Third Party Document/Object Repositories

I was referred to this Forum from the Webcenter Content Forum, as I could not get a definitive answer. We are in the planning stages of implmenting Webcenter for a DMS. If SES is used, will it search other indices in separate document repositories that use PostgresSQL, e.g. Dspace, Fedora? Or even NoSQL?
In order to decide if it will work, the question appears to be one of open APi's. This is not just a matter of linking files, but searching and retrieving them. Does Webcenter/SES include truly open API's? I see some hints that it might (with alot of customization), but no one has seemed to address this specific use case in the documentation or on the Forums I can identify.
Has anyone else tried this?
Thanks in advance.

I think the answer is: yes, it is possible, but you will need to consider which product is responsible for what functionality.
There is not any product in the WebCenter portfolio that does indexing. Even WebCenter Content uses other technologies such as Oracle Database (namely, Oracle Text), or Oracle Secure Enterprise Search for that. In fact, Oracle SES might a product you are looking for - but it'd need to be licensed separately, and you'd need to check if there are adapters for the systems you mentioned (or you'd need to write your own, or you a compatible one).
As for participation in workflows or dispositions (federated records management), it is likewise. WebCenter Content: Records (formerly, Universal Records Management) is capable of federated records management on condition that an adapter exists. In fact, for filesystem repositories (that might be compatible) it uses Oracle SES (which is one of pre-reqs), so it might be the same question as before.
Alternatively, you could use 'pure workflow' products such as Oracle BPM or BPEL Process Manager that can integrate nearly with anything via SOAP.
Finally, you could try to 'link' documents in your other repository to document in WebCenter Content. This would probably be a customization.

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Third Party Document/object Repository Compatiblity

We are in the process of planning for the implementation of Oracle Webcenter as our primary Document Management System. I have searched the Webcenter site and forums, but cannot find an answer to my question:
Can Oracle Webcenter be used with a separate Document Repository? Note these are final documents that are inactive and if revised would also be separate documents. They however it would be useful if they could be searched and capable of being part of the DMS workflow for final dispostion of Documents (not generic "content"), that can be sent from Webcenter. In this scenario, Webcenter is used only as the active document application, and when that document is finalized, sent to the non-Oracle repository.
If this is possible, can you search that repository via Webcenter? Or is the Webcenter DMS proprietary, and not open source with other non-Oracle based Document and object repositories, e.g. Dspace and Fedora?
Thank you in advance.

I think the answer is: yes, it is possible, but you will need to consider which product is responsible for what functionality.
There is not any product in the WebCenter portfolio that does indexing. Even WebCenter Content uses other technologies such as Oracle Database (namely, Oracle Text), or Oracle Secure Enterprise Search for that. In fact, Oracle SES might a product you are looking for - but it'd need to be licensed separately, and you'd need to check if there are adapters for the systems you mentioned (or you'd need to write your own, or you a compatible one).
As for participation in workflows or dispositions (federated records management), it is likewise. WebCenter Content: Records (formerly, Universal Records Management) is capable of federated records management on condition that an adapter exists. In fact, for filesystem repositories (that might be compatible) it uses Oracle SES (which is one of pre-reqs), so it might be the same question as before.
Alternatively, you could use 'pure workflow' products such as Oracle BPM or BPEL Process Manager that can integrate nearly with anything via SOAP.
Finally, you could try to 'link' documents in your other repository to document in WebCenter Content. This would probably be a customization.

Drag n Drop between JButton and third party Java object

Hi!
I want to implement drag n drop(however it is not drag n drop in its real sense) between JButton(s) placed in a JToolBar and third party Java Object i.e. Netbeans Visual Library API's Scene class that is actually like a Canvas in drawing Apps. The Scene class itself is not a JComponent (it extends directly from java.lang.Object), rather we invoke createView method on the Scene object to get a JComponent that could be used any where(probably in a JScrollPane).
What i want is that when my user drags a JButton to the Scene's view it appears similarly as something is being dragged But in actaul that JButton should'nt be dragged or dropped Rather when user releases the mouse button to drop the item i could use my custom code to do something(actually add a Widget(a graphical item) to the Scene object).
How could this be achieved..?
thanks in advance,
regards.

The problem with UNIX and more specially with X is thare wasn't common drag'n'drop interface. Now there is XDND (X Drag'n'drop) protocol but it might not be implemented on each X server or may not be used by each X application.
I don't know if GNOME use XDND and/or if Java implementations for UNIX support that protocol. However you can check some other projects like:
http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/
http://gnome-gcj.sourceforge.net/
which provide external bindings of gnome libraries to java.

