Two Extremes, Three Expresses: Want Best Coverage & Bandwidth

My apologies in advance if this is a bit convoluted or poorly articulated, but here goes…
I have two AirPort Extreme Base Stations—a newer 802.11n (AEBSn) and an older A1034 saucer model (AEBSg)—as well as three AirPort Express (AX) units. Each of the AX units is of the older, 802.11g variety.
At the moment, I have the AEBSn connected directly to my Verizon FiOS router by way of an Ethernet cable, both in the basement. On my main floor, one floor up from the basement, I have my AEBSg wirelessly connected as a WDS relay. Doing this greatly improves the range of wireless coverage. Suffice to say, with this setup I'm afforded adequate coverage throughout the main floor, and even (to a lesser degree) a bit outside the house, which is nice during the warmer months.
Attached to the AEBSn is a four-port USB hub that allows me to connect a printer and an external hard drive. All my iTunes music is stored on said drive.
I have an Intel-based iMac that stays in the family room, and I have an older PowerBook G4 that goes anywhere around the house. Each of the AX units is located on the main floor, streaming AirTunes music to either the family room, the kitchen or the living room. Pretty cool!
Now my quandary…
Using the AEBSg as a WDS relay extends the range, but hampers the bandwidth. Checking my download speed using Speedtest.net, I find that I download on the main floor at anywhere between 4 Mbps and 6 Mbps when connecting to the WDS. If I wirelessly connect to the FiOS router, without using the WDS as a middleman, I download just over 18 Mbps.
I can't just stick with the faster FiOS wireless connection, because then I lose the ability to stream iTunes and such. What do I need to change (hardware, software, configurations, whatever) in order to get my speeds up to that 18-Mbps mark? Also, is the 18 Mbps acceptable. I would've expected it to be even higher than that with FiOS, but I'm not sure—maybe that's a typical rate.
Any help at all is much appreciated.
- Keith

To add yet another wrinkle…
Most likely, I'll be getting an AXn to extend the AEBSn, per your suggestion. My understanding is that, if even one device on the network is operating at "g" rather than "n" speed, every device ends up operating "g" speed. My questions are (a) is my understanding correct, and if so, (b) could I somehow use my AEBSg to handle only "g" speed devices while having the AEBSn handle all the "n" speed devices? (My AEBSn is not the newer, dual-band version.)
- Keith

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For four years Ive been unable to use my home network as anticipated. I have ADSL connection with O2, airport extreme, three expresses, two minis 10.6.8 and 10.7.3, and two pros 10.6.8 and 10.7.3, and a cinema thbolt display. Id like to use bbc iplayer.

I am unable to stream video and I lose connection frequently. Ive tried it using wireless connection and with ethernet. Ive tried using the O2 router (%series) as a modem for the extreme, Ive tried using the O2 without the extreme - not poss to extend network but MUCH faster, and Ive tried using a variety of other routrers and modems. My flat is 10m x 6m, there are no other wireless devices within or immediately adjoining except for my wireless landline phone that I have changed three times. Every single piece of my home network has been to the genius bar at least three times and the entire network with all devices has been taken twice. Genius bar have found either no fault or no explanation. Applecare dont seem able to tie their own shoe laces and have been worse than useless, suggesting things like checking a plug fuse (good advice but not relevant). I met a chap socially who turned out to be an apple employee home networking specialist. He offered to look at it and came to my flat. I quote him now: "F**k me, its just not supposed to do tha., Theres something seriously wrong with the system. It's an Apple problem completely". However, despite repeated requests I have not been invited to escalate the issue beyond the genius bar. Enen though everything possible is apple (they dont make a modem for ADSL??), all I get from them is it must be the fault of something else.
PS Ive had my O2 connection checked tens of times and paid for a bt engineer to check my line 4 times.
PPS The thunderbolt display was sold to me after I refused one on the grounds that the location of my mini was more than 2 metres from the display, and the salesperson reassured me that the thunderbolt connection was universally available and that would have no problem connecting the display to my mini 5 metres away.
I may well not be too bright when it comes to computers, but with their attitude of there being NO SUCH THING AS A BAD/FAULTY APPLE PRODUCT, ONLY SILLY CUSTOMERS WHO HAVENT WORKED OUT HOW TO USE THEM YET, I wish I will soon see their brand will rot in commercial oblivion ****. I have focused this on home netwrking but that is the tip of the iceberg. However, having invested so much of my life and my money in what I have, please can any of you good people out there show me the foolish error of my simple ways?

