TSV_TNEW_PAGE_ALLOC_FAILED and TSV_TNEW_BLOCKS_NO_ROLL_MEMORY

Hello,
Happy New Year 2007 to all!
We are using SAP R/3 4.6C, kernel 46D_EXT Patch 2271, Oracle 9.2.0.5 and HP-UX 11.23, 16GB RAM, 17GB swap.
Lately, at the end of this year, many ABAP runtime errors <b>TSV_TNEW_PAGE_ALLOC_FAILED and TSV_TNEW_BLOCKS_NO_ROLL_MEMORY</b> ocured.
Some times there is MEMORY_NO_MORE_PAGING.
I have read some notes regarding this issue.
1. Maybe I should increase the ztta/roll_area, current is 3000000 and to change into 6500000.
2. Can you please advice me regarding the rdisp/ROLL_SHM = 16384 (32768) and rdisp/ROLL_MAXFS = 80000 (131072), should I also increase them into the values in the brackets (there is a note which has the statement 'Must be adjusted if you change ztta/roll_area')?
3. What about the ztta/roll_first = 1 and ztta/roll_extension = 2000000000, should I also change them?
4. Regarding the Paging area, what should I do?
rdisp/PG_SHM = 8192 (32768) and rdisp/PG_MAXFS = 65536 (131072) , should I change into the values in the brackets?
em/initial_size_MB = 4092
THANK YOU in advance,
Ruzica

Hello Mark,
Yes, I should have told you, the previous day offline backup was performed on the instance, that's why the buffers are clean.
<b>Roll area sizes [kB]</b>
Used      Max. used      In SHM      On disk
46.264       68.856     131.072      508.928 (today)
3.608       68.856     131.072      508.928
3.688       76.224     131.072      508.928
3.440       76.224     131.072      508.928
3.384       76.224     131.072      508.928
3.384       76.224     131.072      508.928
5.904       76.224     131.072      508.928
3.520       76.224     131.072      508.928
3.520       76.224     131.072      508.928
3.384        8.064     131.072      508.928
3.384        9.032     131.072      508.928
3.576       56.656     131.072      508.928
3.576       56.656     131.072      508.928
3.576       56.656     131.072      508.928
3.520       55.464     131.072      508.928
3.384       24.248     131.072      508.928
2.112      119.536     131.072      508.928
2.112       66.040     131.072      508.928
3.384        8.472     131.072      508.928
3.384        8.472     131.072      508.928
3.744       54.456     131.072      508.928
4.048       54.456     131.072      508.928
<b>Page area sizes [kB]</b>
Used      Max. used      In SHM       On disk
69.968      211.624       65.536      458.752 (today)
    56      211.624       65.536      458.752
    56      524.280       65.536      458.752
    56      524.280       65.536      458.752
    56      524.280       65.536      458.752
    56      524.280       65.536      458.752
7.632      524.280       65.536      458.752
    56      524.280       65.536      458.752
    56      479.912       65.536      458.752
    56       16.072       65.536      458.752
    56       16.552       65.536      458.752
    56      278.512       65.536      458.752
    56      278.512       65.536      458.752
    56      278.512       65.536      458.752
    56      271.592       65.536      458.752
    56      118.384       65.536      458.752
    32      290.640       65.536      458.752
    32      256.112       65.536      458.752
    56       16.096       65.536      458.752
    56       16.096       65.536      458.752
    56      360.872       65.536      458.752
    56      360.872       65.536      458.752
        <b> Extended memory sizes [kB]</b>              
Used            Max. used            Available  
2.543.616            4.186.112           4.186.112 (today)
   77.824            4.186.112           4.186.112
   73.728            4.186.112           4.186.112
   69.632            4.186.112           4.186.112
   69.632            4.186.112           4.186.112
   69.632            4.186.112           4.186.112
  180.224            4.186.112           4.186.112
   73.728            4.186.112           4.186.112
   77.824            4.186.112           4.186.112
   69.632              139.264           4.186.112
   69.632              126.976           4.186.112
   73.728            3.178.496           4.186.112
   73.728            3.178.496           4.186.112
   73.728            3.178.496           4.186.112
   77.824            3.178.496           4.186.112
   73.728            1.245.184           4.186.112
   73.728            4.186.112           4.186.112
   77.824            4.186.112           4.186.112
   69.632              462.848           4.186.112
   69.632              462.848           4.186.112
   77.824            4.186.112           4.186.112
   86.016            4.186.112           4.186.112
How it looks like?
Can I shortly resume about the memory parameters?
1. em/initial_size_MB, regarding the 16GB of  the RAM, should I increase to example: 8188 (the maximum value in RZ11 is 8196)?
2. ztta/roll_area to 6500000 ?
3. What about the rdisp/PG_MAXFS should it be increased for 50% = 131072 ? And the rdisp/PG_SHM to increase to 32768 ?
4. What do you think about the ztta/roll_extension = 2000000000, should I increase or to decrease the parameter?
5. And the roll area is there need to change the rdisp/ROLL_SHM = 16384 (32768) and rdisp/ROLL_MAXFS = 80000 (131072)?
Thanks in advance.
Many regards,
Ruzica

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    15.04.2009 00:38:24 * ztta/roll_extension........... 8000683008                              *            R8           050          S
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