Upgrading from 10.2 to 10.3 w/ history of logic board failure
Please forgive if this has already been asked but...
I have an IBook G3 that has had 2 logic board failures in the last 2 years. Is it worth upgrading to 10.3 (Panther) w/ my history? I cannot upgrade most applications ( Itunes, Safari, AOL...) b/c I'm not running 10.3. I don't have the money to upgrade but need access to these things.
thankx
You can just install 10.5, assuming the machine supports it. It needs to be fast (> 1Ghz) and have at least 2 GB RAM. Otherwise, you'll be spending a lot more time at your mother's.
Don't attempt an "upgrade" of 10.2. Back up the data, then reformat the drive, then install Leopard. Don't run any migration utility. Set everything up fresh. Reinstall updated versions of all software that will run on Leopard. The only thing you want to copy from the old machine are documents.
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Get files from old MBP to new MBP when the old one has suffered a Logic Board failure
Recently, my 2009 unibody MacBook Pro died. Logic board failure, I am told. It is out of warranty, and replacing the Logic Board would cost a grand. It had some other issues too, so I figured upgrading to a brand new system would be the best idea. So, I am going to purchase a brand new one within the next few days. My question is this: How to I get the files from my old MBP (I NEED them, plain and simple) to the new one once I get it? Should I take out the harddrive from the old one and connect it via a SATA>USB cable and connect it to the new one? Can anyone shed any light on this? It will be much appreciated. Thanks.
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Should I take out the harddrive from the old one and connect it via a SATA>USB cable and connect it to the new one?
Yep, all you need is a IDE/SATA to USB adapter for about $20 online at OtherWorld Computing, NewEgg and other online computer sites like Amazon etc.
You can find the screwdriver or other torx driver at iFixit or OtherWorld, just look for your Mac model or just be rough with it and drill out the screws.
You can choose to get a enclosue and use the drive as a external drive, it will cost more naturally, but for a few bucks more though you can get a brand new external drive and likely twice the capacity.
Some external drives can't be Carbon Copy Cloner and option booted from, so perhaps a adapter is best. (don't clone a OS from another Mac to your new Mac)
Setup:
When you set up the new Lion Mac, name the hard drive the same name as the external drive, also setup the same user name as the old Mac had. Software Update.
Install all your known third party programs from fresh sources as many as possible.
The last thing you do is connect the old Mac drive, transfer all the files from the user folders right back into their respective folders on the new drive (Music, Pictures, Documents etc) Not User/Library.
Open all your programs like iTunes and iPhoto and it will update for your files, then go through the folders and delete what you don't want.
Don't use migration or setup assitant, it's a blind copy, includes programs you can't use anymore and other headaches.
If you do things in the order I specify, your drive will be optimized and run fast for a decent amount of time.
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Early 2011 MacBook Pro logic board upgrade question
I have an early 2011 MacBook Pro 17'. Will a late 2011 logic board fit in the unibody of an early 2011? My logic board crashed and I'm looking to install a new one myself. I just need to see if I can upgrade mine at all. I want to purchase a logic board with a faster processor and hopefully not as prone to the GPU failure. Any recommendations?
You have the problem discussed in a number of discussions on this forum, most notably here -> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4766577?tstart=0.
Basically the GPU in the machine was poorly soldered onto the logic board. If you take the machine into an Apple Store, they will recommend a logic board replacement. This, however, will not permanently fix the problem. The only permanent fix is to have the GPU 'reballed' - this will cost about $160 and some services offer up to a year's warranty on their work.
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How can I differentiate logic board problem from display problem?
I have been given an iBook G3 900MHz (one of the models known to have logic board issues.) When I boot it up, I get the Apple chime, the hard drive spins, and the caps lock and num lock lights light up. Sometimes the display comes on, sometimes it does not. When it does, it flickers and goes off and on. I don't get lines or pixels or anything that I have seen described as being indicative of logic board failure. As far as I can tell, the computer works fine otherwise.
So, how can I be sure the problem is logic board-related and not an issue with the inverter board or the display cable?