Advantages of third party Document Management vs SAP

We have had the IXOS product installed for a long period of time to store our SAP related documents such as drawings, POs, Invoices. We also use IXOS to store our SAP archived data thru the SAP archivelink interface. Due to cost and support issues, we are looking to replace IXOS. The big question that keeps coming up is whether we actually need a third party product any longer or can SAP's content server and DMS handle the same items. Our CIO continues to ask why do we need IXOS. Unfortunately, I do not know enough about what SAP has in this area now to give him a definite answer. Any input on this would be greater appreciated.

This is quite a good link...
http://www.sap-img.com/sap-dms.htm
Iw as at the recent SAP world Tour and the only people providing information on this were a company called Imagenow.
We will be implementing a Document and record management system in the coming months. And would be intersted other's feedback!

Migrating Third Party Document Management System into SAP EP KM

Hello Everyone,
We are having a requirement to Migrate the documents from Third Party (Intraspect) Document Management System into SAP Enterprise Portal KM.
Documents in Intraspect are storing in Oracle Database. Our requirement is to Mirgrate the documents from Intraspect database to Portal KM Database.
Please suggest that how we need to approach in Migrating the documents and permissions from Intraspect to KM.
Thanks in Advance.
Regards,
Sridhar.

Hi,
Our requirement is to migrate the documents from intraspect oracle database to KM database.
Please suggest how the migration happens from database to database. And also suggest whether this will effect the performance of portal as the intraspect database having very high volume of documents.
If you have any links or any documents on this, please provide me.
Thank You.
Regards,
Sridhar.
Edited by: SridarReddy on Jun 4, 2009 1:36 PM

Looking for a Third Party document editor

I am running a Palm IIIxe with Palm OS 3.5 on a Vista 32 bit laptop with Palm Desktop 7.2 with HOTSYNCSTETUP patch.
I am looking for a document editor that I can use so that I can create text documents and import them into my wordprocessor after sync.
Could someone help me with this before the summer semester starts in June.
Hearns
Post relates to: Palm IIIxe

I'm not sure if they made a version for the Palm IIIxe but you can look into Docs to Go. If that is not compatible or does not work browse around www.freewarepalm.com for a bit and you might find what you need.
I hope this information is useful.
-Pat

How to configure a new third party sales document type?

Hi SAP SD gurus,
I am new to the SAP world, I need your help in configuring a new third party sales document type for a site.
There are existing third party document types being used in the region, but the client wants an entirely new third party document type that is activated for CREDIT MANAGEMENT.
I just need your inputs, as how to go about it. If I copy from an existing third party sales doc. What additional steps do I need to follow? Like Item category config, copy control settings, and credit management.
Is there a need to create new billing types?
Also as per process, by creating a new document type, how will it affect the logistic processes, if any?
Thanks a lot in advance for your valuable inputs.

Hello,
You can create new document type under following customization path
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Define Sales Document Types
Now create new document type by copying the standard document type OR
Now go to
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Sales Document Item>>Define Item Categories
which is already defined for third party sales (TAS)
Now assign this iteme category to your new document type
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Sales Document Item>>Assign Item Categories
Assignment needs to be done in combination of sales document type and item category group (BANS)
Now
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Schedule Lines
Assignment of schedule line is already done as you are using the standard one.
Lastly, you may need to maintain copy control for your newly created sales document type for this go to
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Maintain Copy Control for Sales Documents
(Copying Control: Sales Document to Sales Document)
Here you can define copy control requirements.
BR,
Tushar

Third party sales order report

Hi
I got to prepare a report and the description is as follows:
"Report for discount pricing conditions manually entered in third party sales orders."
"Discount price reporting for manual pricing conditions in sales order processing (not in billing)"
"The report should reflect manual pricing discounts captured in the third party sales order.The relevant (third party) document types will be confirmed.Currently we have the following pricing condition type used for manual discount: YRD2- Manual Distr. Discount % YRD3- Manual Distr. Discount fixedThis report will facilitate the monitoring on the discounts given to the distributors.We still need to confirm the complete list of discount pricing conditions for the report.The report should extract the manual discount information based on the following criteria:Sales organization, period, sales order, customer (wholesaler and/or third party) and pricing condition type.Summing per sales order, customer, period should be enabled.The discounts should be displayed in document (sales order) currency. "
I didnt understand the following to get the purpose of this report:
1. what is this third party sales order ?
2. What is manual pricing condition?
3. what is manual pricing condition? how many types of conditions are there like this?
4. What is the actual analysis that can be made from the output of this report?
Please explain them in detail. Thank you.

