Trashed items remain visible in Smart Album

When I delete an item from a smart album (with Cmd-Delete) it is supposed to be trashed. Indeed it appears in the trash, but also remains visible in the browser view of the smart album. Only when I empty the trash, the item disappears from the album.
Is this behaviour by design (and if so, how can I avoid it), or is it a bug?
Greetings from Holland,
Koen

Put another way, you are only deleting the link here not a version or master. It is just the way Aperture works, to save space on your hard drive. You can make multiple "copies" hundreds in fact but they do not Reside on the hard drive, only a link to one master telling Aperture to show you the particular image in any of the hundred places you put them. So, delete one and there is nothing to see. You will only see an image in the trash, if it is a version or a master. Read my other Post carefully it is very important to understand how Aperture works, and a good workflow to follow for trashing your unwanted stuff.
Hope thats better. Allan

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