Unplanned delivery costs
Our main vendor is a ERS vendor and freight vendor is without ERS.
We have some freight related condition types in PO and maintained freight vendor in the same.
We are running ERS for main vendor and arranging payment to freight vendor with MIRO.
As far as there is no change in planned delivery cost it is working fine.
But if there is any change in delivery costs, we want to post the unplanned delivery cost to material through MIRO, when we do i.v. for freight vendor first time.
if we select the option "2", i.e. post the unplanned delivery cost to the GL a/c assigned in OBYC, it is working fine. But with the first option i.e. distribute the unplanned delivery costs to line items, it is giving error that "Balance in transaction currency"
We are selecting "Planned delivery cost" option in MIRO.
If main vendor is not a ERS vendor and if we do MIRO with "Goods + Planned delivery costs", the unplanned delivery cost is being posted to material cost, with the same configuration.
For avoiding balance in transaction currency error in our scenario, what is the solution? Do we need to configure anything more?
Thanks in advance
Hi
To post the unplanned delivery costs to the Item you have to define how it should be apportioned to the invoiced items.( under Logistics Invoice Verification )
You can post these types of unplanned delivery costs only after the invoice is posted.
unplanned delivery costs are distributed among the invoiced items in proportion to the total invoiced values in the current invoice
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Question on unplanned delivery costs need to go to GL account ????
Hello
I have a question regarding unplanned deliver costs. I am a FI analyst Can you please explain my how I can solve my problem . My user wants unplanned delivery costs to go in to the GL account .
In MM account determination GL account is set up but when I am doing MIRO
. I am putting total amount in amount field and freight costs in unplanned field under detail section.
When I simulate it gives me tax code related warning when I hit enter it credit vendor and debits GR/IR clearing and some debit to inventory account but not to freight account,
Whats the problem. Can someone explain me :
1) What do I need to do to make it go to GL account ( account is set up but what is tax code related error . how do I fix that,
2) How does unplanned delivery costs work if I have tax, discount and freight.
3) Is tax calculated off total amount (inventory + freight) and discount too. How can I prevent that so that my tax is calculated just on inventory amount?
4) DO I have to put total in amount field (meaning inventory amount + fright ) or not .
I will be grateful if someone can guide me towards right direction. Please give me a detailed answer. How does it work???
Thanks
Kavita Reddyin standard setting the freight amount gets debit in the stock or inventoy account and gets credit in the fright accoutn at the time fo gr so it means the amount of frieght is gettting invenotrised
now at the time of IV IN MIRO SYSTEM CREDITS THE VENDOR ACCOUNT AND DEBITS THE GR/IR account
if u want to settele the planned delivery cost then select the laout variant for the planned delivery at item level
or in case if u want to make use of the unplanned delivery cost then u r doing the right step
but as u simulate the g/l accounts sytem will debit the inventory or stock account for it rather then frieght account (i belive so )
as the uplanned delivery cost may be getting inventorised that is added to the material price
and as u said u dont want to have tax calulated on the unplanned delivery cost then i suggest u to post it as subsequent debit and there do not make use of the claulate tax option or do the direct posting for the g/l account option -
Distribution of unplanned delivery costs during delivery cost LIV
Hi all,
This clarification is regarding delivery cost LIV - where difference between:
- the amount invoiced by the freight vendor
and
- the amount accrued based on PO
is treated as unplanned delivery cost and is intended to be distributed amongst the line items of the accrued planned delivery cost.
Customizing for the company code - Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted - is set as "Distribute among invoice items".
When we try to post an LIV in regard to the aforesaid scenario [Tax code is with 0% tax], the system returns the following error message:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Balance is not equal to zero: 58.42 EUR
Message no. M8186
Diagnosis
You cannot post the document as the balance is 58.42 EUR.
Procedure
Check the gross invoice amount, the tax amount, the amounts in the items
selected and any unplanned delivery costs in the document header. The
items selected on the item list may not be the same as those in the
invoice.