I was also wondering, how much trouble - if any - is Apple giving people about replacing logic boards on certain models of iBook? This one should be eligible, as its serial number falls in the right range and it was bought in Oct. '03, which was within the past three years.
Thanks!there was a period when the display showed colored lines and pixels
Classic logic board symptoms.
The iBook freezes a lot
Mine did, too, with the logic board problem.
my gut tells me the problem is logic board-related.
My gut tells me your gut is probably right.
My question about repair coverage is this: According to Apple's support site, where I entered the serial number, this computer's "estimated purchase date" was October 3, 2003. But the owner no longer has any actual proof of purchase; no receipt, no packing slip, nothing. Is that needed to have Apple replace the logic board?
No. As I said, I bought mine, used, on eBay. I called in when I recognized the logic board symptoms (I had been working these boards for over a year at that point), they sent a box. It went out on Wednesday. They got it, fixed it, and shipped it back to me on Thursday, and it was back in my hands on Friday. (Practice makes perfect, I guess.)
Also, does Apple make their determination of age from when the computer was purchased or when it was built?
Purchase date only.
Or does that decision depend on if a person can produce a receipt or not?
Nope. The only paperwork I sent in with mine was the slip Apple sent in the box to indicate what all I was sending them (adapter, battery, extra RAM). What good would an eBay seller's receipt have done?
I probably have to go to my local service center (in NY that's a place called Tekserve, which is a great place to get a computer fixed, but the wait to be seen averages over an hour!)
Don't mess around with Tekserve. Call Apple at the number listed on the FAQ page:
http://www.apple.com/support/ibook/faq/
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View Solution.Thanks for the feedback. Today I installed an Enterprise version of Office 2007 I purchased a while back, but had not yet installed. Microsoft presented a few challenges, but they were quickly resolved. I then downloaded the appropriate conduit from Palm, and synced the 650 with the handheld overwriting the computer. Then used Active Destop to sync the 750. Satisfied I had moved as much info as possible, I called AT&T and had them move the phone number to the new Treo.
Bonus! When the guy at AT&T called me on the new phone to verify it, he said it sounded better than my landline.
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Thank you for visiting Apple Support Communities.
Here are some troubleshooting steps that I would recommend going through when experiencing this issue.
iTunes: Troubleshooting issues with third-party iTunes plug-ins
http://support.apple.com/en-us/ts3430
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Everything still prints fine (from Word, Adobe Reader, Windows Photo Viewer, etc.), except for IE 8! When I try to print a web page from IE, it prints only the page header, and otherwise the sheet is empty. This symptom occurs on both printers. (And of course this worked fine before the upgrade.)
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View Solution.(same poster)
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Fields in read-only mode for BP transaction in upgrade from 4.72 to ECC6.0
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All the customization settings are as per the note. And the Synchronization Control is also activated. But still the fields are disabled only.
I have checked the field settings also in Cross-Application-Components & Logistic-Genral.
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Error in Access VBA Application when upgrading from Acrobat 8.0 to 9.0
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'On Error Resume Next
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Dim AcroApp As CAcroApp
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Dim PageNumber, PageContent, i, j
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Dim StartPos, Length As Double
Dim PartSyntax() As String
Dim DocType() As String
Dim Content, strFileName, Temp As String
Dim k, Lengde As Integer
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Upgrade from R/3 4.6C to ECC 6.00 : languages
Hi,
We're trying to upgrade from SAP R/3 4.6C to ECC 6.00 under NT environment, having Oracle as database. During the preparation phase, we got the following error, and in our current SAP system R/3 we have 2 additional languages NL and FR (EN and DE are already in), can you please explain why this phase is blocking in this step, and if I continue I've to do a full language import, thanks in advance.
