Two Page/Bleed Spread? InDesign Newbie question

Hello,
I am hoping you can lead me in the right direction, I have a quick (probably basic) question that I can't figure out! I am new to InDesign and am trying to figure out the best way possible to have one image go across the span of two pages, with a .5in border around it. I already have the border and everything all set, but I am having issues getting my image to "stretch" properly and stay in proportion so there is no distortion. I know how to do fit to frame, but the problem is that the frame that I am creating spans both pages and therefore it does not keep proportions correct. If I do fit to frame proportionally it will just put the image on one page instead of two.
Also, I am curious what the best way is to do this so that I can account for gutter space and do not loose part of my image in the fold of the book. Can you help? Thanks so much in advance!!
Phil Spiegel

Use fill frame proportionally in the fitting options.
If it's a photo, make sure you have a enough image date. Check the
effective resolution in the info panel.
Bob

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