Trouble with a SONY HDV deck HVR-M10U

I have a DSR-11 that operates thru firewire. It works properly. A client recently loaned me an HDV deck and gave me some HDV tapes to digitize. So I plugged that into the deck's Firewire connection. When I do the EZ setup for the HDV codec, it says it's not connected. Athe Mac Pro end I have a Firewire 400 cable end converted to Firewire 800. That works fine for the DSR-11. So now I don't know what to do. I'm thinking there's some way to capture without control using composite video out and RCA audio jacks. I have a decklink extreme card but I don't think it accepts composite video, only Y-in. I'm out of ideas.

When you choose HDV from the Easy Set Up, FCP looks to find an HDV deck.
If the HDV deck is set to down convert to DV, the deck identifies itself to the firewire bus as a DV deck and FCP reports not being able to find an HDV deck.
Not saying this is the problem, but it is something to check.
MtD

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