Tiger 10.4.11 to SL...What am I up against?

I'm a bit confused. I have a MacBook running 10.4.11.
Can I even do an "upgrade" install from Tiger 10.4.11 to SL or do I need to do a "clean" install? If so, how does one go about a clean install?
How do I backup my Mail if I need to do a clean install? That is really the only thing that I'm concerned about. I can backup my iCal database and all my other data is stored in my user Documents/Music/etc. folders so backing that up isn't a problem. I have all my installers/discs for applications and software codes so that isn't worrisome either.
I've checked at the Snow Leopard Compatibility link given in a message with tips on upgrading and most of my software is ok. I'm a bit nervous about MS Office 2004 (not that 2008 looks like it would be any better) but there are other options there like iWork or OpenOffice if need be. Is Rosetta that is needed for some software to run in SL part of SL or does it need to be downloaded? Upgrading Adobe Illustrator CS2 and Quicken 2005 might be in order but we'll see what happens.
Sorry for the goofy questions but I've never upgraded a Mac before.

1. Tiger users do not need to buy the Box Set unless they want iLife '09 & iWork '09 products in addition to Snow Leopard. The OS product (the DVD & the license to use it) is the same whether bought by itself or as part of the box set.
2. The standard (& only directly provided) Snow Leopard "upgrade" install option works equally well if it is upgrading a Mac from Tiger or from Leopard.
3. The standard install option will automatically install Rosetta if the installer detects any apps on the target drive that require it. The same is true for QuickTime 7 Player if it detects a QT Pro licence in a folder on that drive. It even runs the equivalent of Disk Utility's Verify Disk step on the target drive & won't try to do the upgrade if it fails that check.
4. Apple recommends that the Repair Permissions step be done while started up from the volume with the items to repair on it. IOW, don't run Repair Permissions on the normal startup drive while booted from the installer DVD unless there is no alternative. The value of doing this repair before installing Snow Leopard is dubious anyway: the actual install (done after the Mac restarts from the DVD automatically) is done in single user (root) mode, so it really doesn't matter what the permissions are set to.
5. While the installer works well enough if you start by booting from the DVD directly, it is better to follow Apple's instructions & just double-click on the "Install Mac OS X" application icon on the DVD while started up normally. This allows that app to use the network settings on the startup drive to connect to Apple's database of incompatible items to check for updated items & if found, move them to the "Incompatible Software" folder it creates automatically if needed. If you boot directly from the DVD, only the DVD's own list of incompatible items is referenced & doesn't include the several items aded since the DVD was released.
Basically, the "Install Mac OS X" application is a pre-install preparation utility that does several different things & then causes the Mac to reboot into the the DVD's installer app, which does the actual install.

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The last reads the way I meant as in physically getting to see it.
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