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Also, went through the OSS note 129066 which mentions that Unplanned delivery costs cannot be distributed to the planned delivery costs as of SAP release 4.6C.
Our system is SAP 4.7 and hence we are unable to understand the reason for this error..
Is there any enhancement relevant in this regard?
Can anyone please throw some light on this.
Best Regards,
BhargavThank you for contacting SAP Global Support Center.
It seems you're posting the planned and unplanned delivery cost
simultaneously.
The planned delivery cost and unplanned delivery cost cannot be invoicedtogether when only freight cost is being invoiced.
Unplanned delivery cost and planned delivery cost can be invoiced
together only when you invoice both goods and freight cost.
This is the standard design of the system. Even in customizing for
unplanned delivery cost, the system behavior is designed such a way thatit can be invoiced along with goods only. Both options which we have
given behave similarly except for the posting to account.
Therefore, your system behavior is as per standard design and there
is no error in your system. For this functionality there are no other
workarounds too.
Additionally, Please consider if the workaround below is working.
In order to post unplanned delivery costs with planned delivery costs
the customizing has to be set so that the unplanned delivery costs are
posted to a seperate G/L account rather than distributed amongs line
items.
SPRO
>>Materials Management
>>Logistics Invoice Verification
>>Incoming Invoice
>>Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted
"2" Different G/L line
May I ask you to review note 129066. The the validity is from 4.0 to
4.6 C but it is valid for your release also. -
Unplanned delivery cost for different Vendor
Hi,
For a import PO we need to pay OCTOI to Municipal corporation.
Unfortunately while PO creation the octroi condition was not entered.
Now we need to post a invoice for this and the condition is, we must post this to material.
We dont want to do direct FI entry as then this will not load on material.
Entring Unplanned delivery cost at the time of invoice will not be possible is the Vendor is different.
Any suggestions please...
RajeshDear Rajesh,
unplanned delivery cost is basically which not plan at the time of PO and it will be expected at the time of invoice.
you can enter extra amount in unplanned delivery cost, but check at the time of Stimulate which a/c is being captured.
The Unplanned Delivery cost is default in separate GL or in Stock Account depends upon the configuration.
check In SPRO ,Maintain settings as shown
MM---> Logistic Invoice Verification -->Incoming Invoice --> Configure How unplanned delivery costs are posted
Please check the below link for more information
http://www.sap-img.com/financial/unplanned-and-plan-delivery-costs-in-stock-and-gl-account.htm
Unplanned delivery costs in MIRO
Regards,
PK. -
Unplanned Delivery costs in MIRO for different Vendor
I have an annual PO and I invoice it with normal MIRO transaction.
At the same time I have one service which I want to be a unplanned delivery cost for this PO. This service will be assigned to the material account and it is for a different vendor.
Can I do it in MIRO creating only the value in the unplanned delivery cost and insert a different vendor? In OBYC this is assigned to UPF category.
Can you please help me?Hello,
You can use transaction MIRO to do unplanned delivery costs.
You use "Subsequent Debit" and insert the PO number (equal to invoice). The system will show the lines of the PO that were already invoiced and in the tab "Details" you should change the Invoice Party and inser the value of the unplanned delivery costs in the field "Unpl. Del. Csts".
If you don't have the costs in the PO for different vendor you must create like this...with Subsequent Debit. Only if you have planned costs in the PO it is possible to do it invoice and costs in the same document for different vendors otherwise you must have 2 documents (invoice for the material vendor and subsequent debit for the other unplanned costs vendor). -
Unplanned Delivery Costs in Invoice Verification
Hiii All ,
I am getting an error " Balance in Transaction Currency " when i give the Unplanned delivery costs. The configuration that i made is Unplanned delivery costs should be added to the Invoice Items. This comes when i am posting the Planned delivery costs i.e freight Conditions. Please suggest me if any configuration is missing.
Regards,
KumarHi,
You appear to be adding Planned AND unplanned delivery charges somehow????
