Upgrade only Java stack to Ehp1  (SAPehpi)

Hi Gurus,
We are currently on PI 7.1,   and is considering to upgrade to Ehp1 (primarily for IDoc packaging feature)
and since the IDoc packaging feature is delivered thru a Sender IDoc adapter, which means this seats on the Adapter Engine already (Java stack)
I saw the document for SAPehpi (Upgrading to Ehp1 for a PI 7.1 system) and if i understand it correctly there are two options,
one  ABAP + JAVA upgrade    and the other is  JAVA only upgrade.
So does that mean I can upgrade my Adapter Engine (AAE) to Ehp1 using the JAVA only upgrade option?
My apologies in advance as i have no experience yet in upgrading 7.1 systems
Thanks

> So with that, if we stay on 7.1, then we don't have an option for IDoc packaging (IDoc package inbound to PI will be split into individual IDocs, then will have to use an integration process Collect to re-package it as 1) ?
Even when you apply EhP1, you can use IDoc packaging only, if your sender system is also on SAP BASIS 7.1 EhP1 or SAP BASIS 7.0 Ehp1.
So you should confirm this first.

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    Hi Friends,
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    Hi Sacha,
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    I have final question.
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    Regards,
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    hi friends
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    2 . do i need to  fallow the sequence to apply the stacks. like (sp 10,11.12,13) only java stack
    3. what is the processor to apply stacks .
    4 . can i  install the stacks when the system is down.
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    regards
    raja

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