Hi Zac, sorry to hear about your troubles, but that's why us other users are here to try to help in these instances.
Open Console in Utilities & see if there are any clues or repeating messages when this connection drop happens.

Hooking up more than three Expresses to an Extreme

I have an Apple Extreme that is connected, by ethernet, to three Expresses throughout my house. There is one area that does not get service so I'd like to add one more Express. How do I do that since the Extreme only has three outputs? If it requires some type of splitter, do you connect the modem output to the splitter or to the Extreme, and what type of splitter will work? Thanks in advance for any input you can provide.

How do I do that since the Extreme only has three outputs?
Add a 5-port Gigabit Ethernet switch to one of the LAN <--> ports on the AirPort Extreme. One of the ports on the switch will be used to connect to a LAN <--> port on the AirPort Extreme, so that will leave room for four Ethernet connections to the switch.
In addition, you will still have two spare Ethernet ports on the AirPort Extreme.
Something like this, for example:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122128
If you anticipate more growth on your network, switches are also available in 8-port, 16-port, etc varieties.

Best way to extend WiFi network with extreme and express using access contr

I just got my new AirPort Extreme and configured it to use 2,4 and 5 GHz. I also would like to use Access control. When I configure my AirPort Express to extend my network I see two strange things happen.
1. On both devices I have to configure access control. I figured this is an extension of the Extreme, the Express uses the same list
2. When I finished configuring I see the Extreme and Express flash heavily green and my wired network is becoming extreme slow. I think the two devices are talking to each other, but packets are dropping??
I tried a hard and soft reset of the both devices, no solution.
Does anyone recognize this problem and maybe you can tell me what the best way is to configure both devices.
Is there also a way to configure WEP instead of WPA for using my Nintendo DS.
The firmware I use is 7.5.2

I just got my new AirPort Extreme and configured it to use 2,4 and 5 GHz. I also would like to use Access control. When I configure my AirPort Express to extend my network I see two strange things happen.
1. On both devices I have to configure access control. I figured this is an extension of the Extreme, the Express uses the same list
2. When I finished configuring I see the Extreme and Express flash heavily green and my wired network is becoming extreme slow. I think the two devices are talking to each other, but packets are dropping??
I tried a hard and soft reset of the both devices, no solution.
Does anyone recognize this problem and maybe you can tell me what the best way is to configure both devices.
Is there also a way to configure WEP instead of WPA for using my Nintendo DS.
The firmware I use is 7.5.2

Please Help: old Airport Extreme, new Aiport Express, want to WDS

Hi,
I'm sorry if this topic has been covered before, but I can't seem to find a post with my exact situation. I have a G4 desktop (no Airport card) connected to an Airport Extreme Base Station (about 2 years old) which is connected to a 2wire DSL model. My wife and I have been able to use the wireless network in our house for a year or two now with our laptops (PowerBook and few month old MacBook Pro). We've been able to connect to the internet and can print to our laser printer with no problem. However our living room is just out of range (one bar and usually drops out) so I thought extending the range of the Base Station with an Airport Express would allow us better access from the place we hang out in the most.
After reading the very sketchy start up manual as well as trying various combinations of steps posted here, I am still having trouble setting this thing up. Simply plugging in the AX and using Airport Set Up Assistant, I was able to create a WDS and add the AX as a remote station by entering its MAC address (it was not recognized automatically). However, when pushing "update" a message came up saying the AX needed to be set up manually.
So, I realized maybe I needed to plug the ethernet cable directly into the AX and use the Aiport Assistant. I tried that once and nothing happened. Yellow light flashing. I tried it again adjusting a setting for "Join an existing network" and named the network the same as our already established network. The light turned green! So, not knowing what to do next (Hello, Apple! Please write better instructions) I crossed my fingers and unplugged the Ethernet cable and put it back in the existing Base Station. Did that. Still green! Then I had to move the AX from the office out into the hallway toward the living room. Cross fingers, unplugged AX and ran it down hallway. Plugged it in, wait for Yellow light, hey it turned green! I took the MacBook to the living room, turned it on, 4 bars, cool! Started Safari and.... nothing. No web page loaded. No email. Nada. Great looking bars, though.
So, frustrated, I unplugged the AX and just left it a day. Last night, I moved it back to the office and tried to see if I had a setting wrong. Create new network? Join existing network? Same or different channel as Base Station? Use password security on AX? on just the Base Station? both? Why doesn't the manual mention these things? I even tried soft reset and hard reset. I could never get the green light to come on again.
Does anytone know where I find simple step-by-step instructions to help me? I thought Apple was supposed to be "easy". Am I missing something? My G4 desktop does not have an Aiport card, so I can't configure both Stations without having the Ethernet cable plugged directly into either gadget.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
MacBook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.8) Airport Extreme, Airport Express, PowerBook, G4 Desktop