THIRD PARTY SCENARIO
In third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
The processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally, can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing
If a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
When you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
You process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
In the first case, the third-party order is considered to be completely billed only when the invoiced quantity equals the order quantity of the sales order item. In the second case, each time a vendor invoice is received, a customer invoice is created for the quantity in the vendor invoice and the order is considered to be fully invoiced until the next vendor invoice is received.
If you have activated billing-relevance indicator F for item categories in Customizing, billing can refer to the goods receipt quantity instead of the incoming invoice quantity.
You can control whether the invoice receipt quantity or the quantity of goods received is relevant for billing in Customizing for copying control for billing at item level.
FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Goods receipt will be posted when ever the vendor ships the goods to our customer.
We will do this transaction in SAP using MIGO.
Invoice receipt is done when the Vendor sends us the invoice.. ( I.e Billing ).
It can be done using MIRO.
THe above two steps are standard and manual. There are many other ways that the actual process can happen. If the client follows EDI standards then the Goods receipt and Invoice receipt can be done through IDOCs automatically.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
Regards.

Third party - tax

Dear All
The following are the steps to process third party PO for my client business process.
1. Third party PR will come from PS module.
2. PR-IV process in MM module.
3. Purchase details now available in PS module.
3. From PS the third party document has to flow to SD.
4. By using RRB our SD people making bill to customer with the details captured from PS module.
Now my doubt is i am procuring material for amount 1040 including tax.
1000 is my base value
40(4%VAT)
total 1040
But in PS material value capture as 1000 only. Same in SD. They are getting price as 1000 only.
But our SD people want to make bill as 100040 as taxsome amount as margin.
Now what are steps required to get the tax amount in SD.
Kindly help me
Shobana

Hi,
Pl. check whether your VAT tax is inventorised or not.
Regards,

ASR netflow with third party tool

Hi ,
we have one issues where netflow data is not getting into the solar winds tool.in wireshark captures it shows netflow traffic is reaching upto the server.
found one forums and they highlighted one bug as below but its not affecting the release we are having.unable to find the exact bug ID in cisco .let me know if you can get any inputs and highlight the same.
below is the links and current details
https://thwack.solarwinds.com/thread/32146
current ASR version & related netflow config is attached.diesnt find any issue with the configuration .trying with another vendor tool as well and will check .
asr1002x-universal.03.10.01.S.153-3.S1-ext.SPA.bin
show ip flow export cache flow
IP packet size distribution (1317M total packets):
   1-32   64   96 128 160 192 224 256 288 320 352 384 416 448 480
   .000 .040 .023 .006 .004 .004 .030 .004 .002 .005 .004 .006 .002 .001 .000
    512 544 576 1024 1536 2048 2560 3072 3584 4096 4608
   .000 .000 .047 .029 .781 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000
IP Flow Switching Cache, 0 bytes
0 active, 0 inactive, 24710853 added
417778 ager polls, 0 flow alloc failures
Active flows timeout in 30 minutes
Inactive flows timeout in 15 seconds
last clearing of statistics never
Protocol         Total    Flows   Packets Bytes Packets Active(Sec) Idle(Sec)
--------         Flows     /Sec     /Flow /Pkt     /Sec     /Flow     /Flow
TCP-Telnet           5      0.0        61    42      0.0      31.1      31.2
TCP-FTP             52      0.0        20    85      0.0      14.3      30.9
TCP-FTPD             8      0.0        71    51      0.0       3.6      31.1
TCP-WWW         369465      0.0        15   694      1.3       7.2      30.9
TCP-SMTP           417      0.0        84    98      0.0       5.8      30.9
TCP-X                3      0.0         7   277      0.0       1.6      31.1
TCP-BGP          10911      0.0         1    69      0.0       3.0      30.9
TCP-other     19793896      4.6        28 1134    131.5       2.6      30.9
UDP-DNS         320124      0.0         1    79      0.0       0.0      30.9
UDP-NTP          65307      0.0         1    87      0.0       0.1      30.9
UDP-TFTP           854      0.0         1    51      0.0       0.0      30.9
UDP-Frag          1721      0.0         7    58      0.0       2.1      30.9
UDP-other      3850147      0.8       192 1244    172.6       3.7      30.9
ICMP            296732      0.0         3    62      0.2       4.2      30.9
Total:        24709642      5.7        53 1193    305.8       2.8      30.9
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HI Mike,
If you have third party Document Management System, then you can post two different message, i.e. service order in transaction details of the third party tool with link to document which would be posted to third party Document management server.
If you don't have third party document management system and what to use sap infrastructure, then you don't need to maintain attachment, maintain the link between the third party tool and SAP document repository, with some login utilities.
Best Regards,
Pratik Patel.
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Problems with third party package and file access