The following language(s) could not be updated yet:
- French for component EA-APPL
- French for component EA-DFPS
- French for component EA-FINSERV
- French for component EA-GLTRADE
- French for component EA-HR
- French for component EA-IPPE
- French for component EA-PS
- French for component EA-RETAIL
- French for component ECC-DIMP
- French for component ERECRUIT
- French for component FI-CA
- French for component FI-CAX
- French for component FINBASIS
- French for component INSURANCE
- French for component IS-CWM
- French for component IS-H
- French for component IS-M
- French for component IS-OIL
- French for component IS-PS-CA
- French for component IS-UT
- French for component LSOFE
- French for component PI_BASIS
- French for component SAP_ABA
- French for component SAP_AP
- French for component SAP_APPL
- French for component SAP_BASIS
- French for component SAP_BW
- French for component SAP_HR
- French for component SEM-BW
- French for component ST-PI
- Dutch for component EA-APPL
- Dutch for component EA-DFPS
- Dutch for component EA-FINSERV
- Dutch for component EA-GLTRADE
- Dutch for component EA-HR
- Dutch for component EA-IPPE
- Dutch for component EA-PS
- Dutch for component EA-RETAIL
- Dutch for component ECC-DIMP
- Dutch for component ERECRUIT
- Dutch for component FI-CA
- Dutch for component FI-CAX
- Dutch for component FINBASIS
- Dutch for component INSURANCE
- Dutch for component IS-CWM
- Dutch for component IS-H
- Dutch for component IS-M
- Dutch for component IS-OIL
- Dutch for component IS-PS-CA
- Dutch for component IS-UT
- Dutch for component LSOFE
- Dutch for component PI_BASIS
- Dutch for component SAP_ABA
- Dutch for component SAP_AP
- Dutch for component SAP_APPL
- Dutch for component SAP_BASIS
- Dutch for component SAP_BW
- Dutch for component SAP_HR
- Dutch for component SEM-BW
- Dutch for component ST-PI
Please mount another Language Disk for these language(s).
If you do not have further Language Disk(s), you may
continue, but the languages mentioned above will be lost
after the upgrade. A full language import has to be
performed after the upgrade to reinstall the language(s).
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I've introduce the following information:
> MOUNT POINT 07 = S:\export\Data\CDLAN2
> MOUNT POINT 01 = S:\export\Data\KN_WINDOWS_X86_64_AUPG
> MOUNT POINT 06 = S:\export\Data\CDLAN1
> MOUNT POINT 05 = S:\export\Data\CD3
> MOUNT POINT 03 = S:\export\Data\CD1
> MOUNT POINT 08 = S:\export\Data\UMN_WINDOWS_X86_64
> MOUNT POINT 02 = S:\export\Data\KN_WINDOWS_X86_64
> MOUNT POINT 04 = S:\export\Data\CD2
And in mount point 06/07 we have the languages.
The content of the trace file is:
here's the complete trace:
2007/07/05 16:35:01 *****************************
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Checking directories ...
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Searching for Data Carrier labeled AOXUPGR
Adding path: S:\export\Data\KN_WINDOWS_X86_64_AUPG
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\KN_WINDOWS_X86_64_AUPG ... no matching label
Adding path: S:\export\Data\KN_WINDOWS_X86_64
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\KN_WINDOWS_X86_64 ... no matching label
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD1
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Resolving directory structure below S:\export\Data\CD1
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD1\UPG1
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD1\UPG2
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD1\UPG3
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD1\UPG4
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD1\UPG5
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD1\UPG6
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Directory structure below S:\export\Data\CD1 resolved
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD1 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD1\UPG1 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD1\UPG2 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD1\UPG3 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD1\UPG4 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD1\UPG5 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD1\UPG6 ... no matching label
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD2
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Resolving directory structure below S:\export\Data\CD2
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD2\UPG7
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD2\UPG8
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD2\UPG9
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD2\UPG10
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD2\UPG11
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD2\UPG12
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Directory structure below S:\export\Data\CD2 resolved
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD2 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD2\UPG7 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD2\UPG8 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD2\UPG9 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD2\UPG10 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD2\UPG11 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD2\UPG12 ... no matching label
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD3
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Resolving directory structure below S:\export\Data\CD3
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD3\UPG13