Yeah, Duane posted the link to the good directions. The directions given in the printed manual for the base station and the online help for the base station is inadequate when it comes to WDS set up.
I have an Airport Extreme and two Airport Express. When I was setting up WDS, it did take a while because certain errors did keep coming up. But eventually it worked. I now get the hang of it.
One difference that kept me really confused but now I understand is the difference between relay and remote base station.
Picture these two diagrams
A) Airport Extreme <--> Express1 <--> Express2
B) Airport Extreme <--> Express2
The <--> signs mean wireless connection.
In picture (A), the Extreme is broadcasting to Express1 which then relays the signal to Express2. In this case, Express1 is a relay base station and Express2 is a remote base station.
In picture (B), the Extreme is broadcasting to Express2. In this case, the Express2 is also a remote base station and not a relay. There is not relay base station in (B).
I don't know why that kept me so confused but once I got it, I got it. Hope this helps for your WDS set up.

How can I best make use of all my devices ? Mac mini, Apple TV, AirPort Extreme, airport express, ipad 2 (all purchased in 2011) and an old imac with OS X. I use my iPhones personal hotspot for all Internet.

How can I best make use of all my devices ? Mac mini, Apple TV, AirPort Extreme, airport express, ipad 2 (all purchased in 2011) and an old imac with OS X. I use my iPhones personal hotspot for all Internet.

Maybe you are looking to re-purpose this equipment versus getting rid of it if so, the best thing to do is search the internet for tutorials. And I say this because it's what I would do, there are a lot of tutorials online. Hope you can find good use for them. Worse case scenario if you can't find something right now, package them very nicely and when you come across something unbox and enjoy. I've re-purposed a mac color classic and LOVE IT!!

Setting up an extended network from extreme with express

Hi,
Let me just explain what I am trying to do and I would love any help or suggestions.
I have the modem going into the airport extreme. The extreme is about 30 feet away, hard wired and hanging upside down in my hallway (should it be on the wall or upside down on ceiling?) From the airport extreme I have a cable going to a 8 port hub which I have my PS3, XBOX 360, Roku, Apple TV, 3D DVD and two 3D Tv's hooked up so there all hardwired. Another cable is coming from the airport extreme and I want to take that further into the house down the hallway and wire that into an aiport express which would then boost my signal. Is my thought process wrong there? I know I can do all that with my airport extreme, and then putting my airport express within range of the extreme I can wirelessly extend the network but I was thinkning I could have a wifi network from the extreme and then have the airport express hardwired to boost the network instead of it boosting it wirlessly. If I am not making sense let me know. I had the airport express extending the network wirelessly but it was not helping at all. Both are brand new, the extreme and the express. The wireless clients are all new also, new macbook, macbook pro, 2009 iMac, 3 iPhone 4's and 2 iPad 2's so I am pretty sure there all wireless N devices so it should not slow down my network right? I have no techincal background, just learning this from reading forums etc so I am trying to give all information that I can think of thats useful. Please ask any question and I will answer, I just hope I can figure something out. I live in a 1400 square foot apartment so it surprises me that the extreme (new dual band etc) doesnt give me internet everywhere let alone with also having an airport express extending the network. In the back two bedrooms and bathroom which are down the hallway and about 25 feet from the extreme have signal that is so bad that sometimes I cant even read simple RSS feeds let alone download app updates etc on my devices. I have setup the airport extreme to have both 2.4ghz and 5ghz networks and I see them both on all devices except for my iPhone. I have changed the channels for both frequencies by using Tumblr I believe it was and seeing what channels all the networks around me are. My present internet speeds aer 18mbs down and 2 mb up when I am sitting next to the aiport extreme and in direct line of sight. This also holds true on my iMac and laptops in the same room. The laptops in the backrooms get internet and I can do more with them than my iOS devices but even on there I have a hard time streaming etc. I am trying to get internet back there for my sons room, I have a wifi camera that I want to setup in there and so he can use an iPad there (he is 20 months which is why I want the camera) and for my room I have another Roku and Apple TV that barely get signal and are constantly buffering.
I am about to wall mount the exstreme with an airmount and am looking to permanently set everything up so please any suggestions, or hints, or things I need to be aware of please do tell. I would hate to mount everything and run the cables etc and miss something obvious. I appreciate your guys help and thanks for taking the time to read this.
basically
modem = airport extreme, that = (8 port hub)+(wired to aiport express) the express would then put out a wifi network to go along with the aiport extreme.