If you have entered freight conditions on the PO and if that freight cost is being captured during GR (as you indicate by the value of 110 at GR stage) then why are you entering unplanned delivery costs as well?
You should be simply selecting the option "goods/service items + Planned delivery costs" from the pull down list in the centre -right of the MIRO screen (if the delivery costs are included on the same invoice and vendor). the total value for the invoice amount should be entered as 110, (If you are ONLY entering the planned delivery costs then select this option and ONLY enter 10 as the invoice amount) but there is no reason to enter ANYTHING in the unplanned delivery costs field because these are PLANNED delivery costs.
Or are you saying that there are unplanned costs on top of the planned costs? In which case the invoice amount should be 10 PLUS the unplanned costs.
Steve B -
Unplanned delivery costs in MIRO
Hi,
In what scenario we use "Unplanned delivery costs" in MIRO.
We created the Purchase Order and did the goods receipts. At the time of Vendor Invoicing, we came to know that we forgot to enter freight value in the Purchase Order. We don't want to reverse the goods receipt, and we want to rectify the error in the MIRO. What is the best way to do this.
I have explored the various possibility in MIRO like,
a. putting freight amount in Unplanned delivery costs of Details tab.
b. putting the freight amount directly in the G/L (below in the G/L Account tab).
I just want to know "should we stop the users to do the mistakes in future (our user is saying - the SAP has given the option, hence we must use this). Our user is saying that he is not aware of the freight amount at the time of PO creation, hence he will not enter the freight value in the Purchase Order and will use the Unplanned delivery costs for entering the freight always.
Regards,
PK>
PK wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In what scenario we use "Unplanned delivery costs" in MIRO.
>
> We created the Purchase Order and did the goods receipts.
At the time of Vendor Invoicing, we came to know that
we forgot to enter freight value in the Purchase Order.
We don't want to reverse the goods receipt, and
we want to rectify the error in the MIRO. What is the best way to do this.
> I have explored the various possibility in MIRO like,
>
> a. putting freight amount in Unplanned delivery costs of Details tab.
> b. putting the freight amount directly in the G/L (below in the G/L Account tab).
>
> I just want to know "should we stop the users to do the
mistakes in future (our user is saying - the SAP has given the option,
hence we must use this). *Our user is saying that he is
not aware of the freight amount at the time of PO creation,
hence he will not enter the freight value in the
Purchase Order and will use the Unplanned
delivery costs for entering the freight always*.
>
> Regards,
> PK
If freight amount is only know at the billing then enter freight amount in unplanned delivery cost field.
In SPRO ,Maintain settings as shown
MM---> Logistic Invoice Verification -->Incoming Invoice --> Configure How unplanned delivery costs are posted --->
For required Company Code = '2'.
Create new g/l account in Chart of accounts(FS00) -
User-Exit to limit the unplanned delivery costs in a PO
Hi All,
My Requirement is that I need to Limit the Unplanned Delivery Costs in a Purchase Order.I find there exists no ways to arrive at this through Customizations.Could anybody please guide me If this can be Fulfilled through a User Exit.If yes,could you please tell me the Exit.
Thanks a ton,
MariaHi,
You can explore EXIT_SAPLMR1M_001.
Hope it works for you.
Cheers ! -
Control Unplanned Delivery Cost in miro
Dear All,
I want to limit the Unplanned Delivery cost by some %, say my Total invoice amt is Rs 1000 & i need to set 10% as the limit for Unplanned del cost field. so max i can enter upto Rs 100 here. How can i achieve this ?
regds,
CBHi,
Guess there is no tolerance limit which can be set on Unplanned Delivery Cost.
This feature itself is there to map any Unplanned cost in MIRO, hence there is no logic in having a tolerance for it.
Hope this answers. -
Dear All,
This is regarding Unplanned delivery Cost:
I make an PO of a Material of 15000 Qty in which PO Value is calculated excluding Freight charges .
