Timecode Torment continued, Still out of sync Online.

Hi there. I have just performed a timecode offset to compensate for my out of sync online. This was made possible with the advice of Rienk, who suggested that I find an obvious point in my OfflineEdit Reel 01 and the Reel in the Deck and sync the timecodes. However After onlining again, I have noticed that the footage is only synced in parts. After making comparrisons with the timecodes of the offline and the deck I have noticed that the offset increases over the duration of the tape. One comparrioson half way through the tape showed a diffenrced in TC of 4 frames while 10 minutes on the differnce was 15 frames. Now I think I have every right to be very paniced. I am not equiped to deal with this sort of thing. I don't know what to do and the Machine room is a huge mess. At what point to I have to reEdit, or Bring in an entire tape uncompressed and piece together those parts which are not in sync. Could this be a result of using multiclip to edit? Why do these things happen to people, why do the mathematical demons pick on me.
If you have any answers, suggestions, good places to hide, or can recommend a good home for the bewildered, please let me know
Sincrely
Peter

Hi, I am experiencing some of the same issues. I am wondering about your sources/assets... how they were recorded? Are they all imported into FCP? I record mostly live events and frequently use external audio recording devices other than cameras. In post, all the audio must be synchronized before I begin editing the multi-cam project. I have tested the audio recording of my cameras and multi-track computer software. I find that over the time span of one hour the cameras (and audio) remain in perfect sync while the computer multi-track recording may be off by several frames. Although the recording is in perfect at the begining, over the period of one hour, sync is lost. Audio software applications have the ability to "correct" this problem by "stretching" or "shrinking" the audio track based on the offset.

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