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD3\UPG14
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD3\UPG15
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CD3\UPG16
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Directory structure below S:\export\Data\CD3 resolved
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD3 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD3\UPG13 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD3\UPG14 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD3\UPG15 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CD3\UPG16 ... no matching label
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CDLAN1
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Resolving directory structure below S:\export\Data\CDLAN1
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CDLAN1\LANG1
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CDLAN1\LANG2
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CDLAN1\LANG3
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CDLAN1\LANG4
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Directory structure below S:\export\Data\CDLAN1 resolved
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CDLAN1 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CDLAN1\LANG1 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CDLAN1\LANG2 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CDLAN1\LANG3 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CDLAN1\LANG4 ... no matching label
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CDLAN2
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Resolving directory structure below S:\export\Data\CDLAN2
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CDLAN2\LANG5
Adding path: S:\export\Data\CDLAN2\LANG6
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Directory structure below S:\export\Data\CDLAN2 resolved
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CDLAN2 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CDLAN2\LANG5 ... no matching label
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\CDLAN2\LANG6 ... no matching label
Adding path: S:\export\Data\UMN_WINDOWS_X86_64
2007/07/05 16:35:01 Working on S:\export\Data\UMN_WINDOWS_X86_64 ... no matching label
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Slow table creation after upgrade from 10.2.0.3 to 11.2.0.1 using DBUA
I've recently completed a database upgrade from 10.2.0.3 to 11.2.0.1 using the DBUA.
I've since encountered a slowdown when running a script which drops and recreates a series of ~250 tables. The script normally runs in around 19 seconds. After the upgrade, the script requires ~2 minutes to run.
By chance has anyone encountered something similar?
The problem may be related to the behavior of an "after CREATE on schema" trigger which grants select privileges to a role through the use of a dbms_job call; between 10g and the database that was upgraded from 10G to 11g. Currently researching this angle.
I will be using the following table creation DDL for this abbreviated test case:
create table ALLIANCE (
ALLIANCEID NUMBER(10) not null,
NAME VARCHAR2(40) not null,
CREATION_DATE DATE,
constraint PK_ALLIANCE primary key (ALLIANCEID)
using index
tablespace LIVE_INDEX
tablespace LIVE_DATA;When calling the above DDL, an "after CREATE on schema" trigger is fired which schedules a job to immediately run to grant select privilege to a role for the table which was just created:
create or replace
trigger select_grant
after CREATE on schema
declare
l_str varchar2(255);
l_job number;
begin
if ( ora_dict_obj_type = 'TABLE' ) then
l_str := 'execute immediate "grant select on ' ||
ora_dict_obj_name ||
' to select_role";';
dbms_job.submit( l_job, replace(l_str,'"','''') );
end if;
end;
{code}
Below I've included data on two separate test runs. The first is on the upgraded database and includes optimizer parameters and an abbreviated TKPROF. I've also, included the offending sys generate SQL which is not issued when the same test is run on a 10g environment that has been set up with a similar test case. The 10g test run's TKPROF is also included below.
The version of the database is 11.2.0.1.
These are the parameters relevant to the optimizer for the test run on the upgraded 11g SID:
{code}
SQL> show parameter optimizer
NAME TYPE VALUE
optimizer_capture_sql_plan_baselines boolean FALSE
optimizer_dynamic_sampling integer 2
optimizer_features_enable string 11.2.0.1
optimizer_index_caching integer 0
optimizer_index_cost_adj integer 100
optimizer_mode string ALL_ROWS
optimizer_secure_view_merging boolean TRUE
optimizer_use_invisible_indexes boolean FALSE
optimizer_use_pending_statistics boolean FALSE
optimizer_use_sql_plan_baselines boolean TRUE
SQL> show parameter db_file_multi
NAME TYPE VALUE
db_file_multiblock_read_count integer 8
SQL> show parameter db_block_size
NAME TYPE VALUE
db_block_size integer 8192
SQL> show parameter cursor_sharing
NAME TYPE VALUE
cursor_sharing string EXACT
SQL> column sname format a20
SQL> column pname format a20
SQL> column pval2 format a20
SQL> select sname, pname, pval1, pval2 from sys.aux_stats$;
SNAME PNAME PVAL1 PVAL2
SYSSTATS_INFO STATUS COMPLETED
SYSSTATS_INFO DSTART 03-11-2010 16:33
SYSSTATS_INFO DSTOP 03-11-2010 17:03
SYSSTATS_INFO FLAGS 0
SYSSTATS_MAIN CPUSPEEDNW 713.978495
SYSSTATS_MAIN IOSEEKTIM 10
SYSSTATS_MAIN IOTFRSPEED 4096
SYSSTATS_MAIN SREADTIM 1565.746
SYSSTATS_MAIN MREADTIM
SYSSTATS_MAIN CPUSPEED 2310
SYSSTATS_MAIN MBRC
SYSSTATS_MAIN MAXTHR
SYSSTATS_MAIN SLAVETHR
13 rows selected.