The extreme is about 30 feet away, hard wired and hanging upside down in my hallway (should it be on the wall or upside down on ceiling?
The ceiling will normally provide the best coverage in a typical room. The whole idea here is to limit obstructions between the AirPort Extreme and devices receving the wireless signal. Wall mounting can work well, again with the idea being to provide a clear signal path to devices.
Another cable is coming from the airport extreme and I want to take that further into the house down the hallway and wire that into an aiport express which would then boost my signal.
This type of configuration will provide the best bandwidth for the wireless network, and also allow you to locate the AirPort Express where it work most effectively. You want to configure what is known as a "roaming" network. The AiirPort Express will be configured using the same wireless network name, security setting and password as the AirPort Extreme. It is mandatory that the AirPort Express be configured in Bridge Mode when you do this.
Apple's instructions for this are in this link:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4260

I have an airport extreme and express, if I use the extreme as a base station connected to my old router can I use the express to extend the signal while also creating a new network that only I can use?

I have an airport extreme and express, if I use the extreme as a base station connected to my old router can I use the express to extend the signal while also creating a new network that only I can use? Essentially having two wifi connection off the same network? If so how do I set this up?

Extending using a wireless connection always results in a performance compromise.
If the Express is going to extend using a wireless connection, then the Express will need to be located about half way between the AirPort Extreme and the general area where you need more wireless coverage. The more that you have line-of-sight between the Extreme and Express, the better the network will operate.
Remember......the Express can only "extend" the quality and signal speed that it receives, so it needs to be located where it can get a very good signal from the Extreme. Although Apple cleverly uses the term "extend", a more accurate term for the Express would be "repeater".
If the Express will extend by connecting to the Extreme using a permanent, wired Ethernet cable connection......highly recommended for best performance.....then the Express can be located exactly where you need more wireless coverage. There is no signal loss at all through the Ethernet cable, so the Express gets a full speed signal no matter where it might be located.
Post back to let us know which way to you want to go.

Is Airport Express the best way to extend Time Capsule wifi network?

I have a Time Capsule which I use for wifi as well as backups. I would like to extend its wifi range. Is an Airport Express the best way to do this? Or would an Airport Extreme get better range? Thanks.

Welcome to the discussions!
You did not mention whether you are trying to extend using wireless only, but we'l assume that this is the case.
The AirPort Express and the AirPort Extreme have the same range, so there would be no difference in performance between the two devices.
If you have a newer dual band Time Capsule, a dual band AirPort Extreme would extend both bands...IF....the AirPort Extreme is positioned where it can receive a strong signal from the Time Capsule. The AirPort Extreme would also provide you with 3 ethernet ports if you needed to connect any ethernet devices.
The AirPort Express will extend one band, as it is a single band device, but that may be all you need. Since the AirPort Express can plug directly into an AC outlet, it is usually somewhat easier to place the device where it will be needed.
A good location for an extending device is a point that is about 1/2 to 2/3 the distance from the Time Capsule to the area that will need more wireless coverage, assuming there no major obstructions in the signal path. The idea situation would have the extending device placed where it has close to a line-of-sight relationship with the main router.
Post back if you need configuration details on the extending device, or if you need more information.