I am using a third party package that allows me to decode
multipart forms that I use to upload files to our server.
I have been able to write my own code (JSP) that both reads and
writes to our filesystem. However, when I try to upload a file
using the third party package the method I am using fails with
the following IO exception: The error message is "access is
denied." But the files get written and are usable (even binary
files). I have checked the directories and all the dirs I am
writing to have read, write and execute permission.
I have access to the code so when I duplicate the actual
methods used for writing (FileOutputStream.write(foo)) in my
JSP, it writes fine without exceptions. In fact, I use
FileOutputStream.write() in other code and it works fine. My
question is: why would FileOutputStream work in packages we have
developed and not in a third-party package. I have added the
codebase and filePermissions to <weblogic_home>\weblogic.policy
without any changes.
I am running WLS 5.1 and NT 4.0 with SP5.
Does this problem sound familiar to anyone?
thanks for any and all help,
saulj

HI Mike,
If you have third party Document Management System, then you can post two different message, i.e. service order in transaction details of the third party tool with link to document which would be posted to third party Document management server.
If you don't have third party document management system and what to use sap infrastructure, then you don't need to maintain attachment, maintain the link between the third party tool and SAP document repository, with some login utilities.
Best Regards,
Pratik Patel.
Reward with points if it is of any help to you!

Error on load: System.IO.IOException: The process cannot access the file : error in event viewer when users want to view documents from this third party deployed scan solution

Error on load: System.IO.IOException: The process cannot access the file
'\\server1\SCANSHARED\.pdf' because it is being used by another process.
   at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
   at System.IO.FileStream.Init(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, Int32 rights, Boolean useRights, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, FileOptions options, SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES secAttrs, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy)
   at System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, FileOptions options, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy)
   at System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, FileShare share)
   at System.IO.File.WriteAllBytes(String path, Byte[] bytes)
   at abc.Scan.Layouts.ICC.Scan.View.Page_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e)
I faced this error in event viewer when users want to view documents from this third party deployed scan solution
here I have two WFS servers and they configured with load balancing in F5 .
when I enable both servers in F5 I receive this error messages in 2nd server,
when users want to view documents
adil

Do you have antiVirus installed on the sharepoint servers?
These folders may have to be excluded from antivirus scanning when you use file-level antivirus software in SharePoint. If these folders are not excluded, you may see unexpected behavior. For example, you may receive "access denied" error messages when files
are uploaded.
Please follow this KB and exclude the folders from Scanning.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/952167
Please remember to mark your question as answered &Vote helpful,if this solves/helps your problem. ****************************************************************************************** Thanks -WS MCITP(SharePoint 2010, 2013) Blog: http://wscheema.com/blog

Error while creating the proxy object to connect to a third party tool.

Hi,
I tried creating a proxy object with the wsdl file. I even created a HTTP connection to the third party tool. but when I try to execute the whole proxy object, I am getting the below error. Can anyone help me on this?
"Proxy-Generierung: Fehler aufgetreten"
"Incorrect value: Entity "<<document>>"(92 /3788 ). end tag 'ul' does not match begin tag 'p'"
Thanks & Regards,
Veerabhadra Rao A.

do a check on the wsdl file and how you are passing values in the proxy. The tags for XML are not correct. Open the WSDL in IE and see there must be an error. Or probably when passing the actual values to the XML generated each element is not closed properly. Error says tags dont match.
Edited by: Kshamatha Eda on Mar 5, 2010 10:54 AM

Third party remittance simulation document

Hi Guys,
When i open third party remittance simulation posting document in PCP0 and when double click on vendor to see the details of payments it shows me following error.
"An explanation of some or all document lines is not possible".
Here is the detail explanation:
iagnosis
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rocedure
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   o   A document line item being incomplete. For more information, see the
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   o   The posting run having been created before the remittance
       functionality supported "detailed info on TP runs". In this case,
       the system will not be able to show the selection correctly. As a
       result, the displayed items may not add up to the total sum of the
       selected items.
We have selected the data on employee level on the config level.
On PRD posting, we can see the detailed item.
What could be the reason?
Mayuresh

Hi Mayuresh,
I am also receiving this error message. Were you able to view the simulation document?
Is it missing any authorization objects?
Thank you.
Lynn

Third Party Remittance Document Numbers

Hi All,
Client would like separate document numbers per vendor in the third party remittance posting. Currently one document number has several vendors. Does anyone know how to accomplish this?
Thanks,
Marlo

Hi Mayuresh,
I am also receiving this error message. Were you able to view the simulation document?
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Thank you.
Lynn

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