Tracking a user shape

When I create a custom user shape in the geometry room, say a shape around a person, how can I then track that shape? Do I have to use the manual tracker in conjunction with the user shape? Any insight is appreciated.

You don't track the shape, you track the object. Create a motion database by picking an in and out point and letting the analysis proceed. You are not forced to use the manual tracker unless the base video is so bad that the auto tracker can't follow the target. That file then is attached to the user shape, which, in turn, is attached to a secondary. The COLOR tracker is only single-point and is only as good as the point that you pick. It will not do any corner-pinning or anything to the user shape other than X-Y translations, so if your target object changes in any way, you will eventually wind up hand-animating it.
Good luck.
jPo

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