Time & Pitch Machine Basics

I read the manual, but it doesn't say anything about this:
When I import a song (.mp3 or .aif file) into Logic Express 8, I double click on the track and the Sampler Editor comes on in the bottom.
Then I click on the Factory tab in order to access the Time and Pitch Machine, but it is DIMMED.
Why on Earth? What do I need to do to make sure I can get it? Where do I have to click first? I have succeeded in getting the Time and Pitch Machine to work before, so I know I am doing something wrong or not doing something. Please HELP! Thanks in advance, Claudio Lessa

I would like to thank the 121 people who have read my posting so far, although no solution for the problem has been posted.
Please do not bother: after about a week -- and despite absolutely no clues given in any manual associated to this Logic Express 8 -- I found a hint on a book saying that a file must be an .aiff in order to be edited. I tried converting the .mp3 I had into an .aiff and... presto! It worked.
So... if any of the 121 who read the posting so far did not have the answer, it is here.
I would really like to see Apple to come down from its IBM-like posture and offer step-by-step manuals we could really use, instead of having to read about esoteric theories about how the sound goes into the computer and is processed. It is not everyone in this global economy who lives very close to resources/people who can solve last minute problems. Forums should be there to help even the most basic questions (in my case this one did not) but nothing replaces a good, detailed, step-by-step manual.
Thank you for the attention.

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Running L9.1.1 on an iMac Core Duo w/Snow Leopard 10.6.2. With or w/o plugins loaded, Time&Pitch Machine crashes out to desktop when entering numbers from either keypad or alphanumeric keys. Deleted all plists w/o change in crash behavior. Also no change after creating Empty Project w/single audio track, mono or stereo. Can't find any reports of this crash in other forums. Otherwise 9.1.1 is stable. Thanks for thoughts on this possible bug.

hmm I was fortunate not to have this in 8 or 9.0.2
but this is a definite/repeatable bug in 9.1.1 which causes crash
sample edit window
then select time and pitch or any Factory menu items
on exiting window or pressing screen set 1 key command crash happens evey time 1 track of audio no plugins
cannot work with 9.1.1 as a result
and you didnt fix screen set/display text only jumping window bug anyway, even when you said you had on release notes!!
come on apple

Using the Time & Pitch Machine

When I compared LE and LP, I noticed that LE has no pitch correction. After buying it I found that when opening up a track there is a Time & Pitch Machine. Can this be used for pitch correction? I was trying to mess with it today but my computer was not working properly so when I tried to play, no sound would come out. If I cut out individual words, could I then open that particular audio segment and adjust its pitch?

Hi,
LE does have the Enhance Pitch plugin, that I often use. It has 2 controls: how fast it responds, and what scale it uses (or chromatic). Works quite well! Much easier than the Time&Pitch machine or the Pitch Shifter plugin.
The Vocal Transformer is fun, too, by the way. Great if you need a vocal from the opposite sex, and noone's available. Just sing it and shift the pitch up/down approprialtely.
Regards,
Jaap

I/O error in time-pitch machine!?!

hello
am using the time-pitch machine to speed up a stereo drum track (classic mode). the time-pitch machine keeps freezing after processing approx. half of the samples and then gives me an error message: I/O error, result code = -36?
anybody got a clue?
thx, monobeat

yeah i've had these before. its probably a corrupt audio file. try saving it to a different location and then doing the processing. if it keeps cropping up on files from the same drive, start suspecting the drive.
do drive maintenence stuff quick.

Time&pitch machine error -5000

Whenever i try to use the time&pitch machine i get the following error.
Insufficient access privileges error -5000.
I therefor cannot use the time&pitch machine.
this happens with imported loops (aiff), loops created with audio instruments as well as loops recorded via external gear.
I have checked that i have 'read&write' privileges on all the audio files.
Does anyone know what this means?
Logic Pro7.1
10.4.2

The 7.1.1 update might very well resolve your issues.
7.1 has been known to break Time/Pitch action, at least in a TDM environment.
I've never had problems with Logics own Time&Pitch machine though, only 3rd party stuff.
Those problems are gone for me with 7.1.1 so hey, you never know!
If you're already running 7.1.1, just disregard this post.
ATB,
Erik

Is this a bug? Time Pitch Machine Changes Gain Levels

Logic Pro 9.1.4, macpro dual quad 2.93mhz, osx 10.6.8
i'm altering the 'speed' of some of my 88.2khz aif files by a very small amount using Time and Pitch Machine, in Classic and Free modes ( -1.3% / -22cents apprx)
but to my surprise i noticed that the levels of the file dramatically drops after a process.
i expected some minr changes as its altering the length very slightly - but in the process i'm losing a great deal of level.
eg: one original file that as un-normalised has a gain of 56.41% ( - 4.94dBu aprx), has dropped after the pitch change to 27.66% (-11.16dB) !
thats a major loss of levels, and looks to be half of the original.
can somebody explain if this is a fault?