But while doing GRN I comes to Know the Freight charges. Let us say 500 Rs but this is for 10000 Quantity (Here the vendor is different (Transporter)).whereas 5000 Qty will come later on.
So i have configured that during GRN Vendor can be changed. or for this USer will Go into Change PO mode and will put the freight charges as 500
But this freight charges is distributed on 15000 quantity whereas actually i want that this freight charges can be uploaded on 10000 Quantity.
How it can be handled ?
Whereas when next time when i receive remaining (5000 Quantity) at that time freight is 200 Rs (For eg)
How it will be uploaded on 5000 quantity.
Can it be possible that i ask the user to put 1 Rs as nominal value in FRB1 for (transporter as Vendor)
And after doing MIGO out of this 1 Rs proportanately distribute this value on 10000 qty (lets say 0.75 Rs )
And while doing MIRO I select the PO no and Planned deliver cost where in it will show quantity as
10000 and freight value as 0.75 (Here i will put the actual Freight) But in this case if i put the actual freight it gets uploaded on Freight G/L.
Is it possible that the freight gets uploaded on Items which i am purchasing?
If i dont put the actual value instead of 0.75 and instead of that can i put this value in Unplanned delivery cost. But i think if i put the Unplanned delivery cost as 500 Rs ,system is showing me only the Credit amount of Rs 500 on Vendor and on freight acct as 0.75
i.e Transporter is getting credited by 500 Rs
and only Freight acct is getting debited by 0.75
balance 499.25 Rs it is not showing at all.
CAN U PLZ GUIDE ME ON THIS ????
REgards
ShaileshHi,
Why dont u put the charges directly in MIRO rather than modifying the PO. This way u can distribute ur charges as per quantity
Thanks,
Sourabh -
Post unplanned delivery cost to different freight G/L Accounts
Hi,
Regarding the freight costs the business process is at the time Purchase Order creation, the company does not know what is the freight costs that is going to be charged by the vendor. The freight charges will be known when the vendor sends the Invoice. The purchase order contains the materials to be drop shipped by vendor directly to customer or cross dock delivery to company premises.
The business requirement is when the MIRO invoice is posted, user will enter the freight charges at the document header level and that value needs to be split among the PO Line items and needs to be posted to separate Freight Cost G/L Accounts based on the account assignment category. For drop ship items the freight cost to be posted to one G/L Account and for cross dock items it needs to be posted to a different G/L Account. Later on this freight cost to be applied to customer invoice for charging the customer with the vendor freight cost.
The solution option we have considered is to define two statistical freight condition types at PO Level (one to be triggered for Drop ship materials and the other to be for Cross dock items), in the pricing procedure assign two different Account keys to these condition types. At MIRO users enters the freight cost as unplanned delivery cost, write the code in a user exit to split this value among the freight line items of the MIRO invoice. As separate Account keys are assigned to the condition types the values can be posted to separate G/Ls. To bring these values to customer invoice we will develop a custom routine in SD pricing procedure.
Request the experts to let me know if there is any simple way to map this requirement.
Thanks & Regards,
GLN.Hi,
As at the time of the PO you do not know the freight costs and you want to post the freight costs in the MIRO as unplanned delivery costs . and there is no way you have to post as unplanned .
Here your requirements are 1. Post to separate GL accounts and 2. distribution among line items .
However both of your requirements are given with sap standard functionality with the below sap link .
Logistics Invoice Verification (MM-IV-LIV) - SAP Library
check spro--mm--liv--incoming invoice ---configure how unplanned delivery costs are treated .
at the same time when you maintain the condition type for frieght iN PO , they will become the planned delivery costs . if this come in to picture FR/IR account will come into the pictute at GR and IR .
i think your requirement will be partially met . and the coding part may become fuzzy rather to go with the standard.
Regards, -
MIRO- Unplanned Delivery Costs info. not showing on FS10N line items
HI,
Can anyone explain why when posting an Invoice with unplanned delivery costs using T-code MIRO, the purchase order info. does not show in the GL line item display T-code FS10N for any of the unplanned delivery cost line items. If anyone have a solution to allow the purchase order info. to show on the uplanned delivery costs line item that would be great.