802.11n AirPort Extreme and Express

Hello,
Thank you in advance for all your help and replies, I truly appreciate it.
I'm looking to purchase an 802.11n Airport Extreme and AirPort Express. I want to setup the Extreme next to my DSL modem and setup the Express in another room and have it extend the wireless network. The Express will also serve as an ethernet port from my DVR unit. I have read different posts that indicated that if I setup the Express to wirelessly connect to the Extreme, via WDS, or some other method, the wireless network will be downgraded to 802.11g. I currently have a 802.11g wireless network. I have one Buffalo Technology 802.11g wireless router and one Buffalo Technology 802.11g router (setup as an access point) and can do everything I need except connect a external HD via USB.
If at all possible, I would like the entire network (Extreme and Express) to use the same SSID and password. Have the Extreme perform the MAC filtering, provide DHCP address, and service a guest network.
So, do I understand what I have read correctly, that connecting an 802.11n Extreme and 802.11n Express via wireless (WDS, or other method) will downgrade the network to 802.11g? Are there any other recommendations on how I should connect these two devices and provide 802.11n service?
Again, thank you in advance.
--GMReed

When using the "extend" feature with the new 802.11n base stations, the extended wireless network operates in the 802.11n mode. I believe you may be referring to one of two things that may have led you to that conclusion: 1) When extending a network with the older static version of a WDS, the extended network operates in the 802.11g mode. This is true when either or both base stations are 802.11g models, and 2) Non-"n" wireless clients, connected to a "n" network, will bring the network down to the lowest bandwidth level of the oldest standard. Although connecting these types of clients does affect the overall bandwidth available to "n" clients, it does NOT bring the overall wireless network down to "g" or "b" level.
>If at all possible, I would like the entire network (Extreme and Express) to use the same SSID and password.
By default, both base stations must uses the same Network Name or SSID and wireless password to work properly.
>Have the Extreme perform the MAC filtering, provide DHCP address, and service a guest network.
For MAC filtering in an extended network, both base stations must be configured with the same MAC addresses for all clients that you want access to the extended network. The Extreme would provide DHCP service, but (unfortunately) you cannot extend the guest network.

Setup a wired network between Time Capsule, Airport Extreme and Express

I currently have a Time Capsule, Airport Extreme N and an Airport Express N. They are currently connected wirelessly via the "extend network" mode. So I do have wireless connection throughout my home but I notice that it is slow especially compared to gigabit Ethernet. I now like to do the same but then connect the three devices over Ethernet as I have on each floor also Ethernet connections available that are connected via a wired switch.
How can I configure the three devices in such a way that they use the gigabit Ethernet wired connections as their "backbone" and then give wireless access to each floor as if it is one wireless network, and where I can connect other wired gigabit devices via the time capsule and airport extreme Ethernet ports?
I have one Internet connection that comes via Ethernet from my cable modem. This is now connected to my time capsule who creates the internal network and assigns internal IP addresses.
Can anybody advise how to configure each device? And to which ethernet port I should Airport Extreme?
Thanks
Alexander

