Time Machine backup of LR on external

Does Time Machine automatic backups change how LR catalog backups can be handled?
I have original dng master files, lrcat file, and lrdata file on an external drive. It's a bus powered FW 800 that I keep with me between home and office. Both the home and office Macs have other externals used for Time Machine backups.
What's the risk of keeping lrcat backups (LR does one each time it opens) on external if Time Machine backs up hourly?
Thank you

Ans to Q1 - only the lrcat file is backed up!
Ans to Q2 -The size of both depends on a number of factors, including: number of images in catalog, size and quality setting for previews (see attachment). The following examples are based on high quality Standard-sized Previews at 1680 pixels:
Example 1 - 2,560 raw images with full sized (1:1) previews built for each = 49.6MB lrcat file and 7.8GB lrdata file.
Example 2 - 22,400 raw images with only Standard-sized previews = 302MB lrcat file and 20.3GB lrdata file.
Example 3 - same files numbers as example 2, but 1:1 previews built for each - 302MB lrcat and 60.3GB
The following FAQ provides some insight on how the previews are stored and why dumping them doesn't always mean that they go away: http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b63219

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If you have more than one user account, these instructions must be carried out as an administrator.
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You are welcome.
I don't think there is a need to start a new discussion unless you want to.
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Apple support article. Don't let the title bother you. Look at Additional Information, which explains what happens when a backup gets interrupted. I also am including a link for troubleshooting. C3 explains what you can try if the backup is interrupted.
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ivan wrote:
How Can I Migrate My Time Machine Backups To A New External Hard Drive?
I have a external hard drive that has 500 GBs left, but I want to buy a larger drive.
Hi iVain
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RobCob wrote:
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js

js,
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I've read through a lot of posts about this and I'm stuck.
I have a MacBookPro and a Mac Air.
Both are on the same WiFi network.
The MacBookPro has a firewire drive attached.
The MacBookPro has File Sharing on and a "TimeMachine" partition on the external FW drive is "shared".
From the Air I can "Connect As" a standard user account on the MacBook Pro.
I can "Mount" the "TimeMachine" partition on the Air
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Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated!
-- Randy

It might help to backup and tell you what I'm trying to accomplish, overall.
I am trying to use Time Machine backup for two computers on a large external FW drive. The FW drive will be connected to my MBP and the Air will use the WiFi shared connection. Earlier you answered another question of mine about merging Time Machine backups and I realized that the best approach is to start fresh with a new external HD that I can reformat, etc.
I use SuperDuper and Drive Genius as my HD tools.
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My steps this morning were aimed at verifying that WiFi Time Machine backup works, but, maybe with your guidance and suggestions I can just move directly to a suggested configuration.
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seems to be the essential problem.
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Stopping backup.
Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:* -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error
Error: (-8062) SrcErr:NO Copying / WORK/clientname/pdfs.zip to /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb/myname's iMac/2010-06-29-220723.inProgress/EFF47981-66BF-4C86-BA7F-7F802EC954F2/Macintos h HD/ WORK/KeriGans
Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:* -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error
Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:* -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error
Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:* -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error
Copied 12301 files (7.4 GB) from volume Macintosh HD.
Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:* -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error
Copy stage failed with error:11
Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:* -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error
Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:* -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error
Error writing to backup log. NSFileHandleOperationException:* -[NSConcreteFileHandle writeData:]: Input/output error
Error: (-36) Creating directory myname’s iMac 2
Error: (-36) Creating directory myname’s iMac 3
Error: (-36) Creating directory myname’s iMac 4
Error: (-36) Creating directory myname’s iMac 5
Error: (-36) Creating directory myname’s iMac 6
Error: (-36) Creating directory myname’s iMac 7
Error: (-36) Creating directory myname’s iMac 8
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