Thanks.
Rickey.Un-planned freight is entered on the header of the invoice and therefore relates to the entire invoice. Since, its possible to have mulitple PO's on one invoice it would only be possible to assign the PO when there is exactly one PO on the invoice.
Alternative, you can use planned freight or post the unplanned freight using the G/L tab in transaction MIRO. By using the G/L tab you can enter any information required for accounting (including multiple lines in case it is required to split the un-planned freight by several PO's. -
G/L Account for Unplanned Delivery cost.
Hi,
I have a requirement to distribute the Unplanned Delivery cost to different G/L accounts based on the material type of the item.
Is there any User exit or standard setting to solve this.
Thanks & regards,
MaruthuHi
Unplanned delivery costs can be trigerred by customizing the the account assignemnts in OBYC under UPD transaction key.
For trigerring different G/L accounts based on the Material type, use Enhancement LMR1M002- customer exit EXIT_SAPLKONT_011.
In that you need to determine the G/L account based on account category refernce & Event key UPF.
You need to take help of ABAPErs for the same
Award points if useful
Thanks & regards
Kishore -
Unplanned delivery cost & exchange rate differences in MIRO
Hi Gurus,
while posting MIRO, I am facing the following problems. If anybody gives me reply, it will be a great help.
1. Unplanned delivery cost:
Client requirement is, these unplanned delivery costs should be added on material only.
how we can map this? how system behaves when stock is there and not there? also tell me which G/Ls will trigger.
2. Exchange Rate:
I maintained exchange rate in OB08. while doing MIRO, how system posts exchange rate differences.
which G/Ls will trigger.
in case of conditions like customs duty, cess etc how system will behave? which G/Ls will trigger?
Thanks in advance
KKHi,
According to first question:
For unplanned cost You have configuration for plant code:
Configuration: SPRO->MM->LIV->Incoming invoice->Configured how unplanned delivery cost are posted
You have 2 options:
- Distribute among invoice items
- Different G/L line
You have another option, You can assigne this cost for item when You use fright cost condition in PO (FRA/FRB)
If the stock will be available, then system incrase valuation, If not will be deviation.
G/L account for unplanned cost is taking from PRD(for Distribute among invoice items) or UPF(for Different G/L line) transaction from OBYC tcode and for FRA/FRB condition is FR1.
Question 2:
Configuration: SPRO->MM->LIV->Incoming invoice->Configure How Exchange Rate Differences Are Treated
G/L account takes from KDR transaction from OBYC tcode.
Regards
Lukasz -
TAX not Calculating for Unplanned Delivery cost in MIRO
Dear All,
I am having an issue with Unplanned delivery cost in MIRO,
We have to do an accounting of a invoice/PO which contains in addition to actual Value the Unplanned Delivery cost also, and for which also the TAXes also applicable with ED 10% and ECess 2%,SHcess 1% ,
Now in MIRO if i want to enter these Packing and forwarding chanrges in Unplanned delivery cost, but the TAX rates is not calculating for the same.
The TAX rates are calculating only for the values other than Unplanned delivery cost.
What i want TAX also need to be calculate based on the TAX code choosen in MIRO or as flow that of PO.
I have checked in OMR2, there we have mentioned Default Unplanned delivery cost tax code as ED NIL.
Can any where in the setting we can say by default the TAX rates should calculate as that of PO or whatever TAX codes we have choosen in MIRO.
How to achive this, pl help.
Regards,
Nagaraj Shi
the screen shot i sent is also of 4.7E
now u can check OMR2 for default tax code for unplanned delivery cost
can u show us the screen shot of the details tab of MIRO
also check in SPR>MM>LIV>Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted
here what value u have maintained ,we are using 2 as (2 Different G/L line)
regards
kunal
Edited by: Kunal Ingale on May 19, 2010 6:18 AM
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