Well, the 44.1 test is just a test, you don't have to destructively convert your 88.2 files, just use 44.1 converted copies. I do agree that the drop in gain seems too much. It could well be that it is a bug related to the sample rate, so that's why I proposed the test. As for fidelity, you really do not loose much (if at all, audibly) when going from 88.2 to 44.1. Going from 24 bits to 16 bits at 88.2 will have a much greater (negative) impact then going from 88.2 to 44.1 at 24 bits.
24/44.1 is much better than 16/88.2.
Simple rule: if you can't hear the difference (test it blind! using ABXer http://emptymusic.com/software/ABXer.html
(not sure if it is SnowLeopard compatible though... my Intel Mac is unavailable right now, typing from my old PPS G4 on Leopard)
And, if you simply leave your original 88.2 files intact (use copies), you can experiment and listen without discarding your original highest resolution recordings.

Fatter vocals via Time+Pitch Machine?

I'm looking to utilize the pitch change feature in Time and Pitch Machine to make a vocal "thicker". Now I understand this is gonna be a matter of opinion and one's ear, but I am not sure as to the settings and how to go from there. I can screw around and pick this or that till I hear something that sounds alright, but I'd rather have some background as to what I'm really affecting. Not sure how many cents to transpose or anything like that. Any suggestions would be well appreciated. Thanks

Do you mean to create a vocal double track to thicken the sound? In that case, I wouldn't bother with the time and pitch machine. Well, you could I suppose create a copy, then shift the pitch on the copy by a couple of cents up or down, and perhaps shift the formants a little to change the colour somewhat. But you may as well do this in realtime by copying the audio to another track and using the vocal transformer plug in. Or, another trick is to use the pitch correction plug in on your double track, with light settings (as in not too aggressive on the pitch correction speed), because the way it will adjust pitch in real time will make random variations happen compared to the original track. It will create more of a realistic sense that it was a separate vocal take because the pitch will have variation over time compared to your main vocal line. Then after the pitch correction plug, you could insert a vocal transformer (or AU pitch plug in) to just slightly adjust the overall pitch by a couple of cents and maybe mess with the formants slightly as well, to get some light chorusing.
If you want to spend some money, look at the latest Antares EVO plug ins, they make a whole range of plug ins specifically for doubling, tripling, or even creating a fake 'choir' out of a single line vocal. Might be worth a look.
Otherwise, you could also just use the classic mix techniques for vocal thickening.. Make copies of the original to new tracks, then use a bit of delay (in the inspector) to slightly shift the timing. Then set up an aux strip with plug ins such as chorus or ensemble, that kind of thing.

Can't access Time and Pitch Machine

I have highlighted the audio region in the sample editor that I want to transpose and speed up but Time and Pitch Machine in the Factory folder remains greyed-out. I have tried every possible combination between the arrange window and sample editor. HELP, PLEASE!!

gonewest wrote:
I converted the region and time and pitch machine still remained greyed-out using the new region. Any ideas?
Have a look at the permissions of the the Audio path folder where you converted the region or just copy the converted audio file on the desktop and import from there to check if it is a permission issue. If it is the issue you have not convert the original region at all - just set the permissions...
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Urgent advice on Logics Time & Pitch

This will sound like a crazy idea - but here goes... I have a track coming out soon and in discussing this with the radio pluggers they have asked if I could look at speeding up the track by 3 or 4 bpm to give it a better chance of playlisting.
So.... I spoke to my mastering engineer at Abbey Road who uses Sadie for Mastering.. Unfortunately his mastering room at Abbey road is being refitted this week so he suggested taking the Master and just speed it up in Logic. He says he is able to do this in Sadie without artifacts...
I have done a couple of tests in Logic but nothing I am happy with.
I can go back to the original project file and systematically go through the project but wondered if any of you pro's had any experience with this and if so what tips you would give
Cheers
Ivan