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Output from TKPROF on the 11g SID:
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create table ALLIANCE (
ALLIANCEID NUMBER(10) not null,
NAME VARCHAR2(40) not null,
CREATION_DATE DATE,
constraint PK_ALLIANCE primary key (ALLIANCEID)
using index
tablespace LIVE_INDEX
tablespace LIVE_DATA
call count cpu elapsed disk query current rows
Parse 1 0.00 0.00 0 0 0 0
Execute 1 0.00 0.00 0 0 4 0
Fetch 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 0 0
total 2 0.00 0.00 0 0 4 0
Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Optimizer mode: ALL_ROWS
Parsing user id: 324
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... large section omitted ...
Here is the performance hit portion of the TKPROF on the 11g SID:
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SQL ID: fsbqktj5vw6n9
Plan Hash: 1443566277
select next_run_date, obj#, run_job, sch_job
from
(select decode(bitand(a.flags, 16384), 0, a.next_run_date,
a.last_enabled_time) next_run_date, a.obj# obj#,
decode(bitand(a.flags, 16384), 0, 0, 1) run_job, a.sch_job sch_job from
(select p.obj# obj#, p.flags flags, p.next_run_date next_run_date,
p.job_status job_status, p.class_oid class_oid, p.last_enabled_time
last_enabled_time, p.instance_id instance_id, 1 sch_job from
sys.scheduler$_job p where bitand(p.job_status, 3) = 1 and
((bitand(p.flags, 134217728 + 268435456) = 0) or
(bitand(p.job_status, 1024) <> 0)) and bitand(p.flags, 4096) = 0 and
p.instance_id is NULL and (p.class_oid is null or (p.class_oid is
not null and p.class_oid in (select b.obj# from sys.scheduler$_class b
where b.affinity is null))) UNION ALL select
q.obj#, q.flags, q.next_run_date, q.job_status, q.class_oid,
q.last_enabled_time, q.instance_id, 1 from sys.scheduler$_lightweight_job
q where bitand(q.job_status, 3) = 1 and ((bitand(q.flags, 134217728 +
268435456) = 0) or (bitand(q.job_status, 1024) <> 0)) and
bitand(q.flags, 4096) = 0 and q.instance_id is NULL and (q.class_oid
is null or (q.class_oid is not null and q.class_oid in (select
c.obj# from sys.scheduler$_class c where
c.affinity is null))) UNION ALL select j.job, 0,
from_tz(cast(j.next_date as timestamp), to_char(systimestamp,'TZH:TZM')
), 1, NULL, from_tz(cast(j.next_date as timestamp),
to_char(systimestamp,'TZH:TZM')), NULL, 0 from sys.job$ j where
(j.field1 is null or j.field1 = 0) and j.this_date is null) a order by
1) where rownum = 1
call count cpu elapsed disk query current rows
Parse 1 0.00 0.00 0 0 0 0
Execute 1 0.00 0.00 0 0 0 0
Fetch 1 0.47 0.47 0 9384 0 1
total 3 0.48 0.48 0 9384 0 1
Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Optimizer mode: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: SYS (recursive depth: 1)
Rows Row Source Operation
1 COUNT STOPKEY (cr=9384 pr=0 pw=0 time=0 us)
1 VIEW (cr=9384 pr=0 pw=0 time=0 us cost=5344 size=6615380 card=194570)
1 SORT ORDER BY STOPKEY (cr=9384 pr=0 pw=0 time=0 us cost=5344 size=11479630 card=194570)
194790 VIEW (cr=9384 pr=0 pw=0 time=537269 us cost=2563 size=11479630 card=194570)
194790 UNION-ALL (cr=9384 pr=0 pw=0 time=439235 us)
231 FILTER (cr=68 pr=0 pw=0 time=920 us)
231 TABLE ACCESS FULL SCHEDULER$_JOB (cr=66 pr=0 pw=0 time=690 us cost=19 size=13157 card=223)
