Time Machine and Accessing iPhoto library on an external HD

Hi
I am new to Time Machine. I didn't see a community for it, so I am posting here.
I have TIme Machine set to backup to an external HD (Clickfree).
When I check on the iphoto library stored on the HD for the TIme Machine, I am unable to open the library.
How do I confirm that my iphoto library is being properly backed up by time machine?
Will it not open because iphoto is not installed on the external HD with the Time Machine backup?
Thanks
A

Time Machine provides a "versioned backup" of your files. Yes, it does provide a backup through time of your photos. You can restore your photos through the Time Machine interface on your Mac.
Obviously, if the drive on your Mac dies, then, you won't be able to access your TM backup until you repair your Mac. Restoring from your TM backup could take hours.
It is recommended that in addition to TM you perform a bootable cloned backup of the HD in your Mac using Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper! to an external drive. Booting up from your cloned drive gets your Mac up and running within minutes.

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Thanks but as mentioned all is intact, even at step 3 I can see the current library in Home/Pictures/iPhoto Library which has no photos, but when I access time machine any point before the NOW option the iphoto library in Home/Pictures/iPhoto Library is missing from the finder window.
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Ok. Add me to the moron list. I guess I am an over zealous trash emptier. Can I retrieve those images from the vastness by entering my time machine and restore the library from a previous date (when I wasn't a moron?)

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