Use old AiportExtreme as relay to extend WIFI from Time Capsule

Hi
I have an 24' 3.06 iMac running on Leopard and it is WIFI networked through a brand new dual band Time Capsule 1TB (TC). The setting up worked fine using the updated AriPort Utilities (APU) coming with the time capsule.
I also have an Old iMac 17' which is for the time being ethernet networked to the TC.
I would like now to move my old mac to another room. Unfortunately it has no Airport card so I would like to use my old UFO shaped Base Station AirPort Extreme (BSAPE), that I was using happily last week as my WIFI hub. My plan is to have it as a relay station to pick up the network from the TC, extend the signal to the other side of the house for my iPod and connect the Old G4 to it via ethernet connection. The (BSAPE) got reset using a pen at the back, and the APU has recognised it as a base station with a six didgit alphanumeriacl code! Ther is a orange light in fornt of the BSAPE icon. So far so good.
I tried then to set it up as a relay, first AU asked me to swap device. I did so and tried to reset the base station. Once all done the TC started blinking was blinking. What did go wrong? Is there a guide I could use to get it working. The TC is in bridge mode.
Thank you for your help
N

Welcome to the discussions!
You will need to configure both the Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme to participate in a WDS (Wireless Distribution System). The Time Capsule will be configured as a base station and the AirPort Extreme will be configured as a remote, not a relay. A relay is a device located between a base station and a remote. So, you would need a minimum of 3 devices in a WDS to configure a relay.
There is a step by step guide on pages 42-43 in the Airport Networks Guide for configuring a WDS.

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You may be able to simply change some settings on the AX, or if that is not possible, you'll need to hold the reset button in on the device until you see the amber light begin to flash more quickly.
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