1 TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID SCHEDULER$_CLASS (cr=2 pr=0 pw=0 time=0 us cost=1 size=40 card=1)
1 INDEX UNIQUE SCAN SCHEDULER$_CLASS_PK (cr=1 pr=0 pw=0 time=0 us cost=0 size=0 card=1)(object id 5056)
0 FILTER (cr=3 pr=0 pw=0 time=0 us)
0 TABLE ACCESS FULL SCHEDULER$_LIGHTWEIGHT_JOB (cr=3 pr=0 pw=0 time=0 us cost=2 size=95 card=1)
0 TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID SCHEDULER$_CLASS (cr=0 pr=0 pw=0 time=0 us cost=1 size=40 card=1)
0 INDEX UNIQUE SCAN SCHEDULER$_CLASS_PK (cr=0 pr=0 pw=0 time=0 us cost=0 size=0 card=1)(object id 5056)
194559 TABLE ACCESS FULL JOB$ (cr=9313 pr=0 pw=0 time=167294 us cost=2542 size=2529254 card=194558)
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and the totals at the end of the TKPROF on the 11g SID:
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OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
call count cpu elapsed disk query current rows
Parse 1 0.00 0.00 0 0 0 0
Execute 2 0.00 0.00 0 0 4 0
Fetch 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 0 0
total 3 0.00 0.00 0 0 4 0
Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Misses in library cache during execute: 1
OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
call count cpu elapsed disk query current rows
Parse 70 0.00 0.00 0 0 0 0
Execute 85 0.01 0.01 0 62 208 37
Fetch 49 0.48 0.49 0 9490 0 35
total 204 0.51 0.51 0 9552 208 72
Misses in library cache during parse: 5
Misses in library cache during execute: 3
35 user SQL statements in session.
53 internal SQL statements in session.
88 SQL statements in session.
Trace file: 11gSID_ora_17721.trc
Trace file compatibility: 11.1.0.7
Sort options: default
1 session in tracefile.
35 user SQL statements in trace file.
53 internal SQL statements in trace file.
88 SQL statements in trace file.
51 unique SQL statements in trace file.
1590 lines in trace file.
18 elapsed seconds in trace file.
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The version of the database is 10.2.0.3.0.
These are the parameters relevant to the optimizer for the test run on the 10g SID:
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SQL> show parameter optimizer
NAME TYPE VALUE
optimizer_dynamic_sampling integer 2
optimizer_features_enable string 10.2.0.3
optimizer_index_caching integer 0
optimizer_index_cost_adj integer 100
optimizer_mode string ALL_ROWS
optimizer_secure_view_merging boolean TRUE
SQL> show parameter db_file_multi
NAME TYPE VALUE
db_file_multiblock_read_count integer 8
SQL> show parameter db_block_size
NAME TYPE VALUE
db_block_size integer 8192
SQL> show parameter cursor_sharing
NAME TYPE VALUE
cursor_sharing string EXACT
SQL> column sname format a20
SQL> column pname format a20
SQL> column pval2 format a20
SQL> select sname, pname, pval1, pval2 from sys.aux_stats$;
SNAME PNAME PVAL1 PVAL2
SYSSTATS_INFO STATUS COMPLETED
SYSSTATS_INFO DSTART 09-24-2007 11:09
SYSSTATS_INFO DSTOP 09-24-2007 11:09
SYSSTATS_INFO FLAGS 1
SYSSTATS_MAIN CPUSPEEDNW 2110.16949
SYSSTATS_MAIN IOSEEKTIM 10
SYSSTATS_MAIN IOTFRSPEED 4096
SYSSTATS_MAIN SREADTIM
SYSSTATS_MAIN MREADTIM
SYSSTATS_MAIN CPUSPEED
SYSSTATS_MAIN MBRC
SYSSTATS_MAIN MAXTHR
SYSSTATS_MAIN SLAVETHR
13 rows selected.
