Update on BIOS & MEMORY problems? also DOT, PAT, settings...

Okie dokie, I'm new here, and I've been pouring through threads for the past 2-3 hours and doing searches, so please excuse these questions if they seem to have already been answered, but I would like to just ask a few (hopefully susinct) questions to get the quickest and most direct answers possible...
I just bought the 865pe-LS board, p-4 2.6ghz 800FSB HT CPU, and value-select Corsair PC3200 512MB dual-channel kit, and it has become apparent that there is or has been a HUGE problem with this board accepting corsiar memory.  ARGH   or should is say DOH for not checking into all of this BEFOREHAND!  
But it seems that several bios versions have come out since the majority of those threads I have been reading about back in august.  Sooo, can anyone tell me if the current version, 1.9 bios, has fixed these incompatibilities with the corsairs memory sticks?  I realize that most people are going the LL version routes for the memory, and I have opted for the value-select versions...but it still seems to be a possible dilemma.  I am wondering if it is worth it to try to pay the 15% restock fee or sell it on ebay (hopefully for about what I paid) and go get the same stuff in kingston memory instead, since these seem to be much more compatible?  Or has this problem been fixed with newer bios versions?
Another important factor to consider, I think, is that I may not be THAT interested in overclocking much of anything, but perhaps just wishing to use the fast or turbo modes, probably not ultra-turbo since i would need the XMS or hyper-X versions to even try this.  If the bios is now accepting corsair, I am trying to figure out, short of "experimenting" since i have not gotten all of my components in yet, if its even possible or recommended to overclock or use the fast/turbo mode with the cas-3 value select dual-channel setup I will be using...any clues?  
Lastly, which may have been already answered by now, is it best to use the PAT or DOT settings or opt for manual setting for any sort of higher-performance setup, considering my specs for my soon-to-be new computer?  Or does it really make THAT much difference?  Im not into squeezing out every nano-second of speed, but if a little tweaking would make a BIG difference and wouldnt require me spending MANY hours or days to do so, then I'm all for it.  I'm practically a noob at this stuff, only really educating myself in any depth about all this stuff tonight (going off of what outhers have recommended in making these purchases)...thanks for the understanding and the help in advance!  
*looking for any help*  
  is how i feel, haha...*sigh*

There doesn't seem to be any particular Ram type that is working for everybody. Also, many people that are experiencing problems are trying to overclock(some to extremes). You don't seem very interested in that aspect. For the Ram, you really just have to put it in and see what happens.
If you haven't already, read the FAQ HERE for the Neo/Neo2 boards. Particularly #5 which will help you setup the SATA/IDE devices in the Bios. Use Native mode for Windows XP.
Things I would set in the Bios right out of the box:
(Some of these might already be set by default)
Boot device select- Order that you want to boot from particular devices. Might have to set "On-chip IDE Config" items first and re-boot to see all your devices here.
HT-On
MPS revision-1.4
APIC ACPI....- Enabled
Dram Timing- By SPD
Integrated Peripherals is fairly intuitive except the "On-chip IDE config" see FAQ page.
DOT- disabled for now
MAT- slow to start
DRAM freq- 400
CPU Bus- 201(seems strange but do it; try a search here for "201" and you'll know why)
DDR voltage- 2.7v (like reilly said)
If this works OK(try something that stresses it) you can try raising the MAT to fast. After you're happy that this is stable, you can try turbo if you want but I'm not sure with the value Ram. Once you settle on this, try playing with the DOT features. I think General is the equivalent of a 10% increase on the system. Once you've found a setting you like here, you should leave it for a while and just enjoy your new compputer!
If you get bored, you can always go in and disable the DOT and manually raise FSB for more fun.
Things you should read up on before you do any overclocking:
Clearing CMOS
5:4 FSB/MEM ratio
Have fun!

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