to BIOS setup. All the changes need to be made again, saved and exit and it reboots fine.
I have already attempted to setup the memory speed to 1333 and 1066 with no luck. Any ideas?
785GM-E51/BIOS 2A0, Phenom II T1055 @ 2.8 GHz, 125W Stock AMD Heat sink&Fan
Corsair 2x2GB CMX4GX3M2A1600C9, 9,9,9,24, 1T, 1.47V, 1600 MHz --------- 2 kits
ESXi 4.1
Antec 650 Truepower
ATI x600 PCI-e
Adaptec AAR-2610A with 5 WD Caviar RE WD2500SD-01KCB0 250GB RAID-5 Configuration
NEC ND-2501A DVD-BurnerTopic split, don't hi-jack other peoples topics. >> Please read and comply with the Forum Rules <<
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I have built a new machine with the following Specifications: (All new parts)
Mainboard: MSI 785GM-E51
RAM: Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT25664BA1339
CPU: AMD Athlon II X3 455 Rana 3.3GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor ADX455WFGMBOX
PSU: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 (CMPSU-430CXV2) 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Green WD6400AACS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
This build initially started up but then failed POST. I am getting what sounds like the normal beep followed by two short beeps and then nothing. Earlier in the day, it started up and I reviewed the BIOS settings. Shut it down and moved it from one work bench to another, inserted the O/S CD and tried to start it. Would not pass POST. Nothing had changed from when it started only a few moments before. I have removed all expansion cards and the CD drive. Disconnected everything from the main board except the RAM and the hard drive. Reseated the RAM. Tried only one stick, twice. Still the same POST of one beep followed by two rapid beeps. Using onboard video. Tried VGA and HDMI connections.
I have build many computers but this one has be stuck. :(
Any ideas? ThanksExcellent advice on this forum. Thanks to all. Up and running fine now.
I had some small washers in my shop so I put a small washer under each of the standoffs. This raised the motherboard enough to prevent any shorting.
The advice on the toenail clippers was good. Would have done that had I read the note in time.
The "two many standoffs" is also good advice. I made that mistake once early in my building career. Especially important when upgrading.
Again, Thanks to all,
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MSI 785GM-E51 can't install audio drivers
Hey, I would be grateful if you could help me with this problem.
When I try to install the audio drivers of this mobo(785GM-E51), Windows 7 can't find them. It offers me another set of drivers - that of VIA's, but it should be Realtek's. Normally it wouldn't be a problem, but I have a an issue with front panel microphone jack(it's not working), so I want to install the proper drivers. I tried disabling auto-installing option of Windows 7, and then install the drivers that MSI offers officially , but still the computer acts as if I didn't install anything.
EDIT: It seems that I have a different motherboard - in the document I have(about the parts of PC), it says that the computer has MSI 785GM-E51, but now that I checked the informationa about motherboard in the Windows itself, it appaars that ASrock M3A770DE is in the case. So I guess the fact that I can't install the MSI's drivers is because of different mobo. I have no idea how this could've happened.>>Posting Guide<<
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MSI 785GM-E51 and memory modules problems
Could anyone help me with one problem. I have motherboard MSI 785GM-E51 and 4 memory modules GOODRAM GR 1333D364L9/2G. But when I'm inserting ALL modules my system not starting (even POST procedure). So working variants - when I'm inserting:
- one module in first (boot) slot
or
- they inserted in first and third memory slots
Any ideas?It is not motherboard problem, but processor itself - I have AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3,4 Ghz Core Revision C2 and this revision (according to the article: http://www.fcenter.ru/online.shtml?articles/hardware/processors/27650#02) has problems with support memory modules DDR3-1333 Mhz more than 2 modules. Conclusion - either adjust BIOS settings concerning memory timings and memory controller voltage or replace this kind of processor with the same type but with core revision C3
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Hi,
I've bought a HTPC based on MSI 785GM-E51. I haven't noticed that this motherboard has only HDMI and 6ch output for sound. I've A/V receiver with no hdmi-in connector. My question is if one of 6ch outputs is coaxial?
Sorry for my english - haven't used it for years.Quote
I've bought a HTPC based on MSI 785GM-E51.
I presume you bought this system prebuilt then? If the system builder did not provide the mainboard manual, you can download it from here:
http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=manual&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1866
The S/PDIF bracket is an optional extra with this mainboard. You can ask the system builder if they have any available, or you may be able to find one elsewhere. -
MSI 785GM-E51 - onboard LAN not working
Hello,
I've problem with MSI 785GM-E51 board. Suddenly, when I booted system (Ubuntu) I've noticed that there is no network and even network device (lcpci showed no network devices). Is it possible that the onboard LAN got damaged? I tried to check BIOS and renabled oboard LAN/remove PCI devices/unplug power for a few hours etc but nothing helped. Any suggestions?LAN card has worked earlier?