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Now for the TKPROF of a mirrored test environment running on a 10G SID:
{code}
create table ALLIANCE (
ALLIANCEID NUMBER(10) not null,
NAME VARCHAR2(40) not null,
CREATION_DATE DATE,
constraint PK_ALLIANCE primary key (ALLIANCEID)
using index
tablespace LIVE_INDEX
tablespace LIVE_DATA
call count cpu elapsed disk query current rows
Parse 1 0.00 0.00 0 0 0 0
Execute 1 0.00 0.01 0 2 16 0
Fetch 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 0 0
total 2 0.01 0.01 0 2 16 0
Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Optimizer mode: ALL_ROWS
Parsing user id: 113
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... large section omitted ...
Totals for the TKPROF on the 10g SID:
{code}
OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
call count cpu elapsed disk query current rows
Parse 1 0.00 0.02 0 0 0 0
Execute 1 0.00 0.00 0 2 16 0
Fetch 0 0.00 0.00 0 0 0 0
total 2 0.00 0.02 0 2 16 0
Misses in library cache during parse: 1
OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
call count cpu elapsed disk query current rows
Parse 65 0.01 0.01 0 1 32 0
Execute 84 0.04 0.09 20 90 272 35
Fetch 88 0.00 0.10 30 281 0 64
total 237 0.07 0.21 50 372 304 99
Misses in library cache during parse: 38
Misses in library cache during execute: 32
10 user SQL statements in session.
76 internal SQL statements in session.
86 SQL statements in session.
Trace file: 10gSID_ora_32003.trc
Trace file compatibility: 10.01.00
Sort options: default
1 session in tracefile.
10 user SQL statements in trace file.
76 internal SQL statements in trace file.
86 SQL statements in trace file.
43 unique SQL statements in trace file.
949 lines in trace file.
0 elapsed seconds in trace file.
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Edited by: user8598842 on Mar 11, 2010 5:08 PMSo while this certainly isn't the most elegant of solutions, and most assuredly isn't in the realm of supported by Oracle...
I've used the DBMS_IJOB.DROP_USER_JOBS('username'); package to remove the 194558 orphaned job entries from the job$ table. Don't ask, I've no clue how they all got there; but I've prepared some evil looks to unleash upon certain developers tomorrow morning.
Not being able to reorganize the JOB$ table to free the now wasted ~67MB of space I've opted to create a new index on the JOB$ table to sidestep the full table scan.
CREATE INDEX SYS.JOB_F1_THIS_NEXT ON SYS.JOB$ (FIELD1, THIS_DATE, NEXT_DATE) TABLESPACE SYSTEM;The next option would be to try to find a way to grant the select privilege to the role without using the aforementioned "after CREATE on schema" trigger and dbms_job call. This method was adopted to cover situations in which a developer manually added a table directly to the database rather than using the provided scripts to recreate their test environment.
I assume that the following quote from the 11gR2 documentation is mistaken, and there is no such beast as "create or replace table" in 11g:
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E11882_01/server.112/e10592/statements_9003.htm#i2061306
"Dropping a table invalidates dependent objects and removes object privileges on the table. If you want to re-create the table, then you must regrant object privileges on the table, re-create the indexes, integrity constraints, and triggers for the table, and respecify its storage parameters. Truncating and replacing have none of these effects. Therefore, removing rows with the TRUNCATE statement or replacing the table with a *CREATE OR REPLACE TABLE* statement can be more efficient than dropping and re-creating a table."
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