Third party sale order

Can any one simply explain thethird party sale order , and Mm role in it ?
pl reply
guru

Hi,
The basis of the Third Party PO is Sale Order. For third party PO, you should define the material as Traded Goods in Material Master. Define appropriate Purchasing & Sale characteristics for the material.
In Sale order, define the item category as TAS - Third Party. When you save the Sale Order, system generates the Sale order based PR, which you can convert to PO. The delivery address copied to the PO is the Customer Address in the Sale Order (Address of Sale to Party).
The Vendor then sends the material directly to the Customer & Invoices you for the material. You can do GRN based on confirmation from your customer. After Posting GRN, your stock of the material is not increased. You may then book the invoice of Vendor & then subsequently invoice on customer.
Regards,
Prashant Kolhatkar.
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When the item category is TAB/TAS - it will determine the schdule line categor CB/CS which leads to generate PR automatically.
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/cb/7f93e643b711d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/60/9ea1536fbd11d191820000e8a5f6e6/frameset.htm
http://www.sap-img.com/pp008.htm
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