PSU is starting to fail? If things work after several re-boots that may very well be the reason. -
MSI 785GM-E51 - Amount of usable RAM in Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Hello i have the following system:
Mobo: MSI 785GM-E51
Bios: AMI v 2.3
CPU: AMD Phenom II 955 BE @ 3.2Ghz
Memory: 2 dimms of ( KINGSTON KVR1333D3N9/2G DDR3 2GB PC10666 1333MHZ VALUE RAM ) , Total 4Gb
GPU: Sapphire Radeon X1950 Pro with 256mb RAM
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
The specific motherboard has an onboard ATI 4200 vga. I've installed the Radeon x1950 pro from day 1 and in the bios settings the onboard vga option reads disabled. However windows 7 during install always recognize both x1950 pro an 4200 and provide drivers. In windows device manager i have the 4200 disabled. However windows display that from the 4GB of installed ram only 3,75GB is usable. Is this normal? Isn't supposed to have all my memory available since the onboard vga is disabled? And if it is disabled from start how windows 7 detect it during installation and suggest corresponding drivers ? I'm looking forward for your opinions and suggestions
Thanks in advance...Turn memory >4GB remapping on, see your manual how to do it.
And stop bumping your message, it's NOT allowed.
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CMOS Checksum Error on MSI 785GM-E51
Hi, I have 2 years old MSI 785GM-E51. Approximately 2 - 3 months ago, my PC just go hang without any reasons, even the mouse / keyboard won't respond to anything.
After I reset, sometimes it's fine, but sometimes it's hang again, the interval is random. Sometimes it even hang when in the POST or when i enter BIOS setting.
After several restart, it's sometimes gives me CMOS Checksum Error, so I decided to reset the CMOS using jumper method. After that my PC just works normal.
Until a week ago, my pc start to hang randomly again, the symptom is similar but this time sometimes it's not hang, but the PC just restart immediately with black / white / blue random pattern
displayed momentarily on the screen. And it always display CMOS Checksum Error. I already tried reinstalling Windows, and updating BIOS via flash disk from Live Update 5, no use.
I already tried to plug out my VGA and using the onboard one, still crash / hang randomly. I also test Memtest overnight with passing 11 pass without error.
Is it my motherboard already dead? or it's my PSU? CPU?
Here is my complete specs:
AMD Phenom II X4 955BE
MSI 785GM-E51
DDR3 Dual Channel 4GB RAM (corsair, forgot the model)
Radeon 5770
WDC 1TB
WDC 1.5TB
Amacrox Free Style 650W
Thanks in advance.Quote
Yesterday i desperate enough and change some BIOS settings, and
surprisingly, the CPU is much cooler!
Try entering bios, hitting f6 for optimized defaults then save and exit. See if problem persists.
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As far as I remember, no, the crash / hang time i remembered is when POST / boot / startup / browsing / install app / playing games / copy file.
And one more thing, when it hangs, it really hangs, not just the windows, sometimes it even not respond to reset button, so i have to power it off. But sometimes it respond
to reset button, but with quite a long delay, it could half a minute i think.
Have you tried re-seating the cpu,memory and all of the power connectors etc?
What are the amp ratings on the 12v rail of the PSU? I found this on thier website but dont have time to dig furthur: Quote
4-Channel 12V Rails Design
Although the VGA you list only needs 24a on a 12v rail.
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what's cpuid / ram timings / spd? where i can look at it?
http://www.cpuid.com/
When the program opens, take a screen shot of the tab that describe how your ram is running, It will show the current timings,speed, single or dual channel. Also take a ss of the spd tab, which will show the jdec standards that apply to that ram and the xmp profile. Then post the SS's to imageshack or the link and link them. -
System unstable - MSI 785GM-E51 and OCZ3G1600LV2G
I had random freezes since I built the system(20 days ago). But, intially freezing up once a day or so. Recently in the last 10 days, the freezes are more often (sometimes within 5 to 10 mins). Basically system freezes at stock settings.
Running Prime95 to test
Blend test stops mostly within the first few seconds reporting hardware error. The other two types work well. Did not let them go past few mins.
Also, changed the CPU to FSB ratio to 1:4. So, BIOS indicates 1600Mhz. Changed DRAM Voltage to 1.65V and system still unstable. Changed back.
Also, when I enable the MSI board features to Unlock CPU and ACC, the sytem does not boot under and stock settings.
MSI 785GM-E51 BIOS 2.4 (had 2.3 before)
AMD Athalon X3 435
4GB RAM (2x2) OCZ 1600Mhz DDR3 OCZ3G1600LV2G (recommended voltage 1.65V)
1TB Hitachi SATA
Samsung 22x DVD/RW
Enerma 05W power supply ETK405AST
ETK405ASTRun a test @DDR3-1066 first.
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OCZ3G1600LV2G
The model number is incomplete (not possible to find any match on the OCZ Product Pages).
Can you write down the model number as it appears on the modules themselves?
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Voltage 1.5V (Mfg specs.. say 1.65V)
Those 1.5V do not indicate the voltage set in BIOS but the JEDEC Compliant default voltage for DDR3 modules (1.5V +/- 0.075V). 1.65V is an overvoltaged rating that is needed to compensate the overclocked/undertimed ratings OCZ adverises for those modules.
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