Welcome to the discussion area, Alexander!
+How can I configure the three devices in such a way that they use the gigabit Ethernet wired connections as their "backbone" and then give wireless access to each floor as if it is one wireless network, and where I can connect other wired gigabit devices via the time capsule and airport extreme Ethernet ports?+
You will be setting up what is known as a "roaming" network using the etherent backbone for your network. This will produce the best possible bandwidth on your network for both ethernet and wireless connections.
_On the Time Capsule_
Open AirPort Utility - Click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab below the row of icons
Remove the check mark next to "Allow this network to be extended" (This is only checked if you are extending your network using wireless only and you will be using ethernet to connect your devices, not wireless).
Update to save changes and the Time Capsule configuration is complete.
_On the AirPort Extreme_
Connect an ethernet cable from one of the LAN <-> ports on the Time Capsule to your ethernet switch. Then connect another ethernet connection from the switch to the WAN (circle icon) port on the AirPort Extreme.
Open AirPort Utility - Click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab below the row of icons
Wireless Mode = Create a wireless network (Not extend as you might think. Extend is only used if the Time Capsule and AirPort Express are connecting using wireless only)
Wireless Network Name = Exact same name as your AirPort Extreme wireless network
Radio Mode = Same setting as your AirPort Extreme
Channel = Automatic
Wireless Security = Exact same setting as your AirPort Extreme wireless network
Wireless Password = Same password as your AirPort Extreme wireless
Confirm Password
Click the Internet icon
Connect Using = Ethernet
Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode)
Update to save changes and configuration is complete
_On the AirPort Express_
You can connect an ethernet cable from the switch..or..from one of the LAN <-> ports on either the Time Capsule or AirPort Extreme, whichever is easier.
Set it up exactly the same as the AirPort Extreme above and update to save changes.
Power off the Time Capsule, AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express for a few moments. Then power up the Time Capsule first and let it run a moment, then power up the AirPort Extreme and then the AirPort Express.
If you have a laptop running Leopard or Snow Leopard, you can move your computer around and check to see which device it is connecting to for wireless. Hold down the option key while you click on the fan shaped AirPort icon at the top of the screen and look for the BSSID. That is the AirPort ID of the device to which you are connected at the time.
To get the AirPort ID of each of your Apple routers, open AirPort Utility and click on a device on the left. On the right, you'll see the AirPort ID for that device.
For ethernet connections, you can plug into an available port on the switch, the Time Capsule, or the AirPort Extreme.
You should be all set. Please post back on your progress.

Coming over from the dark side.....many questions...Extreme and Express

My 1st apple product was the iPhone so now I believe!
Recently, I purchased an Airport Extreme 802.11n from eBay.
Question #1: Are there two versions of the Airport Extreme 802.11n? How do I know if I have the dual-band version? From the Airport Utility, I can choose the 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz band but not both. I can see that there is a "b/g" compatible mode but what does it mean if I choose the b/g compatible mode? It seems that I have the older 802.11n Airport Extreme model?
I also purchased a used Airport Express b/g model. I thought it was the "n" model because it looks like the "n" model (all white). I have a bad feeling that this does not have the WDS feature. If this is the case, does that mean I can't use this Airport Express to extend the Airport Extreme Base Station?
Can I use bridge mode wireless to extend the wireless signal in my home although I will have two wireless ID's in the home? Basically, with the Extreme and Express that I have now, can I set it up to extend wireless coverage in my home?
My Extreme is currently on 7.3.1 because 7.4.1 is not stable. My Windows pc's disconnects all the time.
My Express is on 6.3.

Hello westladog. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
Are there two versions of the Airport Extreme 802.11n?
There are actually three "versions." Here they are in "oldest" to "newest" order:
o Non-Gigabit Ethernet (Part No. MA073LL/A)
o Gigabit Ethernet (Part No. MB053LL/A)
o Dual-Band (Part No. MB763LL/A)
Based on your description, you have either the non-Gigabit or Gigabit version.
I can see that there is a "b/g" compatible mode but what does it mean if I choose the b/g compatible mode?
That would mean that your AirPort will support both 802.11n and 802.11b/g wireless clients simultaneously.
I also purchased a used Airport Express b/g model. I thought it was the "n" model because it looks like the "n" model (all white). I have a bad feeling that this does not have the WDS feature.
Both the newer 802.11n or older 802.11b/g versions of the AirPort Express Base Station (AX) support WDS ... so either could be used to extend the wireless range of your 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn).
Can I use bridge mode wireless to extend the wireless signal in my home although I will have two wireless ID's in the home?
With a WDS, you will only have one "wireless ID." The AirPorts use the term "Network Name." It is also known as a SSID.
Basically, with the Extreme and Express that I have now, can I set it up to extend wireless coverage in my home?
Yes.

Extensions like Ghostery, WOT or AdBlock stop working after two or three times. Restarting the webpage in a new tab the extensions will work again for several times and then stop again. Has anybody an explanation or a workaround for this bug in Safari 5?