Don't try to change pitch and time independently as this is what causes the artifacts. Just resample the file with the proper ratio to give you the desired speedup and accept a change of tuning. It will sound odd to your ears first, but it will work fine for everybody else.
Even the best time stretching algorithms (i.e. leaving pitch unchanged while changing the tempo) introduce one or another kind of artifacts and are always a compromise.
To use logic's time and pitch machine for resampling just link pitch and time.
Good luck,
Jazz

HOW CAN YOU PROCESS AN AUDIO FILE IN LABVIEW?I NEED TO TIME-PITCH SCALE IT

hello guys.
can you insert an audio file into labview for further processing?i need to get an audio file (stored on my computer) and further process it for time-pitch scale.does anybody know how?any pointers will much be appreciated.
regards
alex

hi there
open the "Graphics & Sound" palette from the functions menu to use vis for reading/Writing wavefiles, search the examples shipped with LV for first steps. use the VIs in the "Analyze" functions palette to modify the data.
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I recently "lost" some photos and tried going into Time Capsule/Machine to restore them. I went to applications, opened Time Machine, got the "Star Wars" like screen, scrolled to the appropriate date (I thought), clicked on that date, went to my user name, clicked on Pictures and then clicked on iPhoto Library. It asked me if I wanted to create a copy called iPhoto Library2 and I said yes.
Next I clicked on restore and it began restoring my iPhoto Library from that day. Unfortunately it created copy after copy after copy of each photo, hundreds!! And it broke down each photo into faces. Again and again and again. Bottom line is that since I must have picked the wrong date my pics weren't there.
I decided to delete iPhoto Library 2 and there were some 130,000 items to delete. Then it took about 24 hours to secure empty my trash.
So my question is how can I avoid this next time? I really want to get these photos back but am afraid to try it again.
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You might post this query on the iPhoto forum and perhaps someone there can provide an answer.
I tried this on my MBP and it seems that you have to restore the entire iPhoto Library. What I did was put the current library in a separate folder on the desktop and then I restored the library from a prior date. If you were to do that, you then could extract the desired photos and then delete the restored library. Then place the current library back to the original location and import the desired photos.
Not tidy but it seems it will work.
Ciao.

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hi guys, just wanted to point some attention to some great software that is available freely to any manufacturer that creates sequencers. it's time/pitch expansion/compression software and it's called Dirac...for a respectable price there's a full blown version too that offers amazing features.
let's hope that apple include this in their next release of logic pro; whenever that will be i don't know.
check it out and let's hope that Apple see this!
http://www.bernsee.com/dspdimension.com/index.html?dirac.html

It would be great to have it natively in FCP to alleviate the need to export/import which is time consuming.
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HT3275 Has anyone encountered this message on their time capsule/machine? Time Machine couldn't complete the backup because the backup disk image"/Volumes/Patti's Time Capsule/Patti's MacBook Pro.sparsebundle" is already in use"?

Has anyone encountered this message on their time capsule/machine? Time Machine couldn't complete the backup because the backup disk image"/Volumes/Patti's Time Capsule/Patti's MacBook Pro.sparsebundle" is already in use"?

If you reboot the computer it should fix the problem. Also see the first link under More Like This to the right of this page:
I am received an error on my Time Capsule which states the backup disk image "Volumes/Data/MacBook Pro. sparse bundle? is already in use. so time machine couldn't complete the backup to time capsule - any suggestion

TIME-PITCH SCALE...WHAT AM I DOING WRONG????

hello guys
i imported a wave file (mono) from my computer into labview for pitch estimation using the cepstrum algorithm (iFFT{log(abs(x))}).supposedly now the output of the cepstrum would be a clear peak showing the pitch of the signal right?why i am not getting anything like that?
i need to estimate the pitch so i can further do time-pitch scale of that signal using the TD-PSOLA algo.
i have attached my program below in LABVIEW 7 with a zip file containing a sound example.does anybody can suggest where i am wrong (obviously i am)?
any help is much appreciated
regards
alex
Attachments:
TD-PSOLA ALGO.vi ‏155 KB
44.1k.16bit.mono.wave.zip ‏460 KB

You should use the 'Sound File Read Simple.vi' to read-in the .wav file, not the 'Read from SGL File.vi'.
See the attached picture.
-Franz
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Unbenannt.PNG ‏7 KB

Will easing time capsule/machine drive erase time capsule/machine trash

will easing time capsule/machine drive erase time capsule/machine trash which will not delete

Not sure exactly what you are asking here.
If you erase the Time Capsule drive, all previously stored data on the drive will be wiped clean.
The Time Capsule drive will be in the same condition that it was in when it was new, and you had not yet backed up any data to the drive.
Is that what you want to accomplish?

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