Extensions like Ghostery, WOT or AdBlock stop working after two or three times. Restarting the webpage in a new tab the extensions will work again for several times and then stop again. Has anybody an explanation or a workaround for this bug in Safari 5?

Remove the extensions, redownload Safari, reload the extensions.
http://www.apple.com/safari/download/
And if you really want a better experience, use Firefox, tons more choices and possibilities there.
Firefox's "NoScript" will block the Trojan going around on websites. Best web security you can get.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/
Ghostery, Ad Block Plus and thousands of add-ons more have originated on Firefox.

Chaining two Extremes--which order? (part 2)

Just reconfigured my home network after buying Cisco RVS4000 router and adding a second simultaneous dual-band AEBS. I followed Tesserax's advice in the previous thread (Chaining two Extremes--which order?) recently.
The two db extremes are bridged and both use the same network name, passwords, and security levels.
One odd behavior I can't figure out:
When I eliminated the non-simultaneous db extreme from the chain and was resetting the existing sDB, it took on the profile of the extreme I eliminated from the chain. I have hard reset it several times, both manually and through the airport utility interface. Even though it says it resets, in the summary tab, it continues to indicate it is a (fast ethernet) model and not the (simultaneous dual-band) model. And the radio settings seem to mirror those of the older model.
So, to summarize, hardware wise, I have two new simultaneous dual band extremes but airport utility indicates I only have one. The network appears to be working fine, but I'm wondering whether I'm getting the full functionality of the hardware.
I don't know how to fix this.

Couple of additional questions. Under your suggestion, what should the settings be under "wireless mode?" Assuming it would be:
802.11n (non-dual)= "create a wireless network"
802.11n (dual)= "extend a wireless network"
Actually, you will want the following settings:
o 802.11n (non-dual) = Create a wireless network
o 802.11n (dual) = Create a wireless network
The only reason to choose "Extend a wireless network" would be if the two routers were NOT connected by wire.
Also, what about the checkboxes asking "Allow this network to be extended?" for each base station. Should they be checked or unchecked?
You will want both "unchecked." Again, this would be because the routers are connected by Ethernet and this option is the "other half" of the "Allow this network to be extended"/"Extend a wireless network" pair to define a dynamic WDS. Neither are required (or desired) when the routers are connected by wire.
The reason I was using WDS even though it was against my instinct is this paragraph from "Take Control" book by Glenn Fleishman ...
Glenn provides an excellent reference in the Take Control series. I believe what Glenn is referring to here is in a situation where you had two AirPort connected by wire (like you do) and want to extend the wireless range even further. Using his instruction for your case would be if you wanted to add a third AirPort ... say an AirPort Express. You could then configure the 802.11n (dual) and Express into a dynamic WDS.
Actually, in this case, it would be advantageous to switch the Extremes so that the dual would be connected to the modem and the WDS would be configured between the non-dual and Express.

Can I boost the DSL signal using my 1st Generation Airport Extreme or Express? Also, can I get wireless printing?

Can I boost the DSL signal using my 1st Generation Airport Extreme or Express?
I just moved into a house where they have ATT DSL and it is really slow in my room. I am hoping that I don't have to purchase a booster and I might be able to use my Airport Extreme or Express to boost it. I don't think they want my Extreme as their router, though. They are PC.
I am also hoping that I can set up a wireless printing situation in my room using the Express or Extreme.
I am running 10.4.11 on my old MacBook Pro laptop, 10.5.something on my old desktop (MacMini).
Thanks for any help ahead of time,
Carole

Can I boost the DSL signal using my 1st Generation Airport Extreme or Express?
I just moved into a house where they have ATT DSL and it is really slow in my room. I am hoping that I don't have to purchase a booster and I might be able to use my Airport Extreme or Express to boost it.
Unfortunately, this won't work especially if you want the connection between the routers to be wireless. The two are just not compatible for configuring an extended network. However, it could work if you can have them interconnected by wire. In that case, you could configure them into a roaming network.
I don't think they want my Extreme as their router, though. They are PC.
This shouldn't be an issue as the AirPorts support wireless clients regardless of which